donnyenglish said:

Anyway, all happened in a very strange manner and timing......

Am I the only one who can not exclude that all this could be some kind of marketing strategy planned by some "genius" at the Estate and with Ian collaboration?!?!?

Just a thought, nothing more.

BoraBora said:

Anyway, all happened in a very strange manner and timing......

Am I the only one who can not exclude that all this could be some kind of marketing strategy planned by some "genius" at the Estate and with Ian collaboration?!?!?

Just a thought, nothing more.

stfu

[Edited 4/20/17 6:19am]

Telecaster5 said:

Ingela said:

You know left to their own devices the "estate" would have botched and butchered these tracks and god knows if they would have been released at all. Anyone here have faith in "the estate"? I would have been happier if everything had been donated to he state of Minnesota for preservation.

Yes, I do. I may be naive, but I don't doubt for a minute that "they" want the music in the fans' hands. How to go about that in a way which not only honors the music and Prince, but also generates income so the legacy can continue is far more complicated and nuanced than the average Orger seems to allow for. Impatient and petulant- instant gratification. This seems to be the M.O. of many here. I think that some people are being absolutely ridiculous in expecting so much in so little time. And yes, a year is very little time when you consider the tangled web that Prince left behind in regards to his music. This is a multi-faceted issue which demands time and care.

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Ingela said:

clairew1975 said:

The estate have filed a lawsuit saying it's an unauthorised release. The video of a FAKE Prince, I mean REALLY!! This was planned and it pisses me off! No integrity whatsoever! This would never have been allowed if Prince was alive, he'd have SHUT IT DOWN!

Get over yourselff

Do your research and then go and take several seats!

PurpleMedley122 said:

Nice to see that the same fans who screamed exploitation everytime a Prince associate opened their mouth are now giving money to and praising a guy who is doing just that (illegal release, came out 4 days before 1 year anniversary, "souped up" tracks, fake Prince in video, charging money for bootleg). Hypocritical.

It's unbelievable isn't it.....SMH....

MrNelson7 said:

rogifan said:

MrNelson7 said:

Yes, I do. I may be naive, but I don't doubt for a minute that "they" want the music in the fans' hands. How to go about that in a way which not only honors the music and Prince, but also generates income so the legacy can continue is far more complicated and nuanced than the average Orger seems to allow for. Impatient and petulant- instant gratification. This seems to be the M.O. of many here. I think that most people are being absolutely ridiculous in expecting so much in so little time. And yes, a year is very little time when you consider the tangled web that Prince left behind in regards to his music. This is a multi-faceted issue which demands time and care.

A voice of reason. Not everyone is just out to trash his legacy to enrich themselves. There are lots of people who care about him not just "fams".

Yes!

The legalities of this whole situation are far-reaching. And I'm not talking about the in-fighting which causes delays, or the questionable actions of some of the representatives. I'm not talking about the people involved. I'm talking about the actual LAW. It's complicated and complex.

injuredpinky said:

Neversin said:

Sorry, but these "enhanced"/"finished without Prince" versions are just that...
Find it and download this thing for free and don't put any money in the pockets of this "engineer"...

Neversin.

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Who the fuck cares. Another way to approach it would be to make sure the "enginner" makes a LOT of money off this. Might inspire others to put out unreleased material from their collections as well. I'd rather that situation than the current bunch of nesting chickens sitting on their collections.

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And what ever happened to the "sorry-big-chick-Wally" release from Eye?

Talk about a dumbfuck approach to this problem...
If fucking idiot people give this guy money for his enhanced garbage then other fucking idiots with unreleased material will also try to cash in by "enhancing" those recordings and scam fans...
You probably love having cunt products like Justin Bieber, Bruno Mars, some pop rappers or any of these fucking pieces of shit brought in to "enhance" unreleased recordings, because giving a shitload of money to these moochers is the sure fire way to have that happen...

Neversin.

rogifan said:

MrNelson7 said:

Yes, I do. I may be naive, but I don't doubt for a minute that "they" want the music in the fans' hands. How to go about that in a way which not only honors the music and Prince, but also generates income so the legacy can continue is far more complicated and nuanced than the average Orger seems to allow for. Impatient and petulant- instant gratification. This seems to be the M.O. of many here. I think that most people are being absolutely ridiculous in expecting so much in so little time. And yes, a year is very little time when you consider the tangled web that Prince left behind in regards to his music. This is a multi-faceted issue which demands time and care.

A voice of reason. Not everyone is just out to trash his legacy to enrich themselves. There are lots of people who care about him not just "fams".

Well said. A year is nothing when it's as complex as Prince's estate. That's what happens when you don't leave a will.

Let's hope the Estate don't feel pressured by the impatient ones and take their time and do it properly. I have a feeling though that there'll always be someone unhappy no matter what they do (sigh).

Uhh.. WOW. This EP is outstanding. It is from the same cloth as other recent era releases, but in my estimation is a lot better.

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I think the difference is the additional production/engineering done by someone other than Prince. I'm one of those people that thinks he would have / could have benefited from other collaborators in the studio.

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Oh man.. Touch Me is brilliant. This is the most interesting & progressive music I've heard from Prince in ages, maybe since ever. The medly type flow with I Am / Touch Me etc. is like a dream come true. It sounds like Prince without constraints of commercialism, image or label pressure.. exactly the kind of stuff I had hoped would come out of the vault.. but I had started to doubt there was anything of interest that had not been previously leaked.

.

Notwithstanding any legal concerns with this release, the music is hugely uplifting. So amazing to hear his voice paired with such interesting music again!

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I'm just glad someone had the balls to put this out...

I understand the basics of the legal issues going on with the Estate and the various music industry players, but for April 21st (tomorrow) to arrive and not DO SOMETHING is just a huge wasted opportunity. Especially since it's been said that he had a few new "current" albums already finished.

Even just to have ONE new song available tomorrow from the Estate would've been enough . . . but, nothing.

So to get this Deliverance package - however messed up it is legally - is a very nice surprise.

Not everyone can make it to Paisley Park for the Celebration or pay that kind of money, but we can all find a few bucks for something new.

Se7en said:

I understand the basics of the legal issues going on with the Estate and the various music industry players, but for April 21st (tomorrow) to arrive and not DO SOMETHING is just a huge wasted opportunity. Especially since it's been said that he had a few new "current" albums already finished.

Even just to have ONE new song available tomorrow from the Estate would've been enough . . . but, nothing.

So to get this Deliverance package - however messed up it is legally - is a very nice surprise.

Not everyone can make it to Paisley Park for the Celebration or pay that kind of money, but we can all find a few bucks for something new.

But do you realize that they may not legally be able to release anything new? Wasted opportunity, yes. But perhaps the opportunity isn't actually there.

Se7en said:

I understand the basics of the legal issues going on with the Estate and the various music industry players, but for April 21st (tomorrow) to arrive and not DO SOMETHING is just a huge wasted opportunity. Especially since it's been said that he had a few new "current" albums already finished.

Even just to have ONE new song available tomorrow from the Estate would've been enough . . . but, nothing.

So to get this Deliverance package - however messed up it is legally - is a very nice surprise.

Not everyone can make it to Paisley Park for the Celebration or pay that kind of money, but we can all find a few bucks for something new.

Well, it's not tomorrow yet. We can't complain about them doing nothing for a day which hasn't happened yet.

That said, I'm not expecting anything tomorrow.

thx185 said:

Uhh.. WOW. This EP is outstanding. It is from the same cloth as other recent era releases, but in my estimation is a lot better.

.

I think the difference is the additional production/engineering done by someone other than Prince. I'm one of those people that thinks he would have / could have benefited from other collaborators in the studio.

.

Oh man.. Touch Me is brilliant. This is the most interesting & progressive music I've heard from Prince in ages, maybe since ever. The medly type flow with I Am / Touch Me etc. is like a dream come true. It sounds like Prince without constraints of commercialism, image or label pressure.. exactly the kind of stuff I had hoped would come out of the vault.. but I had started to doubt there was anything of interest that had not been previously leaked.

.

Notwithstanding any legal concerns with this release, the music is hugely uplifting. So amazing to hear his voice paired with such interesting music again!

[Edited 4/20/17 8:11am]

I have to agree it is really good and deserved to be heard and praised. it puts Prince in a good light. Deliverance is a great tune to come out during this week!! My personal favorite though is "No One Else". Stunning vocal effects.

alandail said:

Unsurprisingly, it has dissapeared from the iTunes store.

i preordered got the single .... so i knew that could happen

TheEnglishGent said:

Se7en said:

I understand the basics of the legal issues going on with the Estate and the various music industry players, but for April 21st (tomorrow) to arrive and not DO SOMETHING is just a huge wasted opportunity. Especially since it's been said that he had a few new "current" albums already finished.

Even just to have ONE new song available tomorrow from the Estate would've been enough . . . but, nothing.

So to get this Deliverance package - however messed up it is legally - is a very nice surprise.

Not everyone can make it to Paisley Park for the Celebration or pay that kind of money, but we can all find a few bucks for something new.

Well, it's not tomorrow yet. We can't complain about them doing nothing for a day which hasn't happened yet.

That said, I'm not expecting anything tomorrow.

That is true! If Beyoncé can drop whole albums with no notice, then Prince can too!

I don't expect anything either, but I'll be listening to Deliverance. Too bad it's only 16 minutes long, but it's a good 16 minutes.

Now if I could just hear Black is the New Black...

getxxxx said:

alandail said:

Unsurprisingly, it has dissapeared from the iTunes store.

i preordered got the single .... so i knew that could happen

Should be able to get a refund.

i've got a playlist on my ipod entitled '3rdeyegirl'. i created it, i guess, around the time that whole project got started. it's got 60 tracks on it. granted, a few of them are old stuff that leaked during that time; but you know what the rest are? just random shit that PRINCE GAVE US...livestreams, remixes, rehearsals...shit that never saw an official release. you think he didn't know all that stuff would end up on people's ipods/phones?

since he's gone, we've had none of that...til this. re-worked, illegal...whatever. these tracks are great and i thank ian boxill for giving to the fans in the SAME SPIRIT THAT PRINCE GAVE. who cares if he makes a little dough...

Telecaster5 said:

No one else

Light enters darkness
No shame no regrets
You give yourself to the unknown
That's when you forget
Drowning in a sea of illusion
The reason the water is wet
This is the real reason
There's only me in you
There's only you in me
There's only me in you
There's only you in me

Sunrise, sunset
Tonight be my master, I'll be your pet
For in the unknown we're both equal
We're both each others SWEAT
But for now remember, I love you baby
I really do
There's no one else for me but you
There's no one else for me
There's no one else for me
There's no one else
There's no one else but me
There's no one else but me
There's no one else but me
There's no one else but me
No one else but you

Now I can touch
Now I can feel
But who will feel me
Know that I'm real
Who will touch me
Who will touch me
Who will?

Prince shall remain unheard.

HerecomethePurpleYoda said:

Prince shall remain unheard.

the revolution won't be televised

TheEnglishGent said:

getxxxx said:

i preordered got the single .... so i knew that could happen

Should be able to get a refund.

you only got the title track with pre order not the rest of the EP. so i was only charged for the single. for those that ordered before it was put on hold.

getxxxx said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Should be able to get a refund.

you only got the title track with pre order not the rest of the EP. so i was only charged for the single. for those that ordered before it was put on hold.

Ah, so you got what you paid for. Fair enough.