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laytonian said:

Neal Karlen was Prince's phone friend for years and is writing a book. He knows a lot. . As for the rest of the show: to many factual errors.

How ironic that a few weeks before Prince's death, he dogged Prince in the press to keep from being the "Prince guy", now in his death, he's racing to position himself to be the authority on Prince's life.

Is this show all gloom and doom? I saw a couple seconds of a preview of it and Alan basically stated that Prince had serious issues and that if there were artistic disagreements, Prince took it as a betrayal. It sounds like a one-dimensional version of Prince...all tragic and brooding. No humor, or inspiration or maturing.

I think perhaps they should have just televised the interviews from that wonderful Vanity Fair article.

I really wish they would approach someone other than Alan every once in a while. He had other managers who had experiences with Prince that were a bit more warm. Plus, there is always a lack of women...women were often who Prince was closer to. Where is Susan Rogers? Prince did have issues..and I think probably Leeds is right in say that Prince had abandonment issues but he still evolved and changed through the years even if the issues eventually caught up with him.

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rdhull said:

The funny thing is that fans expect shows etc about Prince to have the same quality as Princes own product..his own production values. lol we need to get over that.

Not about production vaules more about being total bullshit. The whole thing was despressing and making some ridculous assumptions. Paisley Park was not a dugeon he could not escape from, I do not believe he was miserable everday of his life, no one forced him to play music 24 hours a day, maybe he actually liked working, and could they stop being saclious and tell the story of his music and carreer.

Not much too ask. Someone will do a decent documentary about him maybe with people who knew him his whole life and not the bottom feeders that were interviewed on this show.

I really have no words for Pepe Willie, Owen, Alan and Eric. When was the last time Prince gave these guys the time of day? Eric said he did not even care for Prince's music but he can sit his down to talk to the Reelz network?

A lot of people get mad at Jill Jones or even Charles Smith for putting people on blast but some of these people need to be called out.

Old saying if you have nothing nice to say keep your mouth closed.

bashraka said:

laytonian said:

Neal Karlen was Prince's phone friend for years and is writing a book. He knows a lot. . As for the rest of the show: to many factual errors.

How ironic that a few weeks before Prince's death, he dogged Prince in the press to keep from being the "Prince guy", now in his death, he's racing to position himself to be the authority on Prince's life.

Well asshole is now writing a book and I guess he is too dumb too realize his interviews prior to Prince' s death will come back to haunt his ass and make him look like the greedy asshole he is.

He already loss everything in a fire. I hope the ghost of Prince lit the damm match (LOL)

http://www.startribune.com/after-losing-everything-in-fire-minneapolis-writer-gets-35-000-crowdfunded-gift/419726213/

purplerabbithole said:

Is this show all gloom and doom? I saw a couple seconds of a preview of it and Alan basically stated that Prince had serious issues and that if there were artistic disagreements, Prince took it as a betrayal. It sounds like a one-dimensional version of Prince...all tragic and brooding. No humor, or inspiration or maturing.

I think perhaps they should have just televised the interviews from that wonderful Vanity Fair article.

I really wish they would approach someone other than Alan every once in a while. He had other managers who had experiences with Prince that were a bit more warm. Plus, there is always a lack of women...women were often who Prince was closer to. Where is Susan Rogers? Prince did have issues..and I think probably Leeds is right in say that Prince had abandonment issues but he still evolved and changed through the years even if the issues eventually caught up with him.

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They are not going to talk anyone with anything positive to say. They the media have a narrative and they do not care about the facts. Alan interactions with Prince are 20 years out people grow and change and according to many people who knew he changed in a positive manner.

Alan talks about about abandonment issues and how Prince expected blind loyaty but if someone is fucking paying you why would they not expect loyalty? I honestly think some of these people never worked in a corporate enviroment because you are expected to be loyal and in some cases you have to sign contracts that restrict you from going to a competitor.

I think if Prince was not stopping people from leaving due to some clauses in their contracts they got off lucky. They are just too clueless to know it.

Remember Alan left Prince to work for WB at a time when Prince was figthing with WB. Alan did not stay at WB for long and what has he done since? Return to being a tour manager. While Prince continued to employ people for almost another 30 years after Alan left the Prince camp.

He knows he fucked up and he is just bitter.

Something I wanted to add...

What Nancy Sinatra once said..

"those who know don't say; those who say often don't know"

All these folks might have valid points (probably do) and I do think Prince's life was often sad and he probably did suffer from depression, too many yes men (which ones constitute as which and to what degree, its hard to say), workaholic tendencies, loneliness, and abandonment issues.. But he was more than that. He was more than just one era or the bleakest parts of his nature. He had joy, he had warm encounters and moments of bonding, kindness, humor, inspiration and intimacy. Did his neurosis and issues often eventually taint relationships etc? Yep, but to some degree or another, all people have these problems. His issues were just bigger and more debilating at times.

HOwever, Real friends would insist that a show like this interview a large and varying number of sources. A real friend would insist on justice for Prince and a full understanding of the end of his days before making money off psycho-analysing a guy they knew at a specific (and often short) point in his life.

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It's just funny the more of these Reelz they do, the fewer people that actually knew Prince are on them.

I hope they enjoy the money they are getting to over-simplify Prince. Leeds needs to acknowledge that he didn't know Prince after a certain point. He has one piece of the elaborate puzzle that was prince. He doesn't have the full picture necessarily. We don't either, but we sure as hell are not going to get it from a dude who worked for Prince 30 years ago and who Prince barely kept in contact with after that.

Does this candid photo look like a man with no ability to connect with others..Being unable to sustain a relationship or having moments or even whole periods of social anxiety,shyness, or world weariness does not mean he didn't work on improving his connections with other? He compartmentalized his life and controlled it strongly, but that doesn't mean he didn't find ways to bond...his way was music, humor, faith, geeky things like movies and pop culture. SHould we be defined by the obstacles we don't entirely overcome or by what we are able to achieve despite our obstacles?

morningsong said:

It's just funny the more of these Reelz they do, the fewer people that actually knew Prince are on them.

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You are nice I hope Alan chokes on every penny he makes and I feel sorry for Chris Rock I bet the minute he is no longer working for Chris he will dime him out to the media as well.

Why would anyone hire someone who cannot keep their mouth closed and who keeps trying to put the spotlight on themselves.

purplerabbithole said:

I hope they enjoy the money they are getting to over-simplify Prince. Leeds needs to acknowledge that he didn't know Prince after a certain point. He has one piece of the elaborate puzzle that was prince. He doesn't have the full picture necessarily. We don't either, but we sure as hell are not going to get it from a dude who worked for Prince 30 years ago and who Prince barely kept in contact with after that.

Does this candid photo look like a man with no ability to connect with others..Being unable to sustain a relationship or having moments or even whole periods of social anxiety,shyness, or world weariness does not mean he didn't work on improving his connections with other? He compartmentalized his life and controlled it strongly, but that doesn't mean he didn't find ways to bond...his way was music, humor, faith, geeky things like movies and pop culture. SHould we be defined by the obstacles we don't entirely overcome or by what we are able to achieve despite our obstacles?

morningsong said:

It's just funny the more of these Reelz they do, the fewer people that actually knew Prince are on them.

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laurarichardson said:

kmama07 said:

laurarichardson said:

You are nice I hope Alan chokes on every penny he makes and I feel sorry for Chris Rock I bet the minute he is no longer working for Chris he will dime him out to the media as well.

Why would anyone hire someone who cannot keep their mouth closed and who keeps trying to put the spotlight on themselves.

What's the Chris Rock connection you are speaking of? I must have missed something

Alan managers Chris Rock

laurarichardson said: