Drummer who discovered Prince dead in elevator talks legend's legacy

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Reply #211 posted 03/31/17 1:40pm

ladygirl99

MD431Madcat said:

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE START A NEW THREAD FOR THIS IDEA/QUESTION..

I see a 30 page thread in the orgs future!

luvsexy4all said:

yesss...i thought the same...

Yesss, we need a close group or start a monitor thread because some people on this org are homophobic and can't handle the possible truth. Because if we have many people threads opposing Prince and Kirk, the thread will get shutdown. We don't want that. The thread should include people who are open that idea about Prince and Kirk J were more than just friends.

I am suspecting this for the longest that Prince is the black Liberace and Kirk is the Scott.

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Reply #212 posted 03/31/17 1:48pm

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Lawd have mercy!!!! lol

ladygirl99 said:

MD431Madcat said:

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE START A NEW THREAD FOR THIS IDEA/QUESTION..

I see a 30 page thread in the orgs future!

Yesss, we need a close group or start a monitor thread because some people on this org are homophobic and can't handle the possible truth. Because if we have many people threads opposing Prince and Kirk, the thread will get shutdown. We don't want that. The thread should include people who are open that idea about Prince and Kirk J were more than just friends.

I am suspecting this for the longest that Prince is the black Liberace and Kirk is the Scott.

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Reply #213 posted 03/31/17 1:50pm

ladygirl99

MD431Madcat said:

Lawd have mercy!!!!

ladygirl99 said:

Yesss, we need a close group or start a monitor thread because some people on this org are homophobic and can't handle the possible truth. Because if we have many people threads opposing Prince and Kirk, the thread will get shutdown. We don't want that. The thread should include people who are open that idea about Prince and Kirk J were more than just friends.

I am suspecting this for the longest that Prince is the black Liberace and Kirk is the Scott.

LOL but not suprising if the theory is true.

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Reply #214 posted 03/31/17 2:03pm

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at this Juncture- i'm ready for any truthful news... PRINCE IS DEAD! sad

ladygirl99 said:

MD431Madcat said:

Lawd have mercy!!!!

LOL but not suprising if the theory is true.

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Reply #215 posted 03/31/17 2:14pm

nelcp777	ladygirl99 said: MD431Madcat said: Lawd have mercy!!!! LOL but not suprising if the theory is true. [Edited 3/31/17 13:51pm] That would explain the Daddy Pop dance routine (just joking).
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Reply #216 posted 03/31/17 2:17pm

morningsong

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morningsong said:

Why would I do that? I'm not the one repeating it with no evidence. I think it's the responsiblity of those that are certain that what they are saying is the truth to provide the proof.

I guess you can't understand the word originally used which was "supposedly"...did I state it as fact?No.

Sooo...in the interim, if you're hell bent on "receipts" look it up yourself. I was only trying to help someone in passing and you pass a snarky remark in regards to "consider the source"....

I honestly don't know why I'm giving an opinion so much time.

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Reply #217 posted 03/31/17 4:18pm

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Some thoughts and questions after seeing this interview: 1. Is Kirk J gay? Serious question. And I am not asking for speculation, I'm asking if he is an out gay man. A simple yes or no if it's common knowledge. I don't feel like Googling it. 2. Does anyone find it interesting that for all the people that have come and gone in Prince's life over the years (managers, girlfriends, wives, band mates, Shiela) that Kirk J stuck around and was his buddy from the 80's until the day he died? I believe they met during the filming of PR. 3. That laughter and the "Kirk's Vault" comment tells me that there is a whooooole lot more to Prince's death than just a performer who was hurting from years of dancing and self medicating. Sure, that's the media narrative but it isn't the whole truth. And we will probably never get the whole truth. We'll only get knowing laughter from Kirk's vault. 4. I miss Prince.

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Reply #218 posted 03/31/17 4:32pm

rogifan	I remember reading somewhere (maybe it was here) that there are framed pictures of kids in Prince's office at PP and they're pictures of Kirk's kids. Paisley Park is in your heart #PrinceForever 💜
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Reply #219 posted 03/31/17 4:57pm

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precioux said:

paulludvig said:

He went on vacation. 3 days after Prince passed. Anyone knows where to?

Supposedly Switzerland....

Yes, I heard Switzerland also! Everyone here at the org was wondering why Switzerland and was trying to trace the money trail.

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Reply #220 posted 03/31/17 5:04pm

ladygirl99 said:

MD431Madcat said:

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE START A NEW THREAD FOR THIS IDEA/QUESTION..

I see a 30 page thread in the orgs future!

Yesss, we need a close group or start a monitor thread because some people on this org are homophobic and can't handle the possible truth. Because if we have many people threads opposing Prince and Kirk, the thread will get shutdown. We don't want that. The thread should include people who are open that idea about Prince and Kirk J were more than just friends.

I am suspecting this for the longest that Prince is the black Liberace and Kirk is the Scott.

Why start a new thread, hasn't the question of Prince's sexuality been discussed previously?

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Reply #221 posted 03/31/17 5:12pm

PurpleDiamonds 1	rogifan said: I remember reading somewhere (maybe it was here) that there are framed pictures of kids in Prince's office at PP and they're pictures of Kirk's kids. Thought someone also posted Kirk had a girl friend at the celebration at PP after the moline incident?
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Reply #222 posted 03/31/17 5:33pm

ladygirl99

Asenath0607 said:

ladygirl99 said:

Yesss, we need a close group or start a monitor thread because some people on this org are homophobic and can't handle the possible truth. Because if we have many people threads opposing Prince and Kirk, the thread will get shutdown. We don't want that. The thread should include people who are open that idea about Prince and Kirk J were more than just friends.

I am suspecting this for the longest that Prince is the black Liberace and Kirk is the Scott.

Why start a new thread, hasn't the question of Prince's sexuality been discussed previously?

Someone else wanted to start about suggesting Prince and Kirk J and I think it might be a good idea because this thread discuss mainly about Kirk J found Prince.

I won't be starting a new thread about Prince's sexuality or Prince/Kirk J in this org because of how those threads ended up being and its not the platform for it.

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Reply #223 posted 03/31/17 5:57pm

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nelcp777 said:

ladygirl99 said:

LOL but not suprising if the theory is true.

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That would explain the Daddy Pop dance routine (just joking).

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Reply #224 posted 03/31/17 5:58pm

ladygirl99 said:

Asenath0607 said:

Why start a new thread, hasn't the question of Prince's sexuality been discussed previously?

Someone else wanted to start about suggesting Prince and Kirk J and I think it might be a good idea because this thread discuss mainly about Kirk J found Prince.

I won't be starting a new thread about Prince's sexuality or Prince/Kirk J in this org because of how those threads ended up being and its not the platform for it.

Got cha. I'm relatively new and I did look at old threads and saw that they got kind of heated so I get it. After watching the video, I understood why the person asked the question about KJ. I don't want to get the thread locked or people upset but I always wondered about the story of P being put out by his dad because he was found in the bed with a girl; it doesn't/didn't make sense to me. Seemed kind of extreme, but some parents hit the roof when it's..... never mind. thanks for answering.

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Reply #225 posted 03/31/17 6:06pm

morningsong	All I know is Prince said he's straight and he doesn't smoke weed, so I guess you work with it as you will.
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Reply #226 posted 03/31/17 6:08pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

nelcp777 said:

That would explain the Daddy Pop dance routine (just joking).

Lawd have mercy... falloff

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #227 posted 03/31/17 6:21pm

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All I know is Prince said he's straight and he doesn't smoke weed, so I guess you work with it as you will.

Not that it matters, but if he said it, I accept it. NOT saying this about P, or attributing it to him, but a millennial said to me "I think so-and-so may have had sexual encounters with men, but I don't think he's gay". It doesn't matter. I'm sad that P is no longer with us here on Earth and am getting better at trying to appreciate the music he left behind and live his message to "Love God" and forgot all the rest...it get's hard sometimes though.

Keeping with the thread, I noticed that the CBS video is no longer on their site.

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Reply #228 posted 03/31/17 6:48pm

precioux	PennyPurple said: precioux said: paulludvig said: He went on vacation. 3 days after Prince passed. Anyone knows where to? Supposedly Switzerland.... Yes, I heard Switzerland also! Everyone here at the org was wondering why Switzerland and was trying to trace the money trail. thanks Pennypurple
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Reply #229 posted 03/31/17 6:48pm

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laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:
He did not know he was taking fentanyl. The pills were made up to look like hydrocodone but were laced with fentanyl.

--Some people cannot get this in their heads for anything.

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Haven't you gotten it? They don't care.

--You are correct.

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...

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Reply #230 posted 03/31/17 6:51pm

precioux

Asenath0607 said:

ladygirl99 said:

Asenath0607 said:

Why start a new thread, hasn't the question of Prince's sexuality been discussed previously?

Someone else wanted to start about suggesting Prince and Kirk J and I think it might be a good idea because this thread discuss mainly about Kirk J found Prince.

I won't be starting a new thread about Prince's sexuality or Prince/Kirk J in this org because of how those threads ended up being and its not the platform for it.

...never thought of that, and I always thought the original scenario was pretty extreme as well..oh goodness

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Reply #231 posted 03/31/17 6:56pm

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Asenath0607 said:

morningsong said:

All I know is Prince said he's straight and he doesn't smoke weed, so I guess you work with it as you will.

Not that it matters, but if he said it, I accept it. NOT saying this about P, or attributing it to him, but a millennial said to me "I think so-and-so may have had sexual encounters with men, but I don't think he's gay". It doesn't matter. I'm sad that P is no longer with us here on Earth and am getting better at trying to appreciate the music he left behind and live his message to "Love God" and forgot all the rest...it get's hard sometimes though.

Keeping with the thread, I noticed that the CBS video is no longer on their site.

??? "Don't Play Me"

What's funny, within this year, I got told how unprogressive I was for thinking he was gay 37 years ago and being perfectly okay with it, and yet one is still unprogressive accepting what he said and being okay with it. Can't win for losing.

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Reply #232 posted 03/31/17 6:57pm

PennyPurple

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precioux said:
PennyPurple said:

Yes, I heard Switzerland also! Everyone here at the org was wondering why Switzerland and was trying to trace the money trail.

thanks Pennypurple

You're welcome!

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Reply #233 posted 03/31/17 7:34pm

morningsong said:

Asenath0607 said:

Not that it matters, but if he said it, I accept it. NOT saying this about P, or attributing it to him, but a millennial said to me "I think so-and-so may have had sexual encounters with men, but I don't think he's gay". It doesn't matter. I'm sad that P is no longer with us here on Earth and am getting better at trying to appreciate the music he left behind and live his message to "Love God" and forgot all the rest...it get's hard sometimes though.

Keeping with the thread, I noticed that the CBS video is no longer on their site.

??? "Don't Play Me"

What's funny, within this year, I got told how unprogressive I was for thinking he was gay 37 years ago and being perfectly okay with it, and yet one is still unprogressive accepting what he said and being okay with it. Can't win for losing.

don't mean "if he said it" like I don't believe he said it, or like I'm questioning you IF he said it...wasn't meant like that. Just mean I accept whatever he said.

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Reply #234 posted 03/31/17 8:21pm

rogifan	This thread. Paisley Park is in your heart #PrinceForever 💜
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Reply #235 posted 03/31/17 9:14pm

gingerwildwood	What was the point of this "interview" ? It's not a good look for KJ and it's probably best that they took it down. Seriously, WTH? If it's magic, then why can't it be everlasting.....
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Reply #236 posted 04/01/17 12:09am

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laurarichardson said:

lastdecember said:

laurarichardson said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said: --Some people cannot get this in their heads for anything.

Because there is no way to know what HE knew. Is there some secret comment from Prince that we are missing that says I never took Fentanyl? Are we going on someones word at Paisley or around him? He easily could have been given these pills and like I said if he was never told what he was taking that in fact is Murder. BUT he could have also been trying to hide it himself. How do we know that he did not get this himself? Was Kirk doping him up? To my knowledge there has been no questioning of Doctors to this point. The fact is that he was given a "kill shot" hours after a show which meant he most likely took a lot prior to going on stage, possibly to get through the show. For us "he did not know" what he was taking is an assumption it was a murder.

Look we know from the ME that this was considered accidentle because the pills were mislabled and we have heard from unamed sources that he had no Fenteny in his system from test the day before.

Don't you think since he went to a doctor and had complained to at least two people that his stomach was hurting and he was going to see his doctor before booking the addictional 9 shows that he might not have known what is was taking.? Don't you think the police are basing this investigation off of these factoids?

Why go to a doctor at all if he knew what he was taking" ? Why tell Adrian he was not a 100% for an Atlanta aftershow and had to see his doc. Dope addicts just keep taking drugs and living in a state of denial or they go to rehab. They do not go to the doctor to see if they are addicted. Something was making him feel different from whatever he was normally taking and he was concerned enough to mention it two people and see a doctor. Oh and to postpone concerts which was money going out of his pocket.

It is funny you belive a TMZ story about a kill shot which we have no proof of since the hospital has said they had no patient by that name at the hospital at all but you cannot take the unamed sources given by AP has having any validity concerning his clear test for Fentenyl the day before.

The police have keep this case open an unuaslly long time for a simple O.D. They have much more info than we do so sit tight.

I never heard the narcan shot from TMZ, the narcan was reported pretty much on every network including CNN. If there was not addiction issue then why call in the number one addiction guy? Why not just go to someone low key in Minneapolis . Prince was hooked on something whether he was tricked into it, or fell into it of his own free will it really does not matter at this point. The event on the plane was real, how it happened we won't know but the timing of it shows he was taking it before, during or after the show.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F

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Reply #237 posted 04/01/17 3:43am

MMJas

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ladygirl99 said:

MD431Madcat said:

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE START A NEW THREAD FOR THIS IDEA/QUESTION..

I see a 30 page thread in the orgs future!

Yesss, we need a close group or start a monitor thread because some people on this org are homophobic and can't handle the possible truth. Because if we have many people threads opposing Prince and Kirk, the thread will get shutdown. We don't want that. The thread should include people who are open that idea about Prince and Kirk J were more than just friends.

I am suspecting this for the longest that Prince is the black Liberace and Kirk is the Scott.

Just when you thought it was safe to come on this thread... Talk about farfetched.

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Reply #238 posted 04/01/17 4:00am

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Doesn't seem any more far-fetched than other crap we've heard. (to me)

MMJas said:

ladygirl99 said:

Yesss, we need a close group or start a monitor thread because some people on this org are homophobic and can't handle the possible truth. Because if we have many people threads opposing Prince and Kirk, the thread will get shutdown. We don't want that. The thread should include people who are open that idea about Prince and Kirk J were more than just friends.

I am suspecting this for the longest that Prince is the black Liberace and Kirk is the Scott.

Just when you thought it was safe to come on this thread... Talk about farfetched.

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Reply #239 posted 04/01/17 4:44am

MMJas

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MD431Madcat said:

Doesn't seem any more far-fetched than other crap we've heard. (to me)

MMJas said:

Just when you thought it was safe to come on this thread... Talk about farfetched.

Then we might as well start discussing the possibility of Prince being alive in Switzerland, having been abducted by aliens, having gone on an astral projection journey or having been killed by Warn a Brother. All are equally valid theories, but this is not the theories thread. That one got locked up, remember?

And no, I'm not saying this because I'm homophobic, far from it, I couldn't care less if Prince was gay, it's none of my business anyway. I'm just saying it because all of a sudden folks realised Kirk's voice is not particularly deep so he might actually be gay based on that. one. single. fact. Next!

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