rogifan said:

Someone's all over Facebook claiming Prince and Andy Allo were a thing until the very end. If that's true (who the heck knows) has she been questioned as part of any investigation? What does she know?

Is Fly on Facebook too??

paulludvig said:

XxAxX said:

precioux said: I'm not.the only.one. thank heaven. Yep I keep hoping he's not really dead but being treated for whatever in Switzerland, unwilling to let us watch him suffer. This explains a lot of the coincidences, weird things folks have said, why Kirk left town right after Mr P passed, the symbol glyph on Instagram and much more, like what Tyka said about him having done what he wanted to do. I know I am wishful thinking, but I can't help it because there are so many weird bits lying around like jigsaw puzzle pieces

He went on vacation. 3 days after Prince passed. Anyone knows where to?

Supposedly Switzerland....

precioux said:

paulludvig said:

He went on vacation. 3 days after Prince passed. Anyone knows where to?

Supposedly Switzerland....

Do we know for sure Kirk went on vacation 3 days after P passed?

Was this in an article somewhere?

Just asking because some news outlets confused Kirk and P's bodyguard Chris Gaither.

precioux said:

paulludvig said:

He went on vacation. 3 days after Prince passed. Anyone knows where to?

Supposedly Switzerland....

Lavaux is in Switzerland it's a beautiful thought.

[Edited 3/31/17 9:09am]

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

precioux said:

Supposedly Switzerland....

Do we know for sure Kirk went on vacation 3 days after P passed?

Was this in an article somewhere?

Just asking because some news outlets confused Kirk and P's bodyguard Chris Gaither.

No, I'm not sure...you may be right about it being Chris, but after a quick search, it looks to be Kirk went to Switz out of fear...don't quote me, though

[Edited 3/31/17 9:07am]

Prince went with Andy Allo for quite a bit and then went on to Jeannette Gutierrez, who is on twitter right now talking about poor snails that shouldn't be hurt bc they are so cute and adorable

paulludvig said:

removed pic due to space

hmmmm makes ya wonder

fortuneandserendipity said:

and fools are following her every update!!!

fortuneandserendipity said:

Prince went with Andy Allo for quite a bit and then went on to Jeannette Gutierrez, who is on twitter right now talking about poor snails that shouldn't be hurt bc they are so cute and adorable

fortuneandserendipity said:

Prince went with Andy Allo for quite a bit and then went on to Jeannette Gutierrez, who is on twitter right now talking about poor snails that shouldn't be hurt bc they are so cute and adorable

Yeah, right.

purplethunder3121 said:

every time I hear her name I think of mumble..happy feet

lastdecember said:

Again though I will say that this was not supposed to be about his death. I am sure when they went to Paisley is what to be an interview about the celebration not about the investigation or questions about pain over and over. CBS should have known that since this is an ongoing investigation NO ONE can comment on things, are they not aware of the LAW? The interview was very Entertainment Tonight caliber sadly.

On the other hand, on the topic of Kirk, something is up and there is a lot more to Prince's death than Hip Pain and a supposed surgery and the effects of doing splits and jumping off pianos. Fentanyl is the most powerful and lethal thing, as reported by doctors it is presribed for those recovering from chemo who are in pain, however, the body starts to almost not recognize the Fentanyl and the pain doesnt stop which would lead one in pain to take more, and since Fentanyl is the most addictive thing out there, that is a toxic combination.

We can all speculate and play monday morning quarterback with things like "someone should have been there" "intervention" etc...but this is not a typical case this is a 57 year old man not a 20 year old. and also a very powerful one with a lot of money, who easily could have said "get the hell out of here" to anyone. We do not know PRINCE's state of mind at all. We know the guy on stage, that is a small piece of who he was, very small actually. He was alone, and we do not and will never know the state of mind, health, death of Vanity, death of other icons over the last few years notably David Bowie, who knows what PRINCE was thinking or feeling, and taking something like Fentayl is the last thing he should have been doing.

We know a helluva lot more about David Bowie's state of mind than Prince's.

fortuneandserendipity said:

lastdecember said:

Again though I will say that this was not supposed to be about his death. I am sure when they went to Paisley is what to be an interview about the celebration not about the investigation or questions about pain over and over. CBS should have known that since this is an ongoing investigation NO ONE can comment on things, are they not aware of the LAW? The interview was very Entertainment Tonight caliber sadly.

On the other hand, on the topic of Kirk, something is up and there is a lot more to Prince's death than Hip Pain and a supposed surgery and the effects of doing splits and jumping off pianos. Fentanyl is the most powerful and lethal thing, as reported by doctors it is presribed for those recovering from chemo who are in pain, however, the body starts to almost not recognize the Fentanyl and the pain doesnt stop which would lead one in pain to take more, and since Fentanyl is the most addictive thing out there, that is a toxic combination.

We can all speculate and play monday morning quarterback with things like "someone should have been there" "intervention" etc...but this is not a typical case this is a 57 year old man not a 20 year old. and also a very powerful one with a lot of money, who easily could have said "get the hell out of here" to anyone. We do not know PRINCE's state of mind at all. We know the guy on stage, that is a small piece of who he was, very small actually. He was alone, and we do not and will never know the state of mind, health, death of Vanity, death of other icons over the last few years notably David Bowie, who knows what PRINCE was thinking or feeling, and taking something like Fentayl is the last thing he should have been doing.

We know a helluva lot more about David Bowie's state of mind than Prince's.

I can't watch the Lazarus video again to this day. Too naked, raw, and painful.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

precioux said:

Supposedly Switzerland....

Do we know for sure Kirk went on vacation 3 days after P passed?

Was this in an article somewhere?

Just asking because some news outlets confused Kirk and P's bodyguard Chris Gaither.

I never saw an article regarding Kirk. There was another bodyguard (I guess it was Chris) that had a vacation already scheduled so he took a vacation, but I thought that was to Texas. Kirk just kind of went quiet, but then he's been accused since day 1 by so what else can one expect.


Not to be rude but...I'd say consider the source of this kind of information.

MD431Madcat said:

and fools are following her every update!!!

fortuneandserendipity said:

Prince went with Andy Allo for quite a bit and then went on to Jeannette Gutierrez, who is on twitter right now talking about poor snails that shouldn't be hurt bc they are so cute and adorable

Yah but Prince knew a hottie when he saw one, from Susan Moonsie all the way to Jeannette Gutierrez... well maybe not Bria Valente. But hey maybe that was a JW thing

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

--Some people cannot get this in their heads for anything.

laurarichardson said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

He did not know he was taking fentanyl. The pills were made up to look like hydrocodone but were laced with fentanyl.

--Some people cannot get this in their heads for anything.

Haven't you gotten it? They don't care.

morningsong said:

laurarichardson said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said: --Some people cannot get this in their heads for anything.

Haven't you gotten it? They don't care.

Same as the ones who think if a handwritten or video will showed up the state of Minnesota would honor it.

morningsong said:

Yes, that would make sense-Gauthier is s common name in the south and we knew one of P's associates went back home as per P's instruction. Judith was told to go home as well. I said Kirk "supposedly" went to Switzerland and now that the other 2 are ruled out, I'm almost 100% positive. Maybe you can take the time out and verify it and locate the actual source?

precioux said:

Yes, that would make sense-Gauthier is s common name in the south and we knew one of P's associates went back home as per P's instruction. Judith was told to go home as well. I said Kirk "supposedly" went to Switzerland and now that the other 2 are ruled out, I'm almost 100% positive. Maybe you can take the time out and verify it and locate the actual source?

That is right. I remember Chris saying he went to Texas for vacation before

the Moline incident.

morningsong said:

--You are correct.

precioux said:

morningsong said:

I never saw an article regarding Kirk. There was another bodyguard (I guess it was Chris) that had a vacation already scheduled so he took a vacation, but I thought that was to Texas. Kirk just kind of went quiet, but then he's been accused since day 1 by so what else can one expect.


Not to be rude but...I'd say consider the source of this kind of information.

Yes, that would make sense-Gauthier is s common name in the south and we knew one of P's associates went back home as per P's instruction. Judith was told to go home as well. I said Kirk "supposedly" went to Switzerland and now that the other 2 are ruled out, I'm almost 100% positive. Maybe you can take the time out and verify it and locate the actual source?

Why would I do that? I'm not the one repeating it with no evidence. I think it's the responsiblity of those that are certain that what they are saying is the truth to provide the proof.

paulludvig said:

Spanky said:

Some thoughts and questions after seeing this interview: 1. Is Kirk J gay? Serious question. And I am not asking for speculation, I'm asking if he is an out gay man. A simple yes or no if it's common knowledge. I don't feel like Googling it. 2. Does anyone find it interesting that for all the people that have come and gone in Prince's life over the years (managers, girlfriends, wives, band mates, Shiela) that Kirk J stuck around and was his buddy from the 80's until the day he died? I believe they met during the filming of PR. 3. That laughter and the "Kirk's Vault" comment tells me that there is a whooooole lot more to Prince's death than just a performer who was hurting from years of dancing and self medicating. Sure, that's the media narrative but it isn't the whole truth. And we will probably never get the whole truth. We'll only get knowing laughter from Kirk's vault. 4. I miss Prince.

Are you suggesting that Prince and Kirk were more than just friends?

yesss...i thought the same...

paulludvig said:

precioux said:

Supposedly Switzerland....

Lavaux is in Switzerland it's a beautiful thought.

Take me to the vineyards of Lavaux
Wanna see the mountains where the waters flow
Life back home depresses me, just another form of slavery
The cost of freedom is anything but free

I don't care if they are covered with snow
I don't care if the road is narrow, if it is I'll know
It was always meant to be, still in love I must believe
Whatever path I choose will lead me home
Lead me home, Lavaux

Take me to the streets of Portugal
That might be my destiny to see the waterfall
Tears or rain, they're all the same
The only way to win this game
To let everybody play and share the ball

There ain't nobody got no chains on me
I'm flying higher than any mountain, deeper than any sea
A paradox is box's key, I'm the why in mystery
You're gonna unlock the secrets if you please

Come take me to an assembly in New York
To speak of the brand new everlasting wonder war
To win or lose is so absurd
And the only casualty is the word, the word

Revolution time has come today
'Cause it took a black face to see the same decay
Like the chocolate of Vevey, in the sun they'll melt away
As for me, I'll laugh and go to the mountains where the waters flow
Back to the vineyards of Lavaux

Lavaux
Lavaux
Lavaux
Lavaux

[Edited 3/31/17 9:09am]

ohhhh..he brought Prince there to hide.....and everyone thought he was still living in the paisley underground bunker....

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rogifan said:

luvsexy4all said:

yesss...i thought the same...

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i dont understand your post

laurarichardson said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

He did not know he was taking fentanyl. The pills were made up to look like hydrocodone but were laced with fentanyl.

--Some people cannot get this in their heads for anything.

Because there is no way to know what HE knew. Is there some secret comment from Prince that we are missing that says I never took Fentanyl? Are we going on someones word at Paisley or around him? He easily could have been given these pills and like I said if he was never told what he was taking that in fact is Murder. BUT he could have also been trying to hide it himself. How do we know that he did not get this himself? Was Kirk doping him up? To my knowledge there has been no questioning of Doctors to this point. The fact is that he was given a "kill shot" hours after a show which meant he most likely took a lot prior to going on stage, possibly to get through the show. For us "he did not know" what he was taking is an assumption it was a murder.

morningsong said:

precioux said:

morningsong said: Yes, that would make sense-Gauthier is s common name in the south and we knew one of P's associates went back home as per P's instruction. Judith was told to go home as well. I said Kirk "supposedly" went to Switzerland and now that the other 2 are ruled out, I'm almost 100% positive. Maybe you can take the time out and verify it and locate the actual source?

Why would I do that? I'm not the one repeating it with no evidence. I think it's the responsiblity of those that are certain that what they are saying is the truth to provide the proof.

I guess you can't understand the word originally used which was "supposedly"...did I state it as fact?No.


Sooo...in the interim, if you're hell bent on "receipts" look it up yourself. I was only trying to help someone in passing and you pass a snarky remark in regards to "consider the source"....

lastdecember said:

laurarichardson said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said: --Some people cannot get this in their heads for anything.

Because there is no way to know what HE knew. Is there some secret comment from Prince that we are missing that says I never took Fentanyl? Are we going on someones word at Paisley or around him? He easily could have been given these pills and like I said if he was never told what he was taking that in fact is Murder. BUT he could have also been trying to hide it himself. How do we know that he did not get this himself? Was Kirk doping him up? To my knowledge there has been no questioning of Doctors to this point. The fact is that he was given a "kill shot" hours after a show which meant he most likely took a lot prior to going on stage, possibly to get through the show. For us "he did not know" what he was taking is an assumption it was a murder.

Look we know from the ME that this was considered accidentle because the pills were mislabled and we have heard from unamed sources that he had no Fenteny in his system from test the day before.

Don't you think since he went to a doctor and had complained to at least two people that his stomach was hurting and he was going to see his doctor before booking the addictional 9 shows that he might not have known what is was taking.? Don't you think the police are basing this investigation off of these factoids?

Why go to a doctor at all if he knew what he was taking" ? Why tell Adrian he was not a 100% for an Atlanta aftershow and had to see his doc. Dope addicts just keep taking drugs and living in a state of denial or they go to rehab. They do not go to the doctor to see if they are addicted. Something was making him feel different from whatever he was normally taking and he was concerned enough to mention it two people and see a doctor. Oh and to postpone concerts which was money going out of his pocket.

It is funny you belive a TMZ story about a kill shot which we have no proof of since the hospital has said they had no patient by that name at the hospital at all but you cannot take the unamed sources given by AP has having any validity concerning his clear test for Fentenyl the day before.

The police have keep this case open an unuaslly long time for a simple O.D. They have much more info than we do so sit tight.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE START A NEW THREAD FOR THIS IDEA/QUESTION..

I see a 30 page thread in the orgs future!

luvsexy4all said:

paulludvig said:

Are you suggesting that Prince and Kirk were more than just friends?

yesss...i thought the same...