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Reply #330 posted 04/03/17 11:30am

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yeahthat x infinity!

gingerwildwood said:

206Michelle said:

yeahthat

I will never be convinced that Kirk DIDN'T get him that stuff. Of course he knows what happened but he doesn'twant to incriminate himself. Kirk's a fool if he thinks most people can't see through him.

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Reply #331 posted 04/03/17 11:41am

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Yes Laura! ( Yes. You ARE a goalkeeper!!) If he actually gave Prince those mislabeled pills. But he also might have been unaware. Then how is law enforcmement going to decide what his guilt in this situation is. They were friends. People can't blame him for being a friend! At this moment Prince is like an imploding star, dragging everyone who ever involved with him into a black hole.

I hope that when a friend his aliing that his so-called friends do not look at him as a blackhole. Prince looked out for a lot of people so I bet they did not see a black hole when they were getting a paycheck.

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Reply #332 posted 04/03/17 12:56pm

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Bassette said:


Yes Laura! ( Yes. You ARE a goalkeeper!!) If he actually gave Prince those mislabeled pills. But he also might have been unaware. Then how is law enforcmement going to decide what his guilt in this situation is. They were friends. People can't blame him for being a friend! At this moment Prince is like an imploding star, dragging everyone who ever involved with him into a black hole.



I hope that when a friend his aliing that his so-called friends do not look at him as a blackhole. Prince looked out for a lot of people so I bet they did not see a black hole when they were getting a paycheck.


Well Kim,His hairdresser, does not seem to be going in that black hole...she proudly said she worked with him until his untimely death...unlike some other so called associates and friends (Van, Phaedra...to name a few)
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Reply #333 posted 04/03/17 1:37pm

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Yes Laura! ( Yes. You ARE a goalkeeper!!) If he actually gave Prince those mislabeled pills. But he also might have been unaware. Then how is law enforcmement going to decide what his guilt in this situation is. They were friends. People can't blame him for being a friend! At this moment Prince is like an imploding star, dragging everyone who ever involved with him into a black hole.

The way I read this was his people (friends, employees et al) are being sucked into the black hole of a mega-celebrity death. Not that they are choosing whether or not to BE in a black hole. There's a difference.

Brand new boogie without the hero.
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Reply #334 posted 04/03/17 1:39pm

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Bassette said:

Yes Laura! ( Yes. You ARE a goalkeeper!!) If he actually gave Prince those mislabeled pills. But he also might have been unaware. Then how is law enforcmement going to decide what his guilt in this situation is. They were friends. People can't blame him for being a friend! At this moment Prince is like an imploding star, dragging everyone who ever involved with him into a black hole.

The way I read this was his people (friends, employees et al) are being sucked into the black hole of a mega-celebrity death. Not that they are choosing whether or not to BE in a black hole. There's a difference.

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Reply #335 posted 04/03/17 2:25pm

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Bassette said:

Yes Laura! ( Yes. You ARE a goalkeeper!!) If he actually gave Prince those mislabeled pills. But he also might have been unaware. Then how is law enforcmement going to decide what his guilt in this situation is. They were friends. People can't blame him for being a friend! At this moment Prince is like an imploding star, dragging everyone who ever involved with him into a black hole.

I do believe the charge would be manslaughter. There's voluntary and involuntary. If he did not know it would be involuntary. Any attorney here may please correct me if Im wrong.

[Edited 4/3/17 14:26pm]

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Reply #336 posted 04/03/17 2:33pm

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3rd-degree murder may be an applicable charge: Here's the Minnesota statute (I'm not an attorney btw smile ) https://www.revisor.mn.go...id=609.195

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it says: " Whoever, without intent to cause death, proximately causes the death of a human being by, directly or indirectly, unlawfully selling, giving away, bartering, delivering, exchanging, distributing, or administering a controlled substance classified in Schedule I or II, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years or to payment of a fine of not more than $40,000, or both."

LoriJ said:

Bassette said:

Yes Laura! ( Yes. You ARE a goalkeeper!!) If he actually gave Prince those mislabeled pills. But he also might have been unaware. Then how is law enforcmement going to decide what his guilt in this situation is. They were friends. People can't blame him for being a friend! At this moment Prince is like an imploding star, dragging everyone who ever involved with him into a black hole.

I do believe the charge would be manslaughter. There's voluntary and involuntary. If he did not know it would be involuntary. Any attorney here may please correct me if Im wrong.

[Edited 4/3/17 14:26pm]

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Reply #337 posted 04/03/17 2:34pm

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This is all so damn simple..

Who was closest to Prince?

Who drove him to Walgreens?

Why did Prince need to go? to get medication for What?

Why was a sick man left alone on the evening of April 20th 2016?

Who was last with him?


If we could get those answers i think we'd be much closer to the TRUTH!

hmmm....? who might have most of the answers above? confused

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Reply #338 posted 04/03/17 2:39pm

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This had to be extremely tough on Kirk, I'm sure. Still so many unanswered questions and cannot even begin to imagine the devastation of finding your best friend dead in an elevator. sad He looked nervous and uncomfortable to me and is still grieving. I wish him well.


He should have just stayed off TV and kept his mouth shut. This served no one - and I'm sure his legal counsel is not happy with him.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #339 posted 04/03/17 2:42pm

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(b) certainly pertains to the situation. Thank you for the link.

disch said:

3rd-degree murder may be an applicable charge: Here's the Minnesota statute (I'm not an attorney btw smile ) https://www.revisor.mn.go...id=609.195

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it says: " Whoever, without intent to cause death, proximately causes the death of a human being by, directly or indirectly, unlawfully selling, giving away, bartering, delivering, exchanging, distributing, or administering a controlled substance classified in Schedule I or II, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years or to payment of a fine of not more than $40,000, or both."

LoriJ said:

I do believe the charge would be manslaughter. There's voluntary and involuntary. If he did not know it would be involuntary. Any attorney here may please correct me if Im wrong.

[Edited 4/3/17 14:26pm]

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Reply #340 posted 04/03/17 3:07pm

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Genesia said:

Missmusicluver72 said:

This had to be extremely tough on Kirk, I'm sure. Still so many unanswered questions and cannot even begin to imagine the devastation of finding your best friend dead in an elevator. sad He looked nervous and uncomfortable to me and is still grieving. I wish him well.


He should have just stayed off TV and kept his mouth shut. This served no one - and I'm sure his legal counsel is not happy with him.

I am almost certain his attorney was standing to the right of the camerman to

make sure he didnt say anything.

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Reply #341 posted 04/03/17 3:12pm

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Genesia said:



Missmusicluver72 said:


This had to be extremely tough on Kirk, I'm sure. Still so many unanswered questions and cannot even begin to imagine the devastation of finding your best friend dead in an elevator. sad He looked nervous and uncomfortable to me and is still grieving. I wish him well.




He should have just stayed off TV and kept his mouth shut. This served no one - and I'm sure his legal counsel is not happy with him.


Agree with this. If you got nothing to add then why bother with an interview. Anyone could have gone on and said "Celebration coming up. Prince was a genius. Next."
P.s. Those with nothing to hide have nothing to hide. Why the mystery and innuendo if it was truly just a class a overdose and nothing more?
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Reply #342 posted 04/03/17 3:12pm

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Unfortunately and surprisingly, over the years, i've seen a lot of hate towards Kirk Johnson on the org. I'd like to inject a bit of positivity for and towards this brotha cuz he deserves it. First off, as far as talent, i feel like there's more than meets the eye with him. He assumed a variety of roles with Prince and i don't think Prince offered him the opportunities for the hell of it. He was a dancer, percussionist, drummer, programmer, producer, mastered Chaos and Disorder, managed Paisley Park and seemed to be a road assistant to Prince. He moved very easily from one role to the next. He would again assume the role of drummer prior to Prince's passing. And, he was a close friend to Prince, which was pretty major. As far as the interview, i found Kirk to be very sincere and both protective and respectful to Prince's legacy and privacy. The interviewer, on the other hand, was very shady and attempted to goad Kirk into answering questions which were of a sensationalist bend/agenda and Kirk responded with chuckles and some firm "next question" retorts. To me, he comes off as solid on all fronts. Friend till the end with Prince and possessor of many (growing and developing) talents.

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Reply #343 posted 04/03/17 3:22pm

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anthonyspeaks said:

Unfortunately and surprisingly, over the years, i've seen a lot of hate towards Kirk Johnson on the org. I'd like to inject a bit of positivity for and towards this brotha cuz he deserves it. First off, as far as talent, i feel like there's more than meets the eye with him. He assumed a variety of roles with Prince and i don't think Prince offered him the opportunities for the hell of it. He was a dancer, percussionist, drummer, programmer, producer, mastered Chaos and Disorder, managed Paisley Park and seemed to be a road assistant to Prince. He moved very easily from one role to the next. He would again assume the role of drummer prior to Prince's passing. And, he was a close friend to Prince, which was pretty major. As far as the interview, i found Kirk to be very sincere and both protective and respectful to Prince's legacy and privacy. The interviewer, on the other hand, was very shady and attempted to goad Kirk into answering questions which were of a sensationalist bend/agenda and Kirk responded with chuckles and some firm "next question" retorts. To me, he comes off as solid on all fronts. Friend till the end with Prince and possessor of many (growing and developing) talents.

Kirk? Is that you? lol

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Reply #344 posted 04/03/17 3:31pm

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The questions were not shady,imo. The interviewer wouldhave been remiss not to try. It's not sensationalistic to ask questions that people know he knows the anwsers to. confused

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Reply #345 posted 04/03/17 3:36pm

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Hi Kirk! lol


PennyPurple said:

anthonyspeaks said:

Unfortunately and surprisingly, over the years, i've seen a lot of hate towards Kirk Johnson on the org. I'd like to inject a bit of positivity for and towards this brotha cuz he deserves it. First off, as far as talent, i feel like there's more than meets the eye with him. He assumed a variety of roles with Prince and i don't think Prince offered him the opportunities for the hell of it. He was a dancer, percussionist, drummer, programmer, producer, mastered Chaos and Disorder, managed Paisley Park and seemed to be a road assistant to Prince. He moved very easily from one role to the next. He would again assume the role of drummer prior to Prince's passing. And, he was a close friend to Prince, which was pretty major. As far as the interview, i found Kirk to be very sincere and both protective and respectful to Prince's legacy and privacy. The interviewer, on the other hand, was very shady and attempted to goad Kirk into answering questions which were of a sensationalist bend/agenda and Kirk responded with chuckles and some firm "next question" retorts. To me, he comes off as solid on all fronts. Friend till the end with Prince and possessor of many (growing and developing) talents.

Kirk? Is that you? lol

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Reply #346 posted 04/03/17 4:33pm

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PennyPurple said:



anthonyspeaks said:


Unfortunately and surprisingly, over the years, i've seen a lot of hate towards Kirk Johnson on the org. I'd like to inject a bit of positivity for and towards this brotha cuz he deserves it. First off, as far as talent, i feel like there's more than meets the eye with him. He assumed a variety of roles with Prince and i don't think Prince offered him the opportunities for the hell of it. He was a dancer, percussionist, drummer, programmer, producer, mastered Chaos and Disorder, managed Paisley Park and seemed to be a road assistant to Prince. He moved very easily from one role to the next. He would again assume the role of drummer prior to Prince's passing. And, he was a close friend to Prince, which was pretty major. As far as the interview, i found Kirk to be very sincere and both protective and respectful to Prince's legacy and privacy. The interviewer, on the other hand, was very shady and attempted to goad Kirk into answering questions which were of a sensationalist bend/agenda and Kirk responded with chuckles and some firm "next question" retorts. To me, he comes off as solid on all fronts. Friend till the end with Prince and possessor of many (growing and developing) talents.



Kirk? Is that you? lol


lol
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Reply #347 posted 04/03/17 5:40pm

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anthonyspeaks said:

Unfortunately and surprisingly, over the years, i've seen a lot of hate towards Kirk Johnson on the org. I'd like to inject a bit of positivity for and towards this brotha cuz he deserves it. First off, as far as talent, i feel like there's more than meets the eye with him. He assumed a variety of roles with Prince and i don't think Prince offered him the opportunities for the hell of it. He was a dancer, percussionist, drummer, programmer, producer, mastered Chaos and Disorder, managed Paisley Park and seemed to be a road assistant to Prince. He moved very easily from one role to the next. He would again assume the role of drummer prior to Prince's passing. And, he was a close friend to Prince, which was pretty major. As far as the interview, i found Kirk to be very sincere and both protective and respectful to Prince's legacy and privacy. The interviewer, on the other hand, was very shady and attempted to goad Kirk into answering questions which were of a sensationalist bend/agenda and Kirk responded with chuckles and some firm "next question" retorts. To me, he comes off as solid on all fronts. Friend till the end with Prince and possessor of many (growing and developing) talents.


Thanks for putting this out here. I don't see him as a bad person. Obviously, Prince didn't either.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #348 posted 04/03/17 5:42pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I am almost certain his attorney was standing to the right of the camerman to

make sure he didnt say anything.



I'll bet you're right lol

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #349 posted 04/03/17 6:40pm

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PennyPurple said:



anthonyspeaks said:


Unfortunately and surprisingly, over the years, i've seen a lot of hate towards Kirk Johnson on the org. I'd like to inject a bit of positivity for and towards this brotha cuz he deserves it. First off, as far as talent, i feel like there's more than meets the eye with him. He assumed a variety of roles with Prince and i don't think Prince offered him the opportunities for the hell of it. He was a dancer, percussionist, drummer, programmer, producer, mastered Chaos and Disorder, managed Paisley Park and seemed to be a road assistant to Prince. He moved very easily from one role to the next. He would again assume the role of drummer prior to Prince's passing. And, he was a close friend to Prince, which was pretty major. As far as the interview, i found Kirk to be very sincere and both protective and respectful to Prince's legacy and privacy. The interviewer, on the other hand, was very shady and attempted to goad Kirk into answering questions which were of a sensationalist bend/agenda and Kirk responded with chuckles and some firm "next question" retorts. To me, he comes off as solid on all fronts. Friend till the end with Prince and possessor of many (growing and developing) talents.



Kirk? Is that you? lol


This site classy as ever. rolleyes
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Reply #350 posted 04/03/17 6:48pm

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rogifan said:

PennyPurple said:

Kirk? Is that you? lol

This site classy as ever. rolleyes

Oh, laugh a little Rogifan. Laughter is good for the soul. lol

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Reply #351 posted 04/03/17 7:30pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Genesia said:


He should have just stayed off TV and kept his mouth shut. This served no one - and I'm sure his legal counsel is not happy with him.

I am almost certain his attorney was standing to the right of the camerman to

make sure he didnt say anything.

i don't know for sure but i would think that when dealing with the media, people usually have things they tell them are off limits so why this guy or his lawyers didn't do that i don't know. Look how many interviews eddie murphy has done and no one asks him to his face about trannies, with this crazy celeb culture we are in, that can only be because he sets the ground rules.

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Reply #352 posted 04/03/17 10:05pm

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anthonyspeaks said:

Unfortunately and surprisingly, over the years, i've seen a lot of hate towards Kirk Johnson on the org. I'd like to inject a bit of positivity for and towards this brotha cuz he deserves it. First off, as far as talent, i feel like there's more than meets the eye with him. He assumed a variety of roles with Prince and i don't think Prince offered him the opportunities for the hell of it. He was a dancer, percussionist, drummer, programmer, producer, mastered Chaos and Disorder, managed Paisley Park and seemed to be a road assistant to Prince. He moved very easily from one role to the next. He would again assume the role of drummer prior to Prince's passing. And, he was a close friend to Prince, which was pretty major. As far as the interview, i found Kirk to be very sincere and both protective and respectful to Prince's legacy and privacy. The interviewer, on the other hand, was very shady and attempted to goad Kirk into answering questions which were of a sensationalist bend/agenda and Kirk responded with chuckles and some firm "next question" retorts. To me, he comes off as solid on all fronts. Friend till the end with Prince and possessor of many (growing and developing) talents.



Kirk was on the plane when he first OD'd. Kirk found him in the elevator. What was Kirk's official title during those last few weeks?
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Reply #353 posted 04/04/17 4:38am

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PennyPurple said:

rogifan said:

PennyPurple said: This site classy as ever. rolleyes

Oh, laugh a little Rogifan. Laughter is good for the soul. lol

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Reply #354 posted 04/04/17 4:43am

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Spanky said:

anthonyspeaks said:

Unfortunately and surprisingly, over the years, i've seen a lot of hate towards Kirk Johnson on the org. I'd like to inject a bit of positivity for and towards this brotha cuz he deserves it. First off, as far as talent, i feel like there's more than meets the eye with him. He assumed a variety of roles with Prince and i don't think Prince offered him the opportunities for the hell of it. He was a dancer, percussionist, drummer, programmer, producer, mastered Chaos and Disorder, managed Paisley Park and seemed to be a road assistant to Prince. He moved very easily from one role to the next. He would again assume the role of drummer prior to Prince's passing. And, he was a close friend to Prince, which was pretty major. As far as the interview, i found Kirk to be very sincere and both protective and respectful to Prince's legacy and privacy. The interviewer, on the other hand, was very shady and attempted to goad Kirk into answering questions which were of a sensationalist bend/agenda and Kirk responded with chuckles and some firm "next question" retorts. To me, he comes off as solid on all fronts. Friend till the end with Prince and possessor of many (growing and developing) talents.

Kirk was on the plane when he first OD'd. Kirk found him in the elevator. What was Kirk's official title during those last few weeks?

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Reply #355 posted 04/04/17 6:17am

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Kirk was on the plane when he first OD'd. Kirk found him in the elevator. What was Kirk's official title during those last few weeks?

Facilities manager

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Reply #356 posted 04/04/17 8:00am

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Spanky said:.


Kirk was on the plane when he first OD'd. Kirk found him in the elevator. What was Kirk's official title during those last few weeks?

Facilities manager


And Prince's right hand man. I'm pretty sure he was traveling with Prince for all of his P&M shows. I know during one of the Aussie shows Prince calls out Kirk by name.
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Reply #357 posted 04/04/17 12:05pm

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gingerwildwood said:



Spanky said:.


Kirk was on the plane when he first OD'd. Kirk found him in the elevator. What was Kirk's official title during those last few weeks?

Facilities manager


Facilities manager? So I don't get why he'd be the one carrying Prince off the plane. I feel like there is more to it. I don't think it was a gay thing now that I've heard Kirk was married with kids. And Prince had a LOT of female relationships on record. But I do feel that Kirk is hiding something he views as controversial.

Let's say it was an STD. Why hide it? My opinion of Prince and his music wouldn't change one bit. I don't think the general public would shun his records over this either. People make mistakes. Big deal. And if it wasn't an STD and just drugs, then why all the secrecy? It's out there already that he OD'd so what is there to hide and what privacy is there to respect? We know how he died and how they found him. And Kirk feels like he can't elaborate on how he felt finding his friend because of privacy? Sure. Something stanks.
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Reply #358 posted 04/04/17 12:07pm

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Spanky said:

gingerwildwood said:

Facilities manager

Facilities manager? So I don't get why he'd be the one carrying Prince off the plane. I feel like there is more to it. I don't think it was a gay thing now that I've heard Kirk was married with kids. And Prince had a LOT of female relationships on record. But I do feel that Kirk is hiding something he views as controversial. Let's say it was an STD. Why hide it? My opinion of Prince and his music wouldn't change one bit. I don't think the general public would shun his records over this either. People make mistakes. Big deal. And if it wasn't an STD and just drugs, then why all the secrecy? It's out there already that he OD'd so what is there to hide and what privacy is there to respect? We know how he died and how they found him. And Kirk feels like he can't elaborate on how he felt finding his friend because of privacy? Sure. Something stanks.

Kirk also worked as a bodyguard for Prince.

Prince's full time bodyguard was Chris Gaither and he was on vacation.

This is why Kirk was with him on the Atlanta trip.

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Reply #359 posted 04/04/17 12:38pm

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This is ALL a bunch of fucking Bullshit!

WE NEED THE TRUTH!!!!!!!! confused

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