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Controversial Take: Prince's Greatest Song: When You Were Mine. There,I said it.
It's got everything:
An instantly insanely catchy melody.
Super Princely production.
Risqué, clever lyrics that simultaneously tililate and amuse. |
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Reply #1 posted 03/19/17 4:01pm
CocoRock |
Some of you MF's apparently have no idea what the word 'controversial' means. |
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Reply #2 posted 03/19/17 4:29pm
ufoclub |
Doesn't have Princely production. It has standard rock pop production. |
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Reply #3 posted 03/19/17 8:08pm
214 |
Make up your mind boy, is it this or Mountains? |
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Reply #5 posted 03/20/17 10:06am
Genesia |
My absolute, all-time favorite Prince song. One of my biggest regrets is that I never got to see him perform it in person. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. |
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Reply #6 posted 03/20/17 11:21am
bonatoc |
I don't want to offend anyone, but I think the threesome point of view only exist in homosexual or bisexual journalists minds, who'd like to think Prince embraced their lifestyle.
Prince has always used metaphors, imagery and innuendos in his lyrics. To me, it doesn't make any sense to call "another guy" a supposedly common lover.
I never cared I never was the kind to make a fuss When he was there Sleepin' in between the two of us
... means the presence of the rival is not physical, or at least it's not a simultaneous physical presence. "in between" could mean that the rival jumped in her sheets every time Prince wasn't around. It's the same subject of "Irresistible Bitch" and many other do-wrong woman songs in his repertoire. Prince only tolerate the presence of a lover because he's mad about the girl. He lets her fool around.
If this was really about a trio, I don't think it would be called When U Were Mine. But that's open to controversy, and that's one of the reasons it's such a great song.
The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams |
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Reply #7 posted 03/20/17 11:29am
Genesia |
bonatoc said:
I don't want to offend anyone, but I think the threesome point of view only exist in homosexual or bisexual journalists minds, who'd like to think Prince embraced their lifestyle.
Prince has always used metaphors, imagery and innuendos in his lyrics. To me, it doesn't make any sense to call "another guy" a supposedly common lover.
I never cared I never was the kind to make a fuss When he was there Sleepin' in between the two of us
... means the presence of the rival is not physical, or at least it's not a simultaneous physical presence. "in between" could mean that the rival jumped in her sheets every time Prince wasn't around. It's the same subject of "Irresistible Bitch" and many other do-wrong woman songs in his repertoire. Prince only tolerate the presence of a lover because he's mad about the girl. He lets her fool around.
If this was really about a trio, I don't think it would be called When U Were Mine. But that's open to controversy, and that's one of the reasons it's such a great song.
Prince fans are ssssooooooo literal.
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Reply #8 posted 03/20/17 11:36am
E319 |
bonatoc said:
I don't want to offend anyone, but I think the threesome point of view only exist in homosexual or bisexual journalists minds, who'd like to think Prince embraced their lifestyle.
Prince has always used metaphors, imagery and innuendos in his lyrics. To me, it doesn't make any sense to call "another guy" a supposedly common lover.
I never cared I never was the kind to make a fuss When he was there Sleepin' in between the two of us
... means the presence of the rival is not physical, or at least it's not a simultaneous physical presence. "in between" could mean that the rival jumped in her sheets every time Prince wasn't around. It's the same subject of "Irresistible Bitch" and many other do-wrong woman songs in his repertoire. Prince only tolerate the presence of a lover because he's mad about the girl. He lets her fool around.
If this was really about a trio, I don't think it would be called When U Were Mine. But that's open to controversy, and that's one of the reasons it's such a great song.
I COMPLETELY AGREE!
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Reply #9 posted 03/21/17 1:44pm
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bonatoc said:
I don't want to offend anyone, but I think the threesome point of view only exist in homosexual or bisexual journalists minds, who'd like to think Prince embraced their lifestyle.
Prince has always used metaphors, imagery and innuendos in his lyrics. To me, it doesn't make any sense to call "another guy" a supposedly common lover.
I never cared I never was the kind to make a fuss When he was there Sleepin' in between the two of us
... means the presence of the rival is not physical, or at least it's not a simultaneous physical presence. "in between" could mean that the rival jumped in her sheets every time Prince wasn't around. It's the same subject of "Irresistible Bitch" and many other do-wrong woman songs in his repertoire. Prince only tolerate the presence of a lover because he's mad about the girl. He lets her fool around.
If this was really about a trio, I don't think it would be called When U Were Mine. But that's open to controversy, and that's one of the reasons it's such a great song.
That's my take as well, i don't think has nothing to do with neither homosexual nor bisexual thing. |
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Reply #10 posted 03/22/17 4:14am
NewpowerScarfo |
Dire Straits seem to use the same melody on their Walk of Life song. |
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Reply #11 posted 03/22/17 6:24am
bluegangsta
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CocoRock said:
Some of you MF's apparently have no idea what the word 'controversial' means.
I know right? If only Prince wrote a song with some examples of what the word means... Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain. |
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Reply #12 posted 03/22/17 6:48am
RicoN |
bonatoc said:
I don't want to offend anyone, but I think the threesome point of view only exist in homosexual or bisexual journalists minds, who'd like to think Prince embraced their lifestyle.
Prince has always used metaphors, imagery and innuendos in his lyrics. To me, it doesn't make any sense to call "another guy" a supposedly common lover.
I never cared I never was the kind to make a fuss When he was there Sleepin' in between the two of us
... means the presence of the rival is not physical, or at least it's not a simultaneous physical presence. "in between" could mean that the rival jumped in her sheets every time Prince wasn't around. It's the same subject of "Irresistible Bitch" and many other do-wrong woman songs in his repertoire. Prince only tolerate the presence of a lover because he's mad about the girl. He lets her fool around.
If this was really about a trio, I don't think it would be called When U Were Mine. But that's open to controversy, and that's one of the reasons it's such a great song.
That's a bit of a biggoted, paranoid outlook. What does it matter anyway?
Hamburger, Hot Dog, Root Beer, Pussy |
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Reply #13 posted 03/22/17 1:40pm
bonatoc |
I knew somebody would come up with a suspicion of homophobia. Calling moi, a bigot? If you only knew... You're the one who comes out as paranoid.
That's not my point, I'm just discussing the song's lyrics. These lines are cryptic enough to be discussed — without judgement. I think the threesome take on it is pretty interesting actually. I just don't think this is what Prince meant, that's all (on the other hand, "Anna Stesia"’s intro can also be interpreted as a bisexual statement, so who knows?).
But if he was, then it definitely places these lyrics amongst the very best double entendre he ever wrote. The quality of the writing is all I'm about. It matters because it's the thread's subject. You can lower your rainbow flag now (oh no, I did it again!). [Edited 3/22/17 13:41pm] The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams |
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Reply #14 posted 03/22/17 5:16pm
Iamtheorg |
bonatoc said:
I don't want to offend anyone, but I think the threesome point of view only exist in homosexual or bisexual journalists minds, who'd like to think Prince embraced their lifestyle.
Prince has always used metaphors, imagery and innuendos in his lyrics. To me, it doesn't make any sense to call "another guy" a supposedly common lover.
I never cared I never was the kind to make a fuss When he was there Sleepin' in between the two of us
... means the presence of the rival is not physical, or at least it's not a simultaneous physical presence. "in between" could mean that the rival jumped in her sheets every time Prince wasn't around. It's the same subject of "Irresistible Bitch" and many other do-wrong woman songs in his repertoire. Prince only tolerate the presence of a lover because he's mad about the girl. He lets her fool around.
If this was really about a trio, I don't think it would be called When U Were Mine. But that's open to controversy, and that's one of the reasons it's such a great song.
Dude. It wasnt meaning he was involved in threesomes. It meant that his love was so deep he let her do what she wanted even fuck someone else..in their bed..with him there. That's how much he gave to her because he loved her so much..that he would allow even THAT. She always dogged him out evn with all he gave and put up with with her. Not that he was involved with the dude in any way.
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Reply #15 posted 03/22/17 8:25pm
gandorb
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I am not sure about where the detour on the threesome issue came from, as the Op didn't mention it nor do any of the initial posts. Any way, it is impossible for me to list any song as my one favorite prince song. He has so many outstanding ones. However, it definitely one of my favorites for several years! |
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Reply #16 posted 03/22/17 10:50pm
CocoRock |
bluegangsta said:
CocoRock said:
Some of you MF's apparently have no idea what the word 'controversial' means.
I know right? If only Prince wrote a song with some examples of what the word means...
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Reply #17 posted 03/23/17 3:08am
RicoN |
bonatoc said:
I knew somebody would come up with a suspicion of homophobia. Calling moi, a bigot? If you only knew... You're the one who comes out as paranoid.
That's not my point, I'm just discussing the song's lyrics. These lines are cryptic enough to be discussed — without judgement. I think the threesome take on it is pretty interesting actually. I just don't think this is what Prince meant, that's all (on the other hand, "Anna Stesia"’s intro can also be interpreted as a bisexual statement, so who knows?).
But if he was, then it definitely places these lyrics amongst the very best double entendre he ever wrote. The quality of the writing is all I'm about. It matters because it's the thread's subject. You can lower your rainbow flag now (oh no, I did it again!).
[Edited 3/22/17 13:41pm]
Paranoid is thinking there's some gay mafia of music journalists trying to turn record reviews into homosexual propaganda.
Hamburger, Hot Dog, Root Beer, Pussy |
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Reply #18 posted 03/23/17 5:22am
bonatoc |
RicoN said:
bonatoc said:
I knew somebody would come up with a suspicion of homophobia. Calling moi, a bigot? If you only knew... You're the one who comes out as paranoid.
That's not my point, I'm just discussing the song's lyrics. These lines are cryptic enough to be discussed — without judgement. I think the threesome take on it is pretty interesting actually. I just don't think this is what Prince meant, that's all (on the other hand, "Anna Stesia"’s intro can also be interpreted as a bisexual statement, so who knows?).
But if he was, then it definitely places these lyrics amongst the very best double entendre he ever wrote. The quality of the writing is all I'm about. It matters because it's the thread's subject. You can lower your rainbow flag now (oh no, I did it again!).
[Edited 3/22/17 13:41pm]
Paranoid is thinking there's some gay mafia of music journalists trying to turn record reviews into homosexual propaganda.
When did I suggest what you're saying?
OK, I admit "only exist in..." was a poor choice for an intro.
I wanted to say it's an interesting point of view, even if I don't share it because of my personal interpretation, which is of course debatable. I thought we were discussing the song, and well, it just so happens there's a lyric line which has been taken litteraly by some. They could be right, but I think it's a figure of speech, that's all.
Anyway, the controversial pitchfork review has been debated here: http://prince.org/msg/7/419370
[Edited 3/23/17 6:01am] The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams |
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