PeteSilas said:

morningsong said:

Suppressing information and spreading wrong information are two different things. And in that case I can see why people were leery about revealing that, nobody knows what will trigger people to go off on the deep end, it's as simple as that. Why deal with death threats and all kinds of nuttiness just because you took a DNA test and people don't like the results?

Usually scientist are under tight scrutiny unlike a whole lot of other things but there are the stray ones that say and do some weird stuff. The information is out there even on YT with more reputable groups. Hey you can try Francis Collins as a start.

suppressing the truth is the same thing, scientists do it all the time when they find things that don't support their theories. you know there are bones in middle america that are hundreds of thousands of years old, at least that's how they were dated and that gets suppressed because it doesnt support the bering straight theory. Calling them 'theories" in the first place is a misnomer if they are so vindictive to anything that might go against what they believe. One other thing i do know is that i can tell by the way scientists talk whehter it's neil degrasse or bill nye (the science guy) they are only substituting science in the same place of religion, something that has all the answers and makes man god. Those guys can't even give a talk without dissing religion because that's their main competition and both have a lot of similarities.

Not every scientist substitutes science for faith, some have room for both. Which is why I directed you to Francis Collins.

morningsong said:

PeteSilas said:

suppressing the truth is the same thing, scientists do it all the time when they find things that don't support their theories. you know there are bones in middle america that are hundreds of thousands of years old, at least that's how they were dated and that gets suppressed because it doesnt support the bering straight theory. Calling them 'theories" in the first place is a misnomer if they are so vindictive to anything that might go against what they believe. One other thing i do know is that i can tell by the way scientists talk whehter it's neil degrasse or bill nye (the science guy) they are only substituting science in the same place of religion, something that has all the answers and makes man god. Those guys can't even give a talk without dissing religion because that's their main competition and both have a lot of similarities.

Not every scientist substitutes science for faith, some have room for both. Which is why I directed you to Francis Collins.

yes, i know but they do all have a godlike arrogance. I'm not particularly religious myself, but i try to be humble about what i do not know. I grew up around toxic religious people and when i see some of these scientists they remind me of them. Not that I don't or won't listen, i enjoy listening to some of their lectures and they do have a lot of good stuff to say. I just hate the arrogance.

PeteSilas said:

Francis Sellers Collins (born April 14, 1950) is an American physician-geneticist noted for his discoveries of disease genes and his leadership of the Human Genome Project. He is director of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in Bethesda, Maryland, USA.

Collins also has written a number of books on science, medicine, and religion, including the New York Times bestseller, The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief.

After leaving the helm of NHGRI and before becoming director of the NIH, he founded and served as president of The BioLogos Foundation, which promotes discourse on the relationship between science and religion and advocates the perspective that belief in Christianity can be reconciled with acceptance of evolution and science, especially through the advancement of evolutionary creation.[3] In 2009 Pope Benedict XVI appointed Collins to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/...38616.html
This is a post I came across a while back and have been meaning to post. According g to this his roots were in north west Louisiana. My dad's family is from Webster Parish which is mentioned in the article. North Louisiana is much different than the south but maybe they are becoming more similar. I am in Baton Rouge. I've guess he grew up hearing y'all because it was certainly a part of his vocabulary. I've sent LPB an email asking them to do something on Prince's heritage but no response. Anybody else want to request?? I've been curious about any Louisiana people on the org. I often feel alone in BR. Know there are fans in New Orleans. Typed this on my iPhone! Not a smart move. Hope it makes sense.

ceilidh said:

http://m.huffpost.com/us/...38616.html This is a post I came across a while back and have been meaning to post. According g to this his roots were in north west Louisiana. My dad's family is from Webster Parish which is mentioned in the article. North Louisiana is much different than the south but maybe they are becoming more similar. I am in Baton Rouge. I've guess he grew up hearing y'all because it was certainly a part of his vocabulary. I've sent LPB an email asking them to do something on Prince's heritage but no response. Anybody else want to request?? I've been curious about any Louisiana people on the org. I often feel alone in BR. Know there are fans in New Orleans. Typed this on my iPhone! Not a smart move. Hope it makes sense.

There does seem to be quite a few of us. (Even though I'm in NY).

ceilidh said:

http://m.huffpost.com/us/...38616.html This is a post I came across a while back and have been meaning to post. According g to this his roots were in north west Louisiana. My dad's family is from Webster Parish which is mentioned in the article. North Louisiana is much different than the south but maybe they are becoming more similar. I am in Baton Rouge. I've guess he grew up hearing y'all because it was certainly a part of his vocabulary. I've sent LPB an email asking them to do something on Prince's heritage but no response. Anybody else want to request?? I've been curious about any Louisiana people on the org. I often feel alone in BR. Know there are fans in New Orleans. Typed this on my iPhone! Not a smart move. Hope it makes sense.

Thank you for sharing this very informative article.

LBrent said:

ceilidh said:

http://m.huffpost.com/us/...38616.html This is a post I came across a while back and have been meaning to post. According g to this his roots were in north west Louisiana. My dad's family is from Webster Parish which is mentioned in the article. North Louisiana is much different than the south but maybe they are becoming more similar. I am in Baton Rouge. I've guess he grew up hearing y'all because it was certainly a part of his vocabulary. I've sent LPB an email asking them to do something on Prince's heritage but no response. Anybody else want to request?? I've been curious about any Louisiana people on the org. I often feel alone in BR. Know there are fans in New Orleans. Typed this on my iPhone! Not a smart move. Hope it makes sense.

There does seem to be quite a few of us. (Even though I'm in NY).

I am currently visiting family in Baton Rouge, which is where I was born, raised, first got into Prince, and still visit very often. You are not alone. Went to the Superdome to see the Purple Rain tour.

gandorb said:

ceilidh said:

Thanks Gandorb and LBrent. When I first read the Huffington post article I was shocked. I told my friends and the relatives in north La and they had no idea. For people unfamiliar with this part of the state, it is very rural with very small towns. It is also very Baptist.

LBrent said:

laytonian said:

gandorb said: . Okay, y'all. My family lived in Nola for a few years and we spent the winter of 2009 in Baton Rouge. Please adopt me LOL

Lawd, s'ok...

Just bring a jar of file' for the gumbo and a bottle of hot sauce for the dirty rice and the beans & rice to the family reunion.

My maternal grandmother's family's from Algiers, NOLA and Baton Rouge and they usually mix the red and pinto beans, cook em to a pulp and mash em sorta like Mexican refried beans consistancy. I dunno why they mix the beans or who started doing it but maybe they ran out of red and substituted pinto and liked it? Or maybe the idea of mixing of the beans comes from the Carribean side of the family? I just thought everyone did that.

It might just be a family thing, like our family gumbo which isn't that really thick stew-like gumbo. And we put chicken livers in our dirty rice, not ground beef. And chicken livers and sage sausage and oysters in our cornbread turkey stuffing cooked under a spatchcocked turkey so the drippings get into the stuffing as it cooks.

I dunno if that's Creole or just my crazy azzed family, but it's all yummy.

I need more coffee.

As far as Red Beans & Rice goes, mixing beans is not typical. Red beans (preferably Camellia brand) are the norm. It's on every restaurant menu on Mondays starting our day of the week food calendar in NOLA. For yankees, Red beans are light red kidney beans as opposed to the dark red used in "chili" recipes.

-

Some people take a portion of the beans out, smash them and put them back in to make them more creamy. Some people don't. The best Gumbo is ALWAYS your folks Gumbo, of course.

ceilidh said:

ceilidh said: Thanks Gandorb and LBrent. When I first read the Huffington post article I was shocked. I told my friends and the relatives in north La and they had no idea. For people unfamiliar with this part of the state, it is very rural with very small towns. It is also very Baptist.

It makes perfect sense. At his core, Prince was a "country" boy. It was in his speech. And, even his straight-haired "pimp" persona was "country." He even tended to surround himself with "country" (southern) NPG bandmates, like Shelby, Mr. (Morris) Hayes, Adrian Crutchfield, Maceo Parker, John Blackwell, Tamar, etc.

PeteSilas said:

Also, I think many people here do make a good point about just being proud of being what you are, lots of black people try to claim indian when it's obvious they are black. Micki Free is obviously black in my mind, I watched his Vlad interview and he talks about being Indian and finally let's slip the word "mulatto". What's wrong with being black, I guess some people grew up around racists. I knew a guy who said he was "white and Indian" I said "what else"? cuz i knew damn well he wasn't no half-breed like me, He put his head down and mumbled "black". Pathetic.

That how those stories go. Sometimes black people also claimed Indian because they don't want to admit the fact some of the racial mixture is result of painful interaction between europeans and black like raped of black slaves/black women. I heard stories of this. Some white people also claimed Indian too because it is better to say that than admitting they might have a great-great black grandma ancestor which is very obviously at times. I knew a few white people had a black ancestor through a genetic test.

But yeah since I don't believe the one drop rule (it created by racists for perserving the white race), I always thought Prince was a multiracial man who identified as black because that how society perceived him. Outside US, that mentally ill one drop rule doesn't play.

FlyOnTheWall said:

ceilidh said:

ceilidh said: Thanks Gandorb and LBrent. When I first read the Huffington post article I was shocked. I told my friends and the relatives in north La and they had no idea. For people unfamiliar with this part of the state, it is very rural with very small towns. It is also very Baptist.

It makes perfect sense. At his core, Prince was a "country" boy. It was in his speech. And, even his straight-haired "pimp" persona was "country." He even tended to surround himself with "country" (southern) NPG bandmates, like Shelby, Mr. (Morris) Hayes, Adrian Crutchfield, Maceo Parker, John Blackwell, Tamar, etc.

True dat, Fly!

purplepoppy said:

LBrent said:

Lawd, s'ok...

Just bring a jar of file' for the gumbo and a bottle of hot sauce for the dirty rice and the beans & rice to the family reunion.

My maternal grandmother's family's from Algiers, NOLA and Baton Rouge and they usually mix the red and pinto beans, cook em to a pulp and mash em sorta like Mexican refried beans consistancy. I dunno why they mix the beans or who started doing it but maybe they ran out of red and substituted pinto and liked it? Or maybe the idea of mixing of the beans comes from the Carribean side of the family? I just thought everyone did that.

It might just be a family thing, like our family gumbo which isn't that really thick stew-like gumbo. And we put chicken livers in our dirty rice, not ground beef. And chicken livers and sage sausage and oysters in our cornbread turkey stuffing cooked under a spatchcocked turkey so the drippings get into the stuffing as it cooks.

I dunno if that's Creole or just my crazy azzed family, but it's all yummy.

I need more coffee.

As far as Red Beans & Rice goes, mixing beans is not typical. Red beans (preferably Camellia brand) are the norm. It's on every restaurant menu on Mondays starting our day of the week food calendar in NOLA. For yankees, Red beans are light red kidney beans as opposed to the dark red used in "chili" recipes.

-

Some people take a portion of the beans out, smash them and put them back in to make them more creamy. Some people don't. The best Gumbo is ALWAYS your folks Gumbo, of course.

LMAO

I called my older cousin to ask her about the beans and rice (my Mom passed away at 97 right after P or I'd have aasked her).

She was like, "Dafuq??? Ain't nobody mixing red beans and pinto beans, what are you talking about???"

When I insisted I'd seen my Mom mix 2 different beans in the beans and rice she said it was probably just the big kidney beans and the smaller ones.

I wouldn't have known that cuz I don't cook beans and rice often and when I do I just make em with red beans.

She said the same thing FlyOnTheWall said, pinto beans are served with cornbread (I don't like the texture of cornbread and don't eat it unless it's made into turkey stuffing so I didn't know that).

So, my family isn't as weird as I thought...Well, they are, but apparently not with the beans and rice recipe. Lol

Mystery solved, sorry for the accidental misinformation, y'all.

LBrent said:

purplepoppy said:

As far as Red Beans & Rice goes, mixing beans is not typical. Red beans (preferably Camellia brand) are the norm. It's on every restaurant menu on Mondays starting our day of the week food calendar in NOLA. For yankees, Red beans are light red kidney beans as opposed to the dark red used in "chili" recipes.

-

Some people take a portion of the beans out, smash them and put them back in to make them more creamy. Some people don't. The best Gumbo is ALWAYS your folks Gumbo, of course.

LMAO

I called my older cousin to ask her about the beans and rice (my Mom passed away at 97 right after P or I'd have aasked her).

She was like, "Dafuq??? Ain't nobody mixing red beans and pinto beans, what are you talking about???"

When I insisted I'd seen my Mom mix 2 different beans in the beans and rice she said it was probably just the big kidney beans and the smaller ones.

I wouldn't have known that cuz I don't cook beans and rice often and when I do I just make em with red beans.

She said the same thing FlyOnTheWall said, pinto beans are served with cornbread (I don't like the texture of cornbread and don't eat it unless it's made into turkey stuffing so I didn't know that).

So, my family isn't as weird as I thought...Well, they are, but apparently not with the beans and rice recipe. Lol

Mystery solved, sorry for the accidental misinformation, y'all.

I your stories, L!!

FlyOnTheWall said:

LBrent said:

LMAO

I called my older cousin to ask her about the beans and rice (my Mom passed away at 97 right after P or I'd have aasked her).

She was like, "Dafuq??? Ain't nobody mixing red beans and pinto beans, what are you talking about???"

When I insisted I'd seen my Mom mix 2 different beans in the beans and rice she said it was probably just the big kidney beans and the smaller ones.

I wouldn't have known that cuz I don't cook beans and rice often and when I do I just make em with red beans.

She said the same thing FlyOnTheWall said, pinto beans are served with cornbread (I don't like the texture of cornbread and don't eat it unless it's made into turkey stuffing so I didn't know that).

So, my family isn't as weird as I thought...Well, they are, but apparently not with the beans and rice recipe. Lol

Mystery solved, sorry for the accidental misinformation, y'all.

I your stories, L!!

Hey, at least y'all can see that I'm not the type to not own up to being spectacularly wrong.

I guess that counts for something, no?

[Edited 3/18/17 17:19pm]

in the headline,


why in heaven can't the original poster spell "Louisianna roots" right???


OK, I am european, spelling awful myself, still it annoys me and, for the second time I am writing it here..




I need to see an edit to post number 1...

thedance said:

in the headline,


why in heaven can't the original poster spell "Louisianna roots" right???


OK, I am european, spelling awful myself, still it annoys me and, for the second time I am writing it here..

I need to see an edit to post number 1...

Yes, it bugs me too. And nobody here says Nawlins except for tourists.

LBrent said:

LBrent said:

Lawd, s'ok...

Just bring a jar of file' for the gumbo and a bottle of hot sauce for the dirty rice and the beans & rice to the family reunion.

My maternal grandmother's family's from Algiers, NOLA and Baton Rouge and they usually mix the red and pinto beans, cook em to a pulp and mash em sorta like Mexican refried beans consistancy. I dunno why they mix the beans or who started doing it but maybe they ran out of red and substituted pinto and liked it? Or maybe the idea of mixing of the beans comes from the Carribean side of the family? I just thought everyone did that.

It might just be a family thing, like our family gumbo which isn't that really thick stew-like gumbo. And we put chicken livers in our dirty rice, not ground beef. And chicken livers and sage sausage and oysters in our cornbread turkey stuffing cooked under a spatchcocked turkey so the drippings get into the stuffing as it cooks.

I dunno if that's Creole or just my crazy azzed family, but it's all yummy.

I need more coffee.

LMAO

I called my older cousin to ask her about the beans and rice (my Mom passed away at 97 right after P or I'd have aasked her).

She was like, "Dafuq??? Ain't nobody mixing red beans and pinto beans, what are you talking about???"

When I insisted I'd seen my Mom mix 2 different beans in the beans and rice she said it was probably just the big kidney beans and the smaller ones.

I wouldn't have known that cuz I don't cook beans and rice often and when I do I just make em with red beans.

She said the same thing FlyOnTheWall said, pinto beans are served with cornbread (I don't like the texture of cornbread and don't eat it unless it's made into turkey stuffing so I didn't know that).

So, my family isn't as weird as I thought...Well, they are, but apparently not with the beans and rice recipe. Lol

Mystery solved, sorry for the accidental misinformation, y'all.

ur posts always make me kinda hungry

lemoncrush19 said:

LBrent said:

LMAO

I called my older cousin to ask her about the beans and rice (my Mom passed away at 97 right after P or I'd have aasked her).

She was like, "Dafuq??? Ain't nobody mixing red beans and pinto beans, what are you talking about???"

When I insisted I'd seen my Mom mix 2 different beans in the beans and rice she said it was probably just the big kidney beans and the smaller ones.

I wouldn't have known that cuz I don't cook beans and rice often and when I do I just make em with red beans.

She said the same thing FlyOnTheWall said, pinto beans are served with cornbread (I don't like the texture of cornbread and don't eat it unless it's made into turkey stuffing so I didn't know that).

So, my family isn't as weird as I thought...Well, they are, but apparently not with the beans and rice recipe. Lol

Mystery solved, sorry for the accidental misinformation, y'all.

ur posts always make me kinda hungry

thedance said:

--Find a life. Can you read that?