Here is the thread:
http://prince.org/msg/7/430385
I don't know how much validity it has, it was part of the PP annonymous or after dark (?) thread. It could be fiction and made up. So don't hold me accountable for it or judge me.
Annistion is only 2 hours from me. Anyways, interested in how this will pan out. Wonder why Joshua waited so long to file a claim. | |
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According to an audio recording filed in Minnesota court Wednesday by the two half-brothers, one of the advisers to Bremer, Charles Koppelman, lent Jobu the roughly $2 million it needed to pay the estate to secure the rights to the show. The recording—a conversation between Mr. Koppelman and Jobu Chief Executive Vaughn Millette, which Mr. Millette had taped—was filed under seal in probate court by Prince half-brothers Omarr Baker and Alfred Jackson, and reviewed by The Wall Street Journal. The conversation suggests that Bremer Trust, a Minneapolis-area bank, was aware of Mr. Koppelman’s loan and may have breached its fiduciary duty, as the arrangement wasn’t disclosed, according to the filing. I wonder how they got the recording?
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
Joshua says he is 21 years old. Ive never heard this story about Lilly. [Edited 4/26/17 12:26pm] --/ I thought her name was Willow? There is also a story going around YouTube about a Judy and Robyn Power kept talking about a blond named Karen with this dude who even knows. . I know what has stuck out for me is that one of the wanna be children Taz did not get a test because she had one back in 2002 made me wonder how often he young people coming to him for DNA test. | |
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Laura, you may be right about the name. Over the last year, I have read so much stuff after a while, it gets blurry. If I am wrong, I stand corrected and did not mean to give out false info.
Robin Power did mention a lot of Prince's activity in the past. There was also a mention of an Alisha (spelling?), a spanish model that hung out at PP around the time, also from the PP/Lisptick alley rumors.
I am sure there were claims in the past that are not known to us. By claims, I mean children that thought they were Prince's offspring.
I would like to see how Joshua's claim turns out. | |
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nelcp777 said:
Laura, you may be right about the name. Over the last year, I have read so much stuff after a while, it gets blurry. If I am wrong, I stand corrected and did not mean to give out false info.
Robin Power did mention a lot of Prince's activity in the past. There was also a mention of an Alisha (spelling?), a spanish model that hung out at PP around the time, also from the PP/Lisptick alley rumors.
I am sure there were claims in the past that are not known to us. By claims, I mean children that thought they were Prince's offspring.
I would like to see how Joshua's claim turns out. No problem (lol) no one can keep them straight. The Alisha was the one that did not speak any English at all. | |
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That is what I heard about Alisa as well. I want to say Robin was the one who gave the details about her and the Lily/Willow person. There are so many offspring rumors, it is crazy.
Anyways, I am cautions on Joshua since he waited so long to make a claim. Stranger things do happen though. | |
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I don't get Prince's family at all. Tyka says on Facebook that she has nothing to do with PRNFamily website/social media accounts. The the PRNFamily twitter clarifies that these accounts are run by Omarr.
Omarr is free to have a Twitter account or whatever but why call it PRNFamily if he's the only one involved with it? It drives me nuts how fractured Prince's family is and how they all seem to be doing their own thing. Honestly if they could have all come together as one this estate mess and deciding of heirs would be over by now. Good grief. [Edited 4/26/17 14:18pm] Paisley Park is in your heart
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rogifan said: I don't get Prince's family at all. Tyka says on Facebook that she has nothing to do with PRNFamily website/social media accounts. The the PRNFamily twitter clarifies that these accounts are run by Omarr. Omarr is free to have a Twitter account or whatever but why call it PRNFamily if he's the only one involved with it? It drives me nuts how fractured Prince's family is and how they all seem to be doing their own thing. Honestly if they could have all come together as one this estate mess and deciding of heirs would be over by now. Good grief. [Edited 4/26/17 14:18pm] The family has nothing to do with deciding who the heirs are going to be. Maybe Tyka just does not want to be bothered with running the Twitter. Both of them were at the party and think about it the other sibs have Londell representing them. | |
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Rumor has it that Prince did, in fact have a Will, and it might be in Canada. If this was already posted, my apologies. . Halperin said at the time that there was speculation that the will could be in Canada. Prince formerly owned a home in Toronto, and according to Halperin, the musician had a relationship with a woman from Montreal with whom he was enamored. . Halperin added that he had been told there are friends and family members of the musician who could have an interest in concealing the will, as they might not have benefited from it. . http://www.thewrap.com/pr...ill-video/
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laurarichardson said: rogifan said: I don't get Prince's family at all. Tyka says on Facebook that she has nothing to do with PRNFamily website/social media accounts. The the PRNFamily twitter clarifies that these accounts are run by Omarr. Omarr is free to have a Twitter account or whatever but why call it PRNFamily if he's the only one involved with it? It drives me nuts how fractured Prince's family is and how they all seem to be doing their own thing. Honestly if they could have all come together as one this estate mess and deciding of heirs would be over by now. Good grief. [Edited 4/26/17 14:18pm] The family has nothing to do with deciding who the heirs are going to be. Maybe Tyka just does not want to be bothered with running the Twitter. Both of them were at the party and think about it the other sibs have Londell representing them. Again I said I wish the family was on the same page. Part of the reason every thing is a mess is because the family is messed up. People can hate Bremar for bringing someone like Londell on board but they were also responsible for getting Grace;and to oversee Paisley Park and thank God they did. That's one thing that seems to be working. More tour guides are being added, will be open 6 days a week in a month or so and more events are planned. Paisley Park is in your heart
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rogifan said: laurarichardson said: The family has nothing to do with deciding who the heirs are going to be. Maybe Tyka just does not want to be bothered with running the Twitter. Both of them were at the party and think about it the other sibs have Londell representing them. Again I said I wish the family was on the same page. Part of the reason every thing is a mess is because the family is messed up. People can hate Bremar for bringing someone like Londell on board but they were also responsible for getting Grace;and to oversee Paisley Park and thank God they did. That's one thing that seems to be working. More tour guides are being added, will be open 6 days a week in a month or so and more events are planned. --I thougt the Graceland people came to Bremer with the idea? Do you realize the mess Bremer and company have caused? The fact that the other sibs are still taking advice from Londell is nuts. [Edited 4/26/17 17:19pm] | |
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I don't think P's family will ever see eye-to-eye.
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laurarichardson said: rogifan said: Again I said I wish the family was on the same page. Part of the reason every thing is a mess is because the family is messed up. People can hate Bremar for bringing someone like Londell on board but they were also responsible for getting Grace;and to oversee Paisley Park and thank God they did. That's one thing that seems to be working. More tour guides are being added, will be open 6 days a week in a month or so and more events are planned. --I thougt the Graceland people came to Bremer with the idea? Do you realize the mess Bremer and company have caused? The fact that the other sibs are still taking advice from Londell is nuts. [Edited 4/26/17 17:19pm] Outside of Londell what mess has Bremar caused? And whose idea was it for them to be involved with the estate in the first place? I still would like to know what happened to the US Bank Stadium tribute concert. There was a press release on it with quotes from Tyka. Why did a press release come out if they didn't have the venue secured? And what artists did they have lined up to play this large stadium? No way would NPG band members have filled a 50,000 seat stadium. Paisley Park is in your heart
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cloveringold85 said: I don't think P's family will ever see eye-to-eye.
Which is sad because at some point they will be the ones that have to make decisions not a bank. I hope they leave decisions about PP to Graceland and musical decisions to the new entertainment advisor that was hired. I don't trust that the family knows what the hell they're doing. Paisley Park is in your heart
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This is true....Graceland came to them.
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rogifan said: laurarichardson said: --I thougt the Graceland people came to Bremer with the idea? Do you realize the mess Bremer and company have caused? The fact that the other sibs are still taking advice from Londell is nuts. [Edited 4/26/17 17:19pm] Outside of Londell what mess has Bremar caused? And whose idea was it for them to be involved with the estate in the first place? I still would like to know what happened to the US Bank Stadium tribute concert. There was a press release on it with quotes from Tyka. Why did a press release come out if they didn't have the venue secured? And what artists did they have lined up to play this large stadium? No way would NPG band members have filled a 50,000 seat stadium. ---Please go to the estate thread and read about the screw ups and the courts docs with the families complaints about Breamer and company which has now all come out in the public. McMillian and Koppleman were in this to get commissions for themselves first and foremost with Breamer allowing to do as they pleased. The proof is there and they are not around anymore for a reason. | |
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laurarichardson said: rogifan said: Outside of Londell what mess has Bremar caused? And whose idea was it for them to be involved with the estate in the first place? I still would like to know what happened to the US Bank Stadium tribute concert. There was a press release on it with quotes from Tyka. Why did a press release come out if they didn't have the venue secured? And what artists did they have lined up to play this large stadium? No way would NPG band members have filled a 50,000 seat stadium. ---Please go to the estate thread and read about the screw ups and the courts docs with the families complaints about Breamer and company which has now all come out in the public. McMillian and Koppleman were in this to get commissions for themselves first and foremost with Breamer allowing to do as they pleased. The proof is there and they are not around anymore for a reason. What does that have to do with the press release around a US Bank Stadium tribute concert. A press release had quotes from Tyka. Who was responsible for that and why didn't it ever happen? Why did Tyka allow a press release to go out when they didn't even have the stadium secured and no artists lined up? Paisley Park is in your heart
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rogifan said: laurarichardson said: ---Please go to the estate thread and read about the screw ups and the courts docs with the families complaints about Breamer and company which has now all come out in the public. McMillian and Koppleman were in this to get commissions for themselves first and foremost with Breamer allowing to do as they pleased. The proof is there and they are not around anymore for a reason. What does that have to do with the press release around a US Bank Stadium tribute concert. A press release had quotes from Tyka. Who was responsible for that and why didn't it ever happen? Why did Tyka allow a press release to go out when they didn't even have the stadium secured and no artists lined up? --If you read the article from yesterday it was Koppleman who lied to the promoter JoBu ( who the family did not want promoting the concert in the first place) about the proceeds going to charity which would have made the fees low. Koppleman and McMillian made the charity out to be Paisley which is not a non-profit. Jobu could not afford the fees and Kopplemem continued to tell everyone including the famil that all of these acts were going to be on the bill which of course was to get ticket sales. Jobu tried to back out since it was not going to be a charity event and Kopplemen ten threatened Jobu's businees even the guy's family some of this is now on tape. Breamer received complaints from the GSM and did nothing. If the family put out a press release it is because they were getting their if from Kopplemen. | |
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morningsong said:
According to an audio recording filed in Minnesota court Wednesday by the two half-brothers, one of the advisers to Bremer, Charles Koppelman, lent Jobu the roughly $2 million it needed to pay the estate to secure the rights to the show. The recording—a conversation between Mr. Koppelman and Jobu Chief Executive Vaughn Millette, which Mr. Millette had taped—was filed under seal in probate court by Prince half-brothers Omarr Baker and Alfred Jackson, and reviewed by The Wall Street Journal. The conversation suggests that Bremer Trust, a Minneapolis-area bank, was aware of Mr. Koppelman’s loan and may have breached its fiduciary duty, as the arrangement wasn’t disclosed, according to the filing. I wonder how they got the recording?
If I'm reading the above in bold correctly It says Millette had taped it and the half brothers of P filed it under seal in probate. | |
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Yup, iphone app recorded the conversation. Gotta love New Yrok, one party consent state. | |
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See article that outlines lawsuits due to this fiasco by Lonnie and Kopplecrook. I love how they have to throw in the lack of will business again as if that has anything to do with the fraud that was being done by these two asshats. All they had to do was find a promoter and contact the talent. ----- https://www.pollstar.com/news_article.aspx?ID=830664
Lawsuits Rain Over Prince Tribute
03:01 PM Wednesday 4/26/171 | | One year after Prince’s death, multiple disputes are being brought to a Minnesota court regarding the October concert tribute to Prince featuring Stevie Wonder and Chaka Khan.
Responsibility for the concert fell to the Bremer Trust, the court-approved administrator of the estate. Advisers L. Londell McMillan and Charles Koppelman made many of the moves to organize the event, the first of which was to hire New York-based promoter Joba Presents, which dropped out two months before the show and is now suing Bremer.
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laurarichardson said: rogifan said: What does that have to do with the press release around a US Bank Stadium tribute concert. A press release had quotes from Tyka. Who was responsible for that and why didn't it ever happen? Why did Tyka allow a press release to go out when they didn't even have the stadium secured and no artists lined up? --If you read the article from yesterday it was Koppleman who lied to the promoter JoBu ( who the family did not want promoting the concert in the first place) about the proceeds going to charity which would have made the fees low. Koppleman and McMillian made the charity out to be Paisley which is not a non-profit. Jobu could not afford the fees and Kopplemem continued to tell everyone including the famil that all of these acts were going to be on the bill which of course was to get ticket sales. Jobu tried to back out since it was not going to be a charity event and Kopplemen ten threatened Jobu's businees even the guy's family some of this is now on tape. Breamer received complaints from the GSM and did nothing. If the family put out a press release it is because they were getting their if from Kopplemen. And this was for US Bank Stadium? Londell and Koppelman promised Tyka they could secure and fill US Bank Stadium? Paisley Park is in your heart
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All she wants is money now. I don't think most of the heirs understand how extraordinarily complex resolution of the estate will be. There wasn't - apparently - tens of millions of dollars in the bank that could immediately be divided among the six and then they could go their merry ways. I don't think they cared about him, just what his hard work could give them. | |
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I am sure they did. They pretty much lied to everybody from the start instead of just working on getting the concert under way. No reason to use Jobu instead of Live Nation, no reason to lie and say the money was going to Paisley Park since PP is not a non-profit venture and no reason to loan Jobu the 2 million. The first thing you do when you go to a business is see if the company you are working with is to see if your partner is financially viable to inter into the venture in the first place.
This was about getting a commision just like the UMG deal. Not about doing what is best for the estate. I would love to hear what Kopplecrook is saying on that tape.
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It is Tyka and Omarr that brought the antics of Kopplemen and Lonnie to the attention of the courts. If Tyka wanted money she would have taken the 10 million dollar interest free loan from Lonnie about six months ago and maybe Lonnie could manage her singing career like Sharon.
Not sure why the other 3 keep getting a pass and I think after a year they know big checks are not going to becoming anytime soon.
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