ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

We now have another heir.

Joshua Essex states his mother and P had a 30 year

affair and he is his son.

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I don't think it will ever end.

PennyPurple said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

We now have another heir.

Joshua Essex states his mother and P had a 30 year

affair and he is his son.

[Edited 4/25/17 12:05pm]

I don't think it will ever end.

Don’t know about it ever ending, until things are settled probably not.

.

But it does make you wonder. How many of these mothers really did sleep with Prince? We’ll never know. They have to know DNA testing is accurate. These people are either totally crazy or really believe it.

1Sasha said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

We now have another heir.

Joshua Essex states his mother and P had a 30 year

affair and he is his son.

[Edited 4/25/17 12:05pm]

Just read that in my email. Dear God, will it ever stop?

I do not think it ever will and a person can come forward as long as a year after the heirs have been determined. I understand why the sibs want to go ahead and be determined the rightful heirs to quickly put a stop to this.

I have to think these people are mental or just do not care about embarrassing their moms. The test are accurate and it just looks bad

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Some sloppy reporting going on.
Neither John Mayer, Anita Baker,or Christina Aguilera performed at the October tribute.
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It is correct that they all cancelled beforehand. I also watched the entire thing via Periscope and can confirm they didn't sneak in.
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Why haven't they declared heirs yet? What are they waiting for?

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:

Not the WSJ but talking about the same stuff.

http://ampthemag.com/the-real/secret-recordings-prompt-new-charges-fraud-mismanagement-prince-case/

This article give a little more info than the WSJ. I am sad to say I am not shocked one bit.

McMillian came flying out of the woodwork to represent the estate and it made him suspect to me from the begining. This was a means to make money off of commisions from bad deals that have not benefited the estate. I hope law enforcement investigates these two. Beware of defending Prince associates without all the facts. Does anyone know if Lonnie and Koppleman have money in Jobu or why they picked this company?

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Almost exactly one year after the death of Prince, two of his siblings have returned to court claiming the trust in charge of a tribute concert breached its fiduciary commitment when it asked an obscure concert promoter to organize, with undisclosed ties to the trust, and promote a benefit concert to honor the pop star. According to the Wall Street Journal, the trust failed to disclose it had secretly loaned the promoter money and had a financial interest in a concert that took place in October at the Xcel Energy Center in Saint Paul, Minn. The sold-out show lasted four-and-a-half hours, and included performances from Stevie Wonder, Chaka Khan, John Mayer, Anita Baker, Christina Aguilera, Jessie J and Tori Kelly.

As a result, in January, two of Prince’s heirs (sister Tyka Nelson and half-brother Omarr Baker) filed a lawsuit seeking $7 million for mismanaging profits from the October concert. Last week, a new development brought the latest chapter of intrigue in the case — Prince’s family members introduced a secretly-taped recording into court that showed executives with Bremer Trust, which had been appointed as the temporary administrator of the musician’s estate, had secretly loaned Jobu Presents $2 million to secure the rights for the concert, according to the WSJ. Those two executives — L. Londell McMillan and Charles Koppelman — allegedly steered the contract to the Jobu Presents, a company that had only been formed a few months prior.

Prince’s family members have brought forth a recording of a conversation between Koppelman and Jobu Chief Executive Vaughn Millette with the two discussing the loan. The recording, that Millette taped, was filed under seal in probate court by Baker and Jackson, and reviewed by the Wall Street Journal. On the tape, Millette alleges that Kopppelman forced him into taking the $2 million loan to pay the estate, according to the WSJ.

The new filing states, “Now it has become clear that the agreement with Jobu Presents was tainted by an undisclosed conflict of interest.”

The recording also suggests that Bremer Trust, a Minneapolis-area bank, breached fiduciary duty since it was aware of the Koppelman’s loan and failed to disclose the agreement..

On the recording, a voice attributed to Koppelman reportedly said he wanted his money back from Millette and asserted “you stole $2 million from me.” Koppelman goes on to threaten Millette’s reputation and finances.

WSJ reports that Koppelman said, “I loaned you the money in good faith, and you paid me by just being a total dick.” He adds, “So now that I don’t care about anything other than getting our money back, it’s going to cost you anything and everything that you have: Your reputation, any money you have, any money your family has. I’m just going to go get it now.”

Prince’s heirs have urged the court not to release Bremer from liability until they can ascertain whether or not the trust violated its fiduciary duty, even though Comerica Bank & Trust took over administrator duties for the estate in January.

Jobu backed out of the agreement on Aug. 24, just months prior to the show and demanded its money back plus damages, which Bremer returned by September. But, according to certain siblings, Jobu still paid McMillan a commission that Bremer never attempted to recoup. Koppelman was also reportedly owed a 10 percent commission on advance payment for the event. In addition, some of Prince’s heirs alleged that the concert didn’t make as much money as it could have because of a decision to use Jobu over other promoters such as Live Nation. McMillan went on to organize the show himself, earning a $116,500 commission.

Bremer is also currently facing suspicion of mismanagement over the fact that they signed a $30 million licensing deal with Universal Music Group. The deal may be void due to concerns that those recordings may already be licensed to a competitor.

If nothing else it has the link to the WSJ article, maybe the performers are wrong, who cares all that tribute concert is over, it's the aftermath we're looking at.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/prince-tribute-concert-at-center-of-new-dispute-1492717640?emailToken=JRrydPtzYHqXhtAyaswkzlwuZaRNF/WITE7LITXBPU7HuWbJ5Ou9gq44gce6uyaoSwN86s9B428kXSDNjS8zAJ7LxOcgzwv8

rogifan said:

-/The sibs have asked again and I think court date is in May.

morningsong said:

If nothing else it has the link to the WSJ article, maybe the performers are wrong, who cares all that tribute concert is over, it's the aftermath we're looking at.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/prince-tribute-concert-at-center-of-new-dispute-1492717640?emailToken=JRrydPtzYHqXhtAyaswkzlwuZaRNF/WITE7LITXBPU7HuWbJ5Ou9gq44gce6uyaoSwN86s9B428kXSDNjS8zAJ7LxOcgzwv8

I care about the performers being wrong in the article because it makes me distrust

news articles. If they get something so simple wrong then what else is wrong in the article?

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

Why haven't they declared heirs yet? What are they waiting for?

-/The sibs have asked again and I think court date is in May.

The Judge said he wanted to wait until the Appellate Court finished with the Appeals.

The non excluded heirs requested a Court date in May but I havent seen an Order from

the Judge scheduling it for May. Nor is it at the top of the web site where they usually

list scheduled court hearings.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

It seems to match up the redacted info in the court docs. Someone is leaking info to the WSJ as this what third time that got the scoop.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

morningsong said:

If nothing else it has the link to the WSJ article, maybe the performers are wrong, who cares all that tribute concert is over, it's the aftermath we're looking at.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/prince-tribute-concert-at-center-of-new-dispute-1492717640?emailToken=JRrydPtzYHqXhtAyaswkzlwuZaRNF/WITE7LITXBPU7HuWbJ5Ou9gq44gce6uyaoSwN86s9B428kXSDNjS8zAJ7LxOcgzwv8

I care about the performers being wrong in the article because it makes me distrust

news articles. If they get something so simple wrong then what else is wrong in the article?

That's cool but the link to the original WSJ article, which does not mention any of the acts at the tribute was imbedded 2x in the article, you didn't trust that?

DD55 said:

IRS form 990-PF, tax year 2007, tax ID # 41-1859729, address 7801 Audubon Rd, Chanhassen, MN Phone 952-470-2409. Kirk President, Prince Director. Contributions that year: P R Nelson $64,099, Bria Valente $40,000, Paisley Park Enterprises $28,354. In the same filing they file for 8868 for an extension for tax year 2008.

Okay, I'm sorry but Lotusflow3r wasn't released until 2009. Was Bria already a rich person? I'm just asking.

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

Just read that in my email. Dear God, will it ever stop?

I do not think it ever will and a person can come forward as long as a year after the heirs have been determined. I understand why the sibs want to go ahead and be determined the rightful heirs to quickly put a stop to this.

I have to think these people are mental or just do not care about embarrassing their moms. The test are accurate and it just looks bad

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I thought the judge already determined who the heirs are . It was done last week, omarr, tyka, alfred, and one more , a female, I forgot her name. only 5 of them. On the other hand I thought the filing date for paternity test has passed. I dont know why the judge dont just close that. I dont belived Prince slept with all thos women....

lollipop2 said:

laurarichardson said:

I do not think it ever will and a person can come forward as long as a year after the heirs have been determined. I understand why the sibs want to go ahead and be determined the rightful heirs to quickly put a stop to this.

I have to think these people are mental or just do not care about embarrassing their moms. The test are accurate and it just looks bad

[Edited 4/25/17 12:35pm]

I thought the judge already determined who the heirs are . It was done last week, omarr, tyka, alfred, and one more , a female, I forgot her name. only 5 of them. On the other hand I thought the filing date for paternity test has passed. I dont know why the judge dont just close that. I dont belived Prince slept with all thos women....

No the heirs haven't been determined yet.

roxy831 said:

DD55 said:

IRS form 990-PF, tax year 2007, tax ID # 41-1859729, address 7801 Audubon Rd, Chanhassen, MN Phone 952-470-2409. Kirk President, Prince Director. Contributions that year: P R Nelson $64,099, Bria Valente $40,000, Paisley Park Enterprises $28,354. In the same filing they file for 8868 for an extension for tax year 2008.

Okay, I'm sorry but Lotusflow3r wasn't released until 2009. Was Bria already a rich person? I'm just asking.

No idea. You can search for the document yourself, it's public info. I only copied what was on the IRS tax form that was filed.

lollipop2 said:

laurarichardson said:

I do not think it ever will and a person can come forward as long as a year after the heirs have been determined. I understand why the sibs want to go ahead and be determined the rightful heirs to quickly put a stop to this.

I have to think these people are mental or just do not care about embarrassing their moms. The test are accurate and it just looks bad

[Edited 4/25/17 12:35pm]

I thought the judge already determined who the heirs are . It was done last week, omarr, tyka, alfred, and one more , a female, I forgot her name. only 5 of them. On the other hand I thought the filing date for paternity test has passed. I dont know why the judge dont just close that. I dont belived Prince slept with all thos women....

Potential heirs have a year from the date the Judge determines the heirs to file a claim.

rogifan said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

We now have another heir.

Joshua Essex states his mother and P had a 30 year

affair and he is his son.

[Edited 4/25/17 12:05pm]

Why haven't they declared heirs yet? What are they waiting for?

DD55 said:

Did a little searching on this dude. We will see he is going to be asked to show some proof of a 30 relationship before they will let him have a test. Interesting is that he would be the same age as Ahmir.

DD55 said:

--The contributions are strange and the disturbutments on others are odd.

DD55 said:

rogifan said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: Why haven't they declared heirs yet? What are they waiting for?

We may think the person is crazy, they most probably are or at the very least misinformed. But at the same time, it’s fascinating … what if it’s true and he is a child of P? Wow, wouldn’t that throw everything and everybody in a tizzy.

I know six people who will not be happy at all if this is true ...

laurarichardson said:

DD55 said:

No idea. You can search for the document yourself, it's public info. I only copied what was on the IRS tax form that was filed.

--The contributions are strange and the disturbutments on others are odd.

This is not based on any first hand knowledge, just my personal general observation, which may be totally off the mark. Here goes. I think by 2007 he was …. reevaluating the JW conversion and by giving the bulk of the money to JW from L4OA chanties he essentially liquidated the charity of funds sans property. At that point, He was beginning to become more involved/interested in political events and since L4OA was a charity and tax filings were public information, I think he decided to keep his giving / donations private and not through a tax exempt organization where returns were public information. Again that is only my opinion.

typo corrected

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DD55 said:

None of this is fascinating to me. It's all sad and in some cases pathetic.

rogifan said:

DD55 said:

We may think the person is crazy, they most probably are or at the very least misinformed. But at the same time, it’s fascinating … what if it’s true and he is a child of P? Wow, wouldn’t that throw everything and everybody in a tizzy.

None of this is fascinating to me. It's all sad and in some cases pathetic.

Well, there are some people who just enjoy catering to a certain portion of the fanbase that'll follow anyone that says they have any connection to Prince. Attention's attention, some need it more than others. Has nothing to do with the Prince estate and basically a waste of legal time, but nothing can be done except to follow protcols. Then again maybe somebody is hoping that DNA testing is like a crap shoot, that they might randomly have the same genetic makeup as Prince or something.

morningsong said:

And you have those who are hoping it turns out he had a secret child. Or those who can't stand his siblings and would love nothing more than if the Estate went to some secret love child instead.

rogifan said:

morningsong said:

Well, there are some people who just enjoy catering to a certain portion of the fanbase that'll follow anyone that says they have any connection to Prince. Attention's attention, some need it more than others. Has nothing to do with the Prince estate and basically a waste of legal time, but nothing can be done except to follow protcols. Then again maybe somebody is hoping that DNA testing is like a crap shoot, that they might randomly have the same genetic makeup as Prince or something.

And you have those who are hoping it turns out he had a secret child. Or those who can't stand his siblings and would love nothing more than if the Estate went to some secret love child instead.

I gave up on the secret child long ago. I'm trippin' on folks who know dang well he wasn't their daddy but they keep putting their names out there for some reason, something's got to be motivating them.

morningsong said:

Someone is talking...
Wow to read what Koppelman said
Do think they are all only interested in lining their pockets and that article kinda proves it

laurarichardson said:

DD55 said:

We may think the person is crazy, they most probably are or at the very least misinformed. But at the same time, it’s fascinating … what if it’s true and he is a child of P? Wow, wouldn’t that throw everything and everybody in a tizzy.

Did a little searching on this dude. We will see he is going to be asked to show some proof of a 30 relationship before they will let him have a test. Interesting is that he would be the same age as Ahmir.

What did your searching yield?

nelcp777 said:

Found a pic of young brother and a women I suspect to be his mom. Not sure she would be P's type but there have been rumors that he liked sisters just did not flaunt them in public. Like I said he is going to have to show proof that some relationship was going on for years before they will let him have a test.
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laurarichardson said:

nelcp777 said:

What did your searching yield?

Found a pic of young brother and a women I suspect to be his mom. Not sure she would be P's type but there have been rumors that he liked sisters just did not flaunt them in public. Like I said he is going to have to show proof that some relationship was going on for years before they will let him have a test. [Edited 4/26/17 12:20pm]

What would be crazy is if his mom's name was Lilly. There was a thread from back in the day that Prince hooked up with this chick named Lilly and knocked her up. It was around the time of GB.

nelcp777 said:

laurarichardson said:

nelcp777 said: Found a pic of young brother and a women I suspect to be his mom. Not sure she would be P's type but there have been rumors that he liked sisters just did not flaunt them in public. Like I said he is going to have to show proof that some relationship was going on for years before they will let him have a test. [Edited 4/26/17 12:20pm]

What would be crazy is if his mom's name was Lilly. There was a thread from back in the day that Prince hooked up with this chick named Lilly and knocked her up. It was around the time of GB.

Joshua says he is 21 years old.

Ive never heard this story about Lilly.

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