MMJas said:

1Sasha said:

LR, you have made some valid points. It is like the blind leading the blind. Unfortunately, because Prince did not make provisions for his demise - he really didn't, no matter what people say about the work he did with Phaedra - others have had to determine what he actually had and they still don't know even nearly one year later. The tributes are over. I, for one, think the April "celebration" is ridiculous - celebrating his death date? Really? And everyone climbing on board to make money this month of all months. Don't start me on this. I belong to some Facebook groups that are thrilled to be celebrating next week. I cannot understand them.

Totally agree. I'm dreading the day, wouldn't even cross my mind to celebrate it. I'd understand if they wanted to celebrate his birthday, even though he didn't himself. But his death, a tragic one at that... no, I'll probably be trying as hard as possible not to think about him being gone and failing miserably.

I'm planning on wearing yellow, because I'm not going to be sad that day. I'm guessing they're pulling from those Louisiana roots, not mourning death but celebrating it. I don't know, I'm just not going to be sad that day.

tmo1965 said:

If I understand this correctly, Bremer Trust is not off the hook? If they are not off the hook, can they charge the estate more fees? Looking at the cost of all these legal fees, I really think that Tyka et al need to pick their battles. Sometimes it is better to let some things go. They don't want to be in a situation where when the estate is finally settled there is nothing left of the estate because it all went to the lawyers.

Bremer is not off the hook as to liability of the administration of the estate, and can only recover attorney fees if they win the litigation that may be forthcoming.

I believe this is why P didnt leave a will...... Chaos and Disorder.

tmo1965 said:

laurarichardson said:

Well he did business with them for over 30 years. I find it funny that he changed up his mgmt and team every couple of years but stuck with his bank for 30 and in the end they appear to have been the biggiest fuck ups he may have ever done business with.

I will give it to Tyka and Omarr they have their brothers tenacity.

If I understand this correctly, Bremer Trust is not off the hook? If they are not off the hook, can they charge the estate more fees? Looking at the cost of all these legal fees, I really think that Tyka et al need to pick their battles. Sometimes it is better to let some things go. They don't want to be in a situation where when the estate is finally settled there is nothing left of the estate because it all went to the lawyers.

I may be mistaken Bremer has not been paid anything yet and I would guess if they are found guilty of wrong doing they might not get their money at all.

1Sasha said:

laurarichardson said:

I may be mistaken Bremer has not been paid anything yet and I would guess if they are found guilty of wrong doing they might not get their money at all.

The Judge granted Bremer's fees but stayed the paragraph relieving them of liability in the April 5, 2017 Order.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

The Judge granted Bremer's fees but stayed the paragraph relieving them of liability in the April 5, 2017 Order.

If they are guilty of wrong doing to could end of owing the estate money.

morningsong said:

MMJas said:

Totally agree. I'm dreading the day, wouldn't even cross my mind to celebrate it. I'd understand if they wanted to celebrate his birthday, even though he didn't himself. But his death, a tragic one at that... no, I'll probably be trying as hard as possible not to think about him being gone and failing miserably.

I'm planning on wearing yellow, because I'm not going to be sad that day. I'm guessing they're pulling from those Louisiana roots, not mourning death but celebrating it. I don't know, I'm just not going to be sad that day.

Love that! And yeah, I'm from Louisiana....

not trying to derail this thread, but on the 21st, I'm putting a huge purple bow on my mailbox "for everyone to see", like I did the day he passed and left it there until the wind and weather took it away.

The siblings submitted a motion to be declared heirs. They are trying to move the estate process along. I like the move personally.

nelcp777 said:

anangellooksdown said:

Lovejunky said:

Haha! Very well said. And kitties always want more catnip. I appreciate your other post above also. Our work in life, all of us, is to find what it means for us to be in good standing with God.

Thanks Angel <3

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PRINCE_ESTATE_ADVISER?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

The Associated Press is reporting that Troy Carter has been chosen by Comerica to be the entertainment adviser.

rogifan said:

nelcp777 said:

The siblings submitted a motion to be declared heirs. They are trying to move the estate process along. I like the move personally.

This would mean the heirs of his estate are his 6 siblings? Or would it still be possible for someone else to come forward?

From what I understand from the filing today, once the Judge declares the 6 siblings heirs, there is a one year statute of limitations in Minnesota that would permit an heir to come forward within a year after the declaration. This is why the siblings want to be declared heirs now instead of later.

They are not asking for a distribution.

An odd statute for sure.

bilbolives said:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PRINCE_ESTATE_ADVISER?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

The Associated Press is reporting that Troy Carter has been chosen by Comerica to be the entertainment adviser.

I think his real name is Steve Urkel.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PRINCE_ESTATE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

The Associated Press is reporting that Tyka and the five half-siblings are asking Judge Eide to name them the rightful heirs, with a hearing set for May 10.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

rogifan said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

From what I understand from the filing today, once the Judge declares the 6 siblings heirs, there is a one year statute of limitations in Minnesota that would permit an heir to come forward within a year after the declaration. This is why the siblings want to be declared heirs now instead of later.

They are not asking for a distribution.

An odd statute for sure.

Is there anyone else whose status hasn't been determined? Otherwise what the judge waiting for?

I believe the judge was going to wait for the 3 people appealing to have their day in court even thought he stated that their success in unlikely.

Rodney Dixon

Aflred's Sister ( who thinks Prince is her half brother )

Duane 's spawn ( who think that should inheirt because Prince was a play uncle)

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

I believe the judge was going to wait for the 3 people appealing to have their day in court even thought he stated that their success in unlikely.

Rodney Dixon

Aflred's Sister ( who thinks Prince is her half brother )

Duane 's spawn ( who think that should inheirt because Prince was a play uncle)

So no secret children that no one knows about?

I think if he had kids he would have taken care of them with a settlment or a trust. We know that his divorce attorney's have a work product but that could be for anything even something to do with charity.

I think the sibs do not think there are anymore children but under MN law an heir can appear as long as a year after everything has been settled. Right now they are just trying to be declared heirs to help move things a long as they are not asking for disbursements.

rogifan said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

From what I understand from the filing today, once the Judge declares the 6 siblings heirs, there is a one year statute of limitations in Minnesota that would permit an heir to come forward within a year after the declaration. This is why the siblings want to be declared heirs now instead of later.

They are not asking for a distribution.

An odd statute for sure.

Is there anyone else whose status hasn't been determined? Otherwise what the judge waiting for?

The Judge wanted to wait till the appeals were complete.

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

I believe the judge was going to wait for the 3 people appealing to have their day in court even thought he stated that their success in unlikely.

Rodney Dixon

Aflred's Sister ( who thinks Prince is her half brother )

Duane 's spawn ( who think that should inheirt because Prince was a play uncle)

So no secret children that no one knows about?

None that have filed a claim to the Estate in Probate Court.

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said: So no secret children that no one knows about?

I think if he had kids he would have taken care of them with a settlment or a trust. We know that his divorce attorney's have a work product but that could be for anything even something to do with charity.

I think the sibs do not think there are anymore children but under MN law an heir can appear as long as a year after everything has been settled. Right now they are just trying to be declared heirs to help move things a long as they are not asking for disbursements.

Still hoping for that trust, Laura?

nelcp777 said:

precioux said:

nelcp777 said:

None that have filed a claim to the Estate in Probate Court.

What about the child that tried to lay claim against the estate, but was ruled out on the grounds that he had been subsequently adopted? I'm sure the subject is moot...BUT, in the case of Hank Williams (documentary), he had a daughter out of wedlock, and the same rules applied UNTIL her attorney was able to prove that the court system somehow "maliciously" hid HW's written intentions for this child to be included. Is it possible to ever know if this child was his biological son,even he the claim can't be upheld? ISLIJAG?

For the boy's sake especially, he should be allowed to know one way or the other.

I still think its very possible there is a child out there, but he and the mother had an "understanding" and we shall never know.

precioux said:

What about the child that tried to lay claim against the estate, but was ruled out on the grounds that he had been subsequently adopted? I'm sure the subject is moot...BUT, in the case of Hank Williams (documentary), he had a daughter out of wedlock, and the same rules applied UNTIL her attorney was able to prove that the court system somehow "maliciously" hid HW's written intentions for this child to be included. Is it possible to ever know if this child was his biological son,even he the claim can't be upheld? ISLIJAG?

This is an interesting story. Her name is Jett Williams. She was born 5 days after

Hank passed. Hank's mother adopted Jett. When Hank's mother passed Jett was made

a ward of the state, and adopted by another couple. The attorney that represented her

against the estate was Keith Adkinson. And yes, the the court found she was defrauded of her inheritance.

I was able to get to know both of them when Keith was co-counsel on a case in our law firm. Both Jett and Keith had many tales to tell.

Estabon will never know if P was his biological father unless the Court of Appeals rules that

he can take a DNA test, or one of the siblings voluntarily allows a comparison of DNA.

Jett's case is somewhat different because Hank acknowledged in writing she was his child

prior to her birth.

[Edited 4/13/17 17:56pm]

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

morningsong said:

laurarichardson said:

I think if he had kids he would have taken care of them with a settlment or a trust. We know that his divorce attorney's have a work product but that could be for anything even something to do with charity.

I think the sibs do not think there are anymore children but under MN law an heir can appear as long as a year after everything has been settled. Right now they are just trying to be declared heirs to help move things a long as they are not asking for disbursements.

Still hoping for that trust, Laura?

The thing is we will never know if he put money into one or not.

I find it strange that the had about 98k in his checking accounts but was getting money from Tidal, royalites and had just sold out the Oracle arena with tickets going for as much as $400.00. That money went somewhere to some account.

I also thought it was interesting that Tidal was concerned about the IRS and keeping financial information redacted. I find it interesting he had money in Kim Berry's Beauty shops. We do not know what dude was up to with his money.

I firmly believe he stashed money around and would have no trouble believeing he put some in a trust. It does not mean it was for children as a trust could be set up for anything.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

precioux said:

What about the child that tried to lay claim against the estate, but was ruled out on the grounds that he had been subsequently adopted? I'm sure the subject is moot...BUT, in the case of Hank Williams (documentary), he had a daughter out of wedlock, and the same rules applied UNTIL her attorney was able to prove that the court system somehow "maliciously" hid HW's written intentions for this child to be included. Is it possible to ever know if this child was his biological son,even he the claim can't be upheld? ISLIJAG?

This is an interesting story. Her name is Jett Williams. She was born 5 days after

Hank passed. Hank's mother adopted Jett. When Hank's mother passed Jett was made

a ward of the state, and adopted by another couple. The attorney that represented her

against the estate was Keith Adkinson. And yes, the the court found she was defrauded of her inheritance.

I was able to get to know both of them when Keith was co-counsel on a case in our law firm. Both Jett and Keith had many tales to tell.

Estabon will never know if P was his biological father unless the Court of Appeals rules that

he can take a DNA test, or one of the siblings voluntarily allows a comparison of DNA.

Jett's case is somewhat different because Hank acknowledged in writing she was his child

prior to her birth.

[Edited 4/13/17 17:56pm]

If Estabon had a DNA test would he still be ineligable to inheirit due to his being adopted or could he claim that since Prince knew nothing about him or his adoption that fraud took place kind of like Jett?

I wonder if this is the reason he was barred from taking the test? And if he signed something saying he will not make a claim if they would go ahead and let him have a test.

I kind of think he should have one just for his own piece of mind. As Prince was in the Buffalo area 9 months out from when he was born and he claims he reached out to an associate. Maybe he could get that associate to vouche for him.

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:

Still hoping for that trust, Laura?

The thing is we will never know if he put money into one or not.

I find it strange that the had about 98k in his checking accounts but was getting money from Tidal, royalites and had just sold out the Oracle arena with tickets going for as much as $400.00. That money went somewhere to some account.

I also thought it was interesting that Tidal was concerned about the IRS and keeping financial information redacted. I find it interesting he had money in Kim Berry's Beauty shops. We do not know what dude was up to with his money.

I firmly believe he stashed money around and would have no trouble believeing he put some in a trust. It does not mean it was for children as a trust could be set up for anything.

I agree ....

after all we have come to know of him..the one thing we do know is that theres no telling what he would do...

If there is a child that he knew about we arent going to know about it...

I DO think that they should allow those twin boys Estabon and cant remember to test..

It must be torture NOT knowing one way or the other...I cant see what the harm would be...

but then Im not one of Princes siblings !!!!!

Plus there is that woman with the child "in the islands" that a poster here has mentioned - that he would go to see them routinely. And the woman in Minnesota he was close to with a child. Who knows? I do think though, if a woman made an arrangement with him, that a child should be allowed to know his or her parentage, no matter what arrangement was made with the mother.

1Sasha said:

Plus there is that woman with the child "in the islands" that a poster here has mentioned - that he would go to see them routinely. And the woman in Minnesota he was close to with a child. Who knows? I do think though, if a woman made an arrangement with him, that a child should be allowed to know his or her parentage, no matter what arrangement was made with the mother.

I know that there was some sort of issue with the Turks and Cacicos property mentioned by the bank in the court papers. I wonder if he had someone staying in the house even as just a care taker?

Or if someone's else name was on the deed. We know he gave M1 and M2 homes long before the divorce papers were signed.

I swear we are going to be finding out stuff about him for years.

[Edited 4/14/17 5:07am]