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Reply #450 posted 04/11/17 12:55pm

morningsong

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

morningsong said:

Looks like Cousin's claim was dismissed.

Cousins is a loser loser



He'll be back.

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Reply #451 posted 04/11/17 1:14pm

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Omarr and Alfred's attorneys filed a Supplemental Objections to Bremer's Final Accounts through January 31, 2017. All their Exhibits were redacted but for Exhibit H which is a copy of the Wall Street Journal's article "Auctions for Prince's Music Rights Had Some Bidders Feeling Left Out" dated March 28, 2017.

Ouch.

eek

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Reply #452 posted 04/11/17 1:24pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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Omarr and Alfred's attorneys dont wont Bremer discharged by the Judge due to

their failure to perform due diligence, and failure to monitor the conduct of its

entertainment advisors.

They want the Judge to determine whether Bremer breached its fiduciary duties to the

Estate before discharging them. They only became aware of something last week.

What they became aware of ...dont know...it has been redacted.

They are also saying Bremer's involvement in ----------- may be a breach of

fiduciary duty.

They want an evidentiary hearing.

Well, we know what they are talking 'bout Willis.

Double ouch.

eek lol

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Reply #453 posted 04/11/17 1:29pm

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The Judge is also giving Jennifer Jeffers until May 31, 2017 to file additional factual record

and legal arguments in regard to her financial claim and Petition for Enforcement

of the Slayer Rule.

Jeffers must have asked for additional time because he said there would be no

further continuances to submit the requested information.

I dont know why he is even giving her the time of day.

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Reply #454 posted 04/11/17 2:11pm

anangellooksdo
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nelcp777 said:



1Sasha said:


PurpleDiamonds1, I'm with you.



Me too.



Me 4.
I feel it coming, and the day itself (and the several days before) are going to be quiet reflection for me.
I know he was hurting those last few days, actually Mayte said she got word in Dec 2015 or Jan 2016 that he wasn't doing well. I am so glad he is at such peace now. It's over...no more pain...no more hurt...job well done, Good and Faithful Servant.
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Reply #455 posted 04/11/17 2:13pm

morningsong

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Omarr and Alfred's attorneys dont wont Bremer discharged by the Judge due to

their failure to perform due diligence, and failure to monitor the conduct of its

entertainment advisors.

They want the Judge to determine whether Bremer breached its fiduciary duties to the

Estate before discharging them. They only became aware of something last week.

What they became aware of ...dont know...it has been redacted.

They are also saying Bremer's involvement in ----------- may be a breach of

fiduciary duty.

They want an evidentiary hearing.

Well, we know what they are talking 'bout Willis.

Double ouch.

eek lol



Looks like Bremer's got some 'splanin' to do.

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Reply #456 posted 04/11/17 2:17pm

PurpleDiamonds
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morningsong said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:


Omarr and Alfred's attorneys dont wont Bremer discharged by the Judge due to


their failure to perform due diligence, and failure to monitor the conduct of its


entertainment advisors.


They want the Judge to determine whether Bremer breached its fiduciary duties to the


Estate before discharging them. They only became aware of something last week.


What they became aware of ...dont know...it has been redacted.


They are also saying Bremer's involvement in ----- may be a breach of


fiduciary duty.


They want an evidentiary hearing.


Well, we know what they are talking 'bout Willis.


Double ouch.


eek lol





Looks like Bremer's got some 'splanin' to do.


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Reply #457 posted 04/11/17 3:02pm

laurarichardso
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anangellooksdown said:

nelcp777 said:



1Sasha said:


PurpleDiamonds1, I'm with you.



Me too.



Me 4.
I feel it coming, and the day itself (and the several days before) are going to be quiet reflection for me.
I know he was hurting those last few days, actually Mayte said she got word in Dec 2015 or Jan 2016 that he wasn't doing well. I am so glad he is at such peace now. It's over...no more pain...no more hurt...job well done, Good and Faithful Servant.

Lord if that women said the moon was made of green cheese that would be okay😳.
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Reply #458 posted 04/11/17 3:31pm

tmo1965

206Michelle said:

Mumio said:


Just going to point out something here because double standards don't work for me: ALL of these women returned the attention. Every last one of them. ALL went to be with him, I'm gonna be bold and say they were eager to do so lol and did not hide that from anyone, did they? And not one of them had an issue with how much older he was than they were. So what exactly does that make them? Young women willing to go with an older, wealthy, famous man? Please find an equally descriptive term and let us know. I don't have an issue with what anyone's actions were in these scenarios.

[Edited 4/7/17 18:47pm]

Exactly, Mumio. All of these much younger women where saddened when he died. Mayte. Manuela. Damaris Lewis. Judith Hill. Andy Allo. Janelle Monae. Every single one of these women who has spoken publicly about his death has expressed sadness over his death and reflected on the time that she spent with him positively. They all loved him/had love for him.

My response to the bolded above - Gold diggers.

Seriously, the only reason I made the previous comments was to the extent that those types of relationships tend to have an imbalance of power favoring the older guy. I know that a lot of young woman do the math and use a little common sense to realize that if she can get him to marry her and pop out a kid or 2, the odds are in her favor that he will kick the bucket long before she does and she will have access to all or most of his money - hence the term Gold Digger. But, many of these young women are attracted to the perks of the lifestyle that someone like Prince can provide for them, but are naive about the pitfalls.

There are vulnerabilities for the man as well as perks. He gets the trophy wife/girlfriend, but he can end up hurt as well, when he realizes that she was just after his $$$. So really, it can cut both ways. I call the men "dirty old men" because many of them don't won't a woman close to their own age because they would not be able to get away with the BS, plus the younger woman is pleasing to their eyes.

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Reply #459 posted 04/11/17 4:12pm

Asenath0607

1Sasha said:

LR, you have made some valid points. It is like the blind leading the blind. Unfortunately, because Prince did not make provisions for his demise - he really didn't, no matter what people say about the work he did with Phaedra - others have had to determine what he actually had and they still don't know even nearly one year later. The tributes are over. I, for one, think the April "celebration" is ridiculous - celebrating his death date? Really? And everyone climbing on board to make money this month of all months. Don't start me on this. I belong to some Facebook groups that are thrilled to be celebrating next week. I cannot understand them.

Not all, but perhaps some, are thinking along the lines that Prince himself voiced in the interview with Mel B:

"I'll celebrate the day I die."

"Oh, because you're gonna move on to the next path in life?" asks Mel B.

"Yes," answers Prince, giving the thumbs-up

don't know if that helps any as we approach 4/21

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Reply #460 posted 04/11/17 5:24pm

lunabelle

hi everyone, I was thinking more about this. if you feel like going back in time.. Remember Rodney Dixon, who filed epic mind spinning outrageous claims ( he was songwriter with P etc) but in amongst it all he also filed that exclusive songwriter agreement between P and NPG that looks very real? from april 2014. who knows how he obtained that. It was buried in a 50+ page claim doc, which also contained other genuine copyright office docs that showed Phaedra filing for copyright in Jan 2016 ( accepted at copyright office Feb 2016) on behalf of NPG for 965 of Prince's songs. Ie shifting copyright records from Prince to NPG. Which seems to be her job as a rep/manager for NPG. Anyway, in that songwriter agreement P assigns his rights to NPG and there's a clause on POA. Put that together with Phaedra's understandable panic in the court docs when she starts hearing about the deals the estate is making, which she states are contrary to what she understood to be existing arrangements, and she was simply making sure she was protected from being blamed for the estate's actions. She insisted on getting a document from the court that stated she was relieved of being the manager and they issued that eventually, saying she was removed as of April 27 or so. Makes sense too when you think of how likely it may be that the estate industry experts may have simply ignored/defied the Tidal agreements P had in place.

I have no idea of the implications of any of this, of course, but I can understand that she may well have been able to conduct business on behalf of NPG given she was in the official documents as manager, and given the artists agreement. I don't know how/if it helps but I was reminded of these documents which do provide at least more insight into some of the NPG and copyright dealings in the 2014-2016 period.

lets see if this links to the doc directly, though I think it prevents direct linking! otherwise its findable in the estate docs OCT 6 "memorandum of rodney dixon as POA..." exhibit A page 33.

http://www.mncourts.gov/m...randum.pdf

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Reply #461 posted 04/11/17 5:37pm

PurpleDiamonds
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laurarichardson said:

anangellooksdown said:



Me 4.
I feel it coming, and the day itself (and the several days before) are going to be quiet reflection for me.
I know he was hurting those last few days, actually Mayte said she got word in Dec 2015 or Jan 2016 that he wasn't doing well. I am so glad he is at such peace now. It's over...no more pain...no more hurt...job well done, Good and Faithful Servant.

Lord if that women said the moon was made of green cheese that would be okay😳.

lol falloff
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Reply #462 posted 04/11/17 5:49pm

PurpleDiamonds
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Asenath0607 said:



1Sasha said:


LR, you have made some valid points. It is like the blind leading the blind. Unfortunately, because Prince did not make provisions for his demise - he really didn't, no matter what people say about the work he did with Phaedra - others have had to determine what he actually had and they still don't know even nearly one year later. The tributes are over. I, for one, think the April "celebration" is ridiculous - celebrating his death date? Really? And everyone climbing on board to make money this month of all months. Don't start me on this. I belong to some Facebook groups that are thrilled to be celebrating next week. I cannot understand them.




Not all, but perhaps some, are thinking along the lines that Prince himself voiced in the interview with Mel B:



"I'll celebrate the day I die."


"Oh, because you're gonna move on to the next path in life?" asks Mel B.


"Yes," answers Prince, giving the thumbs-up



don't know if that helps any as we approach 4/21



IMO...It feels sad celebrating the day he left us, instead of the day he was brought into this world. It's like a mixed message...we are happy he left??
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Reply #463 posted 04/11/17 6:03pm

Lovejunky

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Asenath0607 said:

Not all, but perhaps some, are thinking along the lines that Prince himself voiced in the interview with Mel B:

"I'll celebrate the day I die."

"Oh, because you're gonna move on to the next path in life?" asks Mel B.

"Yes," answers Prince, giving the thumbs-up

don't know if that helps any as we approach 4/21

IMO...It feels sad celebrating the day he left us, instead of the day he was brought into this world. It's like a mixed message...we are happy he left??

Difficult to get ones head around isnt it ?

WHat I know is that People who have a profound faith is GOD are not afraid of Death, nor are they overly attached to their Worldy Achievements.

If the Afterlife exists, and ALL religions say it does in one form or another, and we re promised eternality if we just Believe then Leaving this earthly realm is something to be celebrated, especially if One is on Good Standing with GOD.

I dont doubt for a second that Prince worked on his divine relationship with the creator for his entire Life here.He may have fallen down and stumbled once or twice or numberous times even...but he always returned to The Path

Way back Home says it all for me...

So many reasons why
There's so many reasons why
I don't belong here
But now that I am I
Without fear I am
Gonna conquer with no fear
Until I find my way back home

Power to the ones who could raise a child like me
The path was set
But if you look the truth will set us free
I've heard about those happy endings
But it's still a mystery
Lemme tell you about me
I'm happiest when I can see
My way back home

I Believe him.......and am trying my hardest to follow his lead becasue there is really only one thing in this Life is guaranteed...Death

and Preparing for it makes sense.

We never know HOW its going to happen, so we should approach every day as if it was our last....

Most people in this world (Most people in this world)are born dead
But I was born alive
(I was born with this dream)
With a dream outside my head (outside my head)
That I could find my way back home
My, my, way way back home

Is this the way? (Is this the way?)

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Reply #464 posted 04/11/17 6:08pm

anangellooksdo
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tmo1965 said:



206Michelle said:




Mumio said:




Just going to point out something here because double standards don't work for me: ALL of these women returned the attention. Every last one of them. ALL went to be with him, I'm gonna be bold and say they were eager to do so lol and did not hide that from anyone, did they? And not one of them had an issue with how much older he was than they were. So what exactly does that make them? Young women willing to go with an older, wealthy, famous man? Please find an equally descriptive term and let us know. I don't have an issue with what anyone's actions were in these scenarios.


[Edited 4/7/17 18:47pm]



Exactly, Mumio. All of these much younger women where saddened when he died. Mayte. Manuela. Damaris Lewis. Judith Hill. Andy Allo. Janelle Monae. Every single one of these women who has spoken publicly about his death has expressed sadness over his death and reflected on the time that she spent with him positively. They all loved him/had love for him.



My response to the bolded above - Gold diggers.

Seriously, the only reason I made the previous comments was to the extent that those types of relationships tend to have an imbalance of power favoring the older guy. I know that a lot of young woman do the math and use a little common sense to realize that if she can get him to marry her and pop out a kid or 2, the odds are in her favor that he will kick the bucket long before she does and she will have access to all or most of his money - hence the term Gold Digger. But, many of these young women are attracted to the perks of the lifestyle that someone like Prince can provide for them, but are naive about the pitfalls.

There are vulnerabilities for the man as well as perks. He gets the trophy wife/girlfriend, but he can end up hurt as well, when he realizes that she was just after his $$$. So really, it can cut both ways. I call the men "dirty old men" because many of them don't won't a woman close to their own age because they would not be able to get away with the BS, plus the younger woman is pleasing to their eyes.



They liked his power.
Within power is money, connections, fame, etc.
And Prince was with them because he liked females without "baggage" and young skin. 😀
Problem is, none of them was mature enough to give him what he really desired.
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Reply #465 posted 04/11/17 6:20pm

Lovejunky

anangellooksdown said:

They liked his power. Within power is money, connections, fame, etc. And Prince was with them because he liked females without "baggage" and young skin. 😀 Problem is, none of them was mature enough to give him what he really desired.

Prince was Like Catnip to all the pretty little Pussies...

When cats come in contact with catnip they commonly sniff it, rub it with their chin and cheeks, lick and then finally eat the plant. The sniffing produces the stimulating effects, with the licking and eating of the plant bruising the leaves and releasing more of the hallucinogen.

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

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Reply #466 posted 04/11/17 7:48pm

bilbolives

http://www.startribune.com/divorce-attorney-won-t-get-600-000-he-claimed-prince-owed-him/419182924/

The Minneapolis Star Tribune is reporting on Judge Eide's dismissal of Cousins' claim.

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Reply #467 posted 04/12/17 1:40am

MMJas

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1Sasha said:

LR, you have made some valid points. It is like the blind leading the blind. Unfortunately, because Prince did not make provisions for his demise - he really didn't, no matter what people say about the work he did with Phaedra - others have had to determine what he actually had and they still don't know even nearly one year later. The tributes are over. I, for one, think the April "celebration" is ridiculous - celebrating his death date? Really? And everyone climbing on board to make money this month of all months. Don't start me on this. I belong to some Facebook groups that are thrilled to be celebrating next week. I cannot understand them.

Totally agree. I'm dreading the day, wouldn't even cross my mind to celebrate it. I'd understand if they wanted to celebrate his birthday, even though he didn't himself. But his death, a tragic one at that... no, I'll probably be trying as hard as possible not to think about him being gone and failing miserably.

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Reply #468 posted 04/12/17 2:36am

anangellooksdo
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Lovejunky said:



anangellooksdown said:


They liked his power. Within power is money, connections, fame, etc. And Prince was with them because he liked females without "baggage" and young skin. 😀 Problem is, none of them was mature enough to give him what he really desired.

Prince was Like Catnip to all the pretty little Pussies...




When cats come in contact with catnip they commonly sniff it, rub it with their chin and cheeks, lick and then finally eat the plant. The sniffing produces the stimulating effects, with the licking and eating of the plant bruising the leaves and releasing more of the hallucinogen.



lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol



Haha! Very well said.
And kitties always want more catnip. :kitty:

I appreciate your other post above also. Our work in life, all of us, is to find what it means for us to be in good standing with God.
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Reply #469 posted 04/12/17 4:14am

1Sasha

MMJas said:

1Sasha said:

LR, you have made some valid points. It is like the blind leading the blind. Unfortunately, because Prince did not make provisions for his demise - he really didn't, no matter what people say about the work he did with Phaedra - others have had to determine what he actually had and they still don't know even nearly one year later. The tributes are over. I, for one, think the April "celebration" is ridiculous - celebrating his death date? Really? And everyone climbing on board to make money this month of all months. Don't start me on this. I belong to some Facebook groups that are thrilled to be celebrating next week. I cannot understand them.

Totally agree. I'm dreading the day, wouldn't even cross my mind to celebrate it. I'd understand if they wanted to celebrate his birthday, even though he didn't himself. But his death, a tragic one at that... no, I'll probably be trying as hard as possible not to think about him being gone and failing miserably.

Exactly!

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Reply #470 posted 04/12/17 6:56am

HatrinaHaterwi
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MMJas said:

1Sasha said:

LR, you have made some valid points. It is like the blind leading the blind. Unfortunately, because Prince did not make provisions for his demise - he really didn't, no matter what people say about the work he did with Phaedra - others have had to determine what he actually had and they still don't know even nearly one year later. The tributes are over. I, for one, think the April "celebration" is ridiculous - celebrating his death date? Really? And everyone climbing on board to make money this month of all months. Don't start me on this. I belong to some Facebook groups that are thrilled to be celebrating next week. I cannot understand them.

Totally agree. I'm dreading the day, wouldn't even cross my mind to celebrate it. I'd understand if they wanted to celebrate his birthday, even though he didn't himself. But his death, a tragic one at that... no, I'll probably be trying as hard as possible not to think about him being gone and failing miserably.


yeahthat sad

I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #471 posted 04/12/17 7:57am

Rev

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Lovejunky said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Asenath0607 said: IMO...It feels sad celebrating the day he left us, instead of the day he was brought into this world. It's like a mixed message...we are happy he left??

Difficult to get ones head around isnt it ?

WHat I know is that People who have a profound faith is GOD are not afraid of Death, nor are they overly attached to their Worldy Achievements.

If the Afterlife exists, and ALL religions say it does in one form or another, and we re promised eternality if we just Believe then Leaving this earthly realm is something to be celebrated, especially if One is on Good Standing with GOD.

I dont doubt for a second that Prince worked on his divine relationship with the creator for his entire Life here.He may have fallen down and stumbled once or twice or numberous times even...but he always returned to The Path

Way back Home says it all for me...

So many reasons why
There's so many reasons why
I don't belong here
But now that I am I
Without fear I am
Gonna conquer with no fear
Until I find my way back home

Power to the ones who could raise a child like me
The path was set
But if you look the truth will set us free
I've heard about those happy endings
But it's still a mystery
Lemme tell you about me
I'm happiest when I can see
My way back home

I Believe him.......and am trying my hardest to follow his lead becasue there is really only one thing in this Life is guaranteed...Death

and Preparing for it makes sense.

We never know HOW its going to happen, so we should approach every day as if it was our last....

Most people in this world (Most people in this world)are born dead
But I was born alive
(I was born with this dream)
With a dream outside my head (outside my head)
That I could find my way back home
My, my, way way back home

Is this the way? (Is this the way?)

I have to admit that I missed on this album when it came out. Finding it after his passing. At first this song had me emotional and in tears for him. After that passed, I now feel at peace for him and his path.

Truly honest and beautifully done.

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Reply #472 posted 04/12/17 9:46am

laurarichardso
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Rev said:

Lovejunky said:

Difficult to get ones head around isnt it ?

WHat I know is that People who have a profound faith is GOD are not afraid of Death, nor are they overly attached to their Worldy Achievements.

If the Afterlife exists, and ALL religions say it does in one form or another, and we re promised eternality if we just Believe then Leaving this earthly realm is something to be celebrated, especially if One is on Good Standing with GOD.

I dont doubt for a second that Prince worked on his divine relationship with the creator for his entire Life here.He may have fallen down and stumbled once or twice or numberous times even...but he always returned to The Path

Way back Home says it all for me...

So many reasons why
There's so many reasons why
I don't belong here
But now that I am I
Without fear I am
Gonna conquer with no fear
Until I find my way back home

Power to the ones who could raise a child like me
The path was set
But if you look the truth will set us free
I've heard about those happy endings
But it's still a mystery
Lemme tell you about me
I'm happiest when I can see
My way back home

I Believe him.......and am trying my hardest to follow his lead becasue there is really only one thing in this Life is guaranteed...Death

and Preparing for it makes sense.

We never know HOW its going to happen, so we should approach every day as if it was our last....

Most people in this world (Most people in this world)are born dead
But I was born alive
(I was born with this dream)
With a dream outside my head (outside my head)
That I could find my way back home
My, my, way way back home

Is this the way? (Is this the way?)

I have to admit that I missed on this album when it came out. Finding it after his passing. At first this song had me emotional and in tears for him. After that passed, I now feel at peace for him and his path.

Truly honest and beautifully done.

I at first thought that he was talking about getting back on his feet and finding his second wind but after he died I knew he was talking about going home.

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Reply #473 posted 04/12/17 10:33am

ISaidLifeIsJus
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The Judge has stayed Bremer's discharge from liability as

it appears litigation will be forthcoming.

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Reply #474 posted 04/12/17 10:41am

nelcp777

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The Judge has stayed Bremer's discharge from liability as

it appears litigation will be forthcoming.

Interesting.

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Reply #475 posted 04/12/17 10:42am

1Sasha

Right now Bremer wishes it had never heard the name "Prince Rogers Nelson."

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Reply #476 posted 04/12/17 10:43am

nelcp777

1Sasha said:

Right now Bremer wishes it had never heard the name "Prince Rogers Nelson."

Hahahaha, so funny.

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Reply #477 posted 04/12/17 11:07am

laurarichardso
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1Sasha said:

Right now Bremer wishes it had never heard the name "Prince Rogers Nelson."

Well he did business with them for over 30 years. I find it funny that he changed up his mgmt and team every couple of years but stuck with his bank for 30 and in the end they appear to have been the biggiest fuck ups he may have ever done business with.

I will give it to Tyka and Omarr they have their brothers tenacity.

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Reply #478 posted 04/12/17 11:46am

tmo1965

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

Right now Bremer wishes it had never heard the name "Prince Rogers Nelson."

Well he did business with them for over 30 years. I find it funny that he changed up his mgmt and team every couple of years but stuck with his bank for 30 and in the end they appear to have been the biggiest fuck ups he may have ever done business with.

I will give it to Tyka and Omarr they have their brothers tenacity.

If I understand this correctly, Bremer Trust is not off the hook? If they are not off the hook, can they charge the estate more fees? Looking at the cost of all these legal fees, I really think that Tyka et al need to pick their battles. Sometimes it is better to let some things go. They don't want to be in a situation where when the estate is finally settled there is nothing left of the estate because it all went to the lawyers.

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Reply #479 posted 04/12/17 11:56am

morningsong

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The Judge has stayed Bremer's discharge from liability as

it appears litigation will be forthcoming.



Whoa.

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