tmo1965 said:

80tomato said:

Prince said , in an early Rolling Stone article , that his Dad ,John L. had lots of girlfriends

Carlin's mom was barely legal when Carlin was born. So, if Carlin is really Prince's brother, that means that John L was dirty old man like his son Prince was.

I object to that comment....Prince was NOT a dirty Old man

To imply that is disgusting of you !

The Judge's Order today approving Bremer's attorney fees

contained some interesting information.

1. Comerica shall continue to search for assets


2. Comerica shall investigate whether any action should be pursued for the return of the commission paid to Londell by Jobu


3. Comerica shall investigate whether any action should be pursued for the Cousins/Church fiasco


4. Prince owned over 40 business entities


5. Prince had a warehouse with over 1,500 boxes contained in it


6. Bremer coordinated with the investigations by the DEA and US Attorneys Office


7. There were audits of P's 2009-2012 income tax returns


8. Bremer investigated P's ownership in a charity entity and loans made to it


9. There is/was some sort of litigation with the Turks and Caicos property


10. The judgment from Italy against P for copyright infringement is still being pursued


11. Brianna made an allegation of breach of contract (huh?)


12. Some heirs objected to the UMG deal


13. The Judge noted that none of the attorneys that started on the case are still around


14. The Judge also gave a tongue lashing to the heirs and their attorneys: "The fragmented shotgun blast of activity that occurred at the beginning of this proceeding with a criminal investigation, an informal but overwhelming need for the community to grieve, create a memorial, gain information through the media and the need to search a vault, a seemingly endless supply of banker boxes, file cabinets and business records has given way to much more intense litigation and negotiations regarding heirs, claim against the Estate and entertainment deals. Current counsel do not recall or recognize that the Special Administrator did everything it could to stay out of of the Tribute Concert, leaving it to the heirs to deal with, only to get dragged in at the last minute as things unraveled and time became critical. Now the Special Administrator and its counsel are criticized for being too involved in the Tribute Concert."


15. Throughout the proceeding and most certainly by the fall of 2016 there was constant "chaffing" over the recommendations of the Special Administrator which increased attorney fees for everyone.


16. The Judge noted the heirs complain about the Special Administrator's attorney fees yet their attorney fees are in the millions.


17. The Judge doesnt think it is prudent to investigate Londell but will do at the request of some of the heirs.


18. Ditto for the church fiasco


19. There was a separate Order by the Judge regarding the confidential and privileged information with P's prior attorneys, Henson and Efron. The Judge is allowing them to share this information with Comerica.

The Judge's Order today approving Bremer's attorney fees

contained some interesting information.

1. Comerica shall continue to search for assets


2. Comerica shall investigate whether any action should be pursued for the return of the commission paid to Londell by Jobu


3. Comerica shall investigate whether any action should be pursued for the Cousins/Church fiasco


4. Prince owned over 40 business entities


5. Prince had a warehouse with over 1,500 boxes contained in it


6. Bremer coordinated with the investigations by the DEA and US Attorneys Office


7. There were audits of P's 2009-2012 income tax returns


8. Bremer investigated P's ownership in a charity entity and loans made to it


9. There is/was some sort of litigation with the Turks and Caicos property


10. The judgment from Italy against P for copyright infringement is still being pursued


11. Brianna made an allegation of breach of contract (huh?)


12. Some heirs objected to the UMG deal


13. The Judge noted that none of the attorneys that started on the case are still around


14. The Judge also gave a tongue lashing to the heirs and their attorneys: "The fragmented shotgun blast of activity that occurred at the beginning of this proceeding with a criminal investigation, an informal but overwhelming need for the community to grieve, create a memorial, gain information through the media and the need to search a vault, a seemingly endless supply of banker boxes, file cabinets and business records has given way to much more intense litigation and negotiations regarding heirs, claim against the Estate and entertainment deals. Current counsel do not recall or recognize that the Special Administrator did everything it could to stay out of of the Tribute Concert, leaving it to the heirs to deal with, only to get dragged in at the last minute as things unraveled and time became critical. Now the Special Administrator and its counsel are criticized for being too involved in the Tribute Concert."


15. Throughout the proceeding and most certainly by the fall of 2016 there was constant "chaffing" over the recommendations of the Special Administrator which increased attorney fees for everyone.


16. The Judge noted the heirs complain about the Special Administrator's attorney fees yet their attorney fees are in the millions.


17. The Judge doesnt think it is prudent to investigate Londell but will do at the request of some of the heirs.


18. Ditto for the church fiasco


19. There was a separate Order by the Judge regarding the confidential and privileged information with P's prior attorneys, Henson and Efron. The Judge is allowing them to share this information with Comerica.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I went back and looked and he was excluded as an heir of the Estate

on November 29, 2016 for his failure to arrange a second DNA test.

So this must be a clerical error to include Carlin as a Respondent.

Phew

[Edited 4/5/17 13:25pm]

I am not too worried about Carlin Q. I also believe that Prince did not have a child, at least through the claims. If so, the Estate would have been resolved by now.

With that, I also do not believe that a Trust was established. I could be wrong, but just a vibe.

I think the motion of determination is the best move the non-excluded heirs have made. I hope it puts pressure on the court, the determination is made and the SA will have to relinquish control to the heirs. That will prevent more Estate funds from being absorbed by lawyers.

Just my 2 cents.

80tomato said:

Prince said , in an early Rolling Stone article , that his Dad ,John L. had lots of girlfriends

Carlin's mom was barely legal when Carlin was born. So, if Carlin is really Prince's brother, that means that John L was dirty old man like his son Prince was.

I guess I missed H&E

1. H&E is authorized to share confidential and privileged information from its prior representation of Decedent with Comerica and its counsel, with the Court affirming that such a disclosure will not waive the attomey-client privilege and work product doctrine protections afforded that information and such a sharing of confidential and privileged information by H&E is consistent with its responsibilities under the Minnesota Rules of Professional Conduct and the duties delegated to the Special Administrator under Minnesota law and this Court’s Letters of Special Administration.

2. In the event Comerica determines it to be reasonable and necessary to waive the privileged protections to the information shared by H&E, it shall seek the Court’s permission to do so, with notice and an opportunity to be heard extended to H&E.

3. In the event Comerica seeks permission from the Court to waive said privileges, Comerica and H&E shall make their submissions to the Court under seal, and the Court will conduct an in camera review of those submissions to preserve their privilege and confidentiality protections pending a Court determination.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

I think it is sad that no one wants to go after Londell if he did something wrong as well as Patrick Cousins if these guys stole they should be investigated. I hope at least they go after Cousins because I do not think he is going away if they do not stop him. 😳 I have stumbled across a copy of some of the charities P donated to when LFOA was active and I will share later seems like money sometimes went individual people and not charities which I thought was strange.

I think what the Judge is saying is the value of the Church of Londell's commission is less than the amount of money it will cost the Estate to investigate.

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

How hard it to investigate fraud when it comes to forgery especially if this happened after Prince died? How many federal laws do you think were broken? Also Pat is continuing to be a thorn in the side of the estate. How come no one reports him to an ethics board.

Because they dont have the document Londell signed with Jobu and are expending attorney fees fighting over the subpoena issued to Londell.

It is feuds like this which is eating up all the Estate money (which apparently was something P was banking on. )

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The Judge's Order today approving Bremer's attorney fees

contained some interesting information.

1. Comerica shall continue to search for assets


2. Comerica shall investigate whether any action should be pursued for the return of the commission paid to Londell by Jobu


3. Comerica shall investigate whether any action should be pursued for the Cousins/Church fiasco


4. Prince owned over 40 business entities


5. Prince had a warehouse with over 1,500 boxes contained in it


6. Bremer coordinated with the investigations by the DEA and US Attorneys Office


7. There were audits of P's 2009-2012 income tax returns


8. Bremer investigated P's ownership in a charity entity and loans made to it


9. There is/was some sort of litigation with the Turks and Caicos property


10. The judgment from Italy against P for copyright infringement is still being pursued


11. Brianna made an allegation of breach of contract (huh?)


12. Some heirs objected to the UMG deal


13. The Judge noted that none of the attorneys that started on the case are still around


14. The Judge also gave a tongue lashing to the heirs and their attorneys: "The fragmented shotgun blast of activity that occurred at the beginning of this proceeding with a criminal investigation, an informal but overwhelming need for the community to grieve, create a memorial, gain information through the media and the need to search a vault, a seemingly endless supply of banker boxes, file cabinets and business records has given way to much more intense litigation and negotiations regarding heirs, claim against the Estate and entertainment deals. Current counsel do not recall or recognize that the Special Administrator did everything it could to stay out of of the Tribute Concert, leaving it to the heirs to deal with, only to get dragged in at the last minute as things unraveled and time became critical. Now the Special Administrator and its counsel are criticized for being too involved in the Tribute Concert."


15. Throughout the proceeding and most certainly by the fall of 2016 there was constant "chaffing" over the recommendations of the Special Administrator which increased attorney fees for everyone.


16. The Judge noted the heirs complain about the Special Administrator's attorney fees yet their attorney fees are in the millions.


17. The Judge doesnt think it is prudent to investigate Londell but will do at the request of some of the heirs.


18. Ditto for the church fiasco


19. There was a separate Order by the Judge regarding the confidential and privileged information with P's prior attorneys, Henson and Efron. The Judge is allowing them to share this information with Comerica.

As always, thank you for the summation. I also found it intersting the mention of the restructuring of a deal with WB, which may not be important.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

nelcp777 said:

As always, thank you for the summation. I also found it intersting the mention of the restructuring of a deal with WB, which may not be important.

I saw that too nelcp but forgot to put it on my list.

Thanks for pointing it out. I think it is important.

It may have some relations to the Vault and what WB may have rights/ownership to. Pure speculation on my end.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: