Reply #330 posted 04/04/17 3:56pm
laurarichardso n |
morningsong said:
Lovejunky said:
morningsong said:
Yeah I remember Carlin was supposed to get a 2nd DNA test. Don't know if it was done or not. But how does that affect everything else that's going on????
If it came back Positive would that explain why he is mentioned on that document AHEAD of Tyka ?????
Well, that's something I don't know. Or it could just be an overly careful judge.
I think the judge just left him on to be cautious. |
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Reply #331 posted 04/04/17 4:00pm
zenarose |
laurarichardson said: morningsong said:
Lovejunky said:
morningsong said:
Yeah I remember Carlin was supposed to get a 2nd DNA test. Don't know if it was done or not. But how does that affect everything else that's going on????
If it came back Positive would that explain why he is mentioned on that document AHEAD of Tyka ?????
Well, that's something I don't know. Or it could just be an overly careful judge.
I think the judge just left him on to be cautious. Right, because I remember a filing by the Judge stating that in the final outcome there would be the 6 non excluded heirs. ( " He felt sure ") |
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Reply #332 posted 04/04/17 4:25pm
laurarichardso n |
morningsong said:
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
morningsong said:
Ok, I saw the letter where "the contested heirs" (I realize that's not quite right but it's what I'm calling them) wanted access to the documents that the "non-contested heirs" receive. So this is saying that from that list only Carlin gets access to them? If so, that sounds very strange. I would understand VN and Brianna having access over everyone else on that list.
Im talking about the Court of Appeals Order that came out this afternoon.
I can't quickly figure out what the appeal is about. I'm assuming it's going back to some Carlin requested regarding his DNA result. Seems the judge is moving 2x slower than the "orders" that are coming in, if that's the case. Because what I'm looking at is a recent request that has Carlin's name on it along with all the other stragglers. Each straggling individual making erroneous claims can keep this tied up indefinitely at this rate. There isn't some kind of legal cutoff for people who just keep coming back making the same claims over and over again?
I think Carlin just refused to have the 2nd test these test are known to be reliable and remember his attorney is Nutball Cousins who his hellbebt in getting money out of the estate. I would surprise if this just a way for him to keep his foot in the door. |
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Reply #333 posted 04/04/17 4:29pm
PurpleDiamonds 1 |
laurarichardson said: morningsong said:
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
morningsong said:
Ok, I saw the letter where "the contested heirs" (I realize that's not quite right but it's what I'm calling them) wanted access to the documents that the "non-contested heirs" receive. So this is saying that from that list only Carlin gets access to them? If so, that sounds very strange. I would understand VN and Brianna having access over everyone else on that list.
Im talking about the Court of Appeals Order that came out this afternoon.
I can't quickly figure out what the appeal is about. I'm assuming it's going back to some Carlin requested regarding his DNA result. Seems the judge is moving 2x slower than the "orders" that are coming in, if that's the case. Because what I'm looking at is a recent request that has Carlin's name on it along with all the other stragglers. Each straggling individual making erroneous claims can keep this tied up indefinitely at this rate. There isn't some kind of legal cutoff for people who just keep coming back making the same claims over and over again?
I think Carlin just refused to have the 2nd test these test are known to be reliable and remember his attorney is Nutball Cousins who his hellbebt in getting money out of the estate. I would surprise if this just a way for him to keep his foot in the door. Hope that is all it is. The yahoo story is dated back in August and does not say if he took a second test...what is going to do keep taking tests until one says yes? Or like you said Laura if his Attny is cousins this could be why. |
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Reply #334 posted 04/04/17 4:36pm
morningsong |
laurarichardson said:
morningsong said:
I can't quickly figure out what the appeal is about. I'm assuming it's going back to some Carlin requested regarding his DNA result. Seems the judge is moving 2x slower than the "orders" that are coming in, if that's the case. Because what I'm looking at is a recent request that has Carlin's name on it along with all the other stragglers. Each straggling individual making erroneous claims can keep this tied up indefinitely at this rate. There isn't some kind of legal cutoff for people who just keep coming back making the same claims over and over again?
I think Carlin just refused to have the 2nd test these test are known to be reliable and remember his attorney is Nutball Cousins who his hellbebt in getting money out of the estate. I would surprise if this just a way for him to keep his foot in the door.
Ok, Cousins involvment makes this make sense. Wish the judge would see through and respond.
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Reply #335 posted 04/04/17 4:50pm
ISaidLifeIsJus tAGame |
I am hoping it is a clerical error.
The Order today was from the Appellate Court.
People who file an appeal are called "Appellants" (which are the girls and
others who are appealing Judge Eide's ruling that excluded them as heirs or denied DNA testing.)
People who are arguing against the Appellants position are called "Respondents."
It doesnt make sense that Carlin is designated as a Respondent. |
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Reply #336 posted 04/04/17 5:08pm
laurarichardso n |
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: I am hoping it is a clerical error. The Order today was from the Appellate Court. People who file an appeal are called "Appellants" (which are the girls and others who are appealing Judge Eide's ruling that excluded them as heirs or denied DNA testing.) People who are arguing against the Appellants position are called "Respondents." It doesnt make sense that Carlin is designated as a Respondent. --I thought anyone who was found to an heir due to being a child was going to have their name redacted? |
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Reply #337 posted 04/04/17 5:16pm
morningsong |
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
I am hoping it is a clerical error.
The Order today was from the Appellate Court.
People who file an appeal are called "Appellants" (which are the girls and
others who are appealing Judge Eide's ruling that excluded them as heirs or denied DNA testing.)
People who are arguing against the Appellants position are called "Respondents."
It doesnt make sense that Carlin is designated as a Respondent.
Ok, I kind of read some more. It's all about terminology. non-adverse heirs vs. the adverse heirs. Not sure how Carlin ended up on the non-adverse heirs side but he did.
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Reply #338 posted 04/04/17 6:01pm
ISaidLifeIsJus tAGame |
laurarichardson said:
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
I am hoping it is a clerical error.
The Order today was from the Appellate Court.
People who file an appeal are called "Appellants" (which are the girls and
others who are appealing Judge Eide's ruling that excluded them as heirs or denied DNA testing.)
People who are arguing against the Appellants position are called "Respondents."
It doesnt make sense that Carlin is designated as a Respondent.
--I thought anyone who was found to an heir due to being a child was going to have their name redacted?
Maybe he isnt a child.
Maybe he is a brother.
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Reply #339 posted 04/04/17 6:13pm
precioux |
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
laurarichardson said: ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
I am hoping it is a clerical error.
The Order today was from the Appellate Court.
People who file an appeal are called "Appellants" (which are the girls and
others who are appealing Judge Eide's ruling that excluded them as heirs or denied DNA testing.)
People who are arguing against the Appellants position are called "Respondents."
It doesnt make sense that Carlin is designated as a Respondent.
--I thought anyone who was found to an heir due to being a child was going to have their name redacted?
Maybe he isnt a child. Maybe he is a brother. |
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Reply #340 posted 04/04/17 8:21pm
PurpleDiamonds 1 |
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
laurarichardson said: ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
I am hoping it is a clerical error.
The Order today was from the Appellate Court.
People who file an appeal are called "Appellants" (which are the girls and
others who are appealing Judge Eide's ruling that excluded them as heirs or denied DNA testing.)
People who are arguing against the Appellants position are called "Respondents."
It doesnt make sense that Carlin is designated as a Respondent.
--I thought anyone who was found to an heir due to being a child was going to have their name redacted?
Maybe he isnt a child. Maybe he is a brother. |
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Reply #341 posted 04/05/17 2:18am
zenarose |
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
laurarichardson said: ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
I am hoping it is a clerical error.
The Order today was from the Appellate Court.
People who file an appeal are called "Appellants" (which are the girls and
others who are appealing Judge Eide's ruling that excluded them as heirs or denied DNA testing.)
People who are arguing against the Appellants position are called "Respondents."
It doesnt make sense that Carlin is designated as a Respondent.
--I thought anyone who was found to an heir due to being a child was going to have their name redacted?
Maybe he isnt a child. Maybe he is a brother. OMGsh!!!! ISLIJAG!!!! |
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Reply #342 posted 04/05/17 3:58am
laurarichardso n |
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
laurarichardson said:
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: --I thought anyone who was found to an heir due to being a child was going to have their name redacted?
Maybe he isnt a child.
Maybe he is a brother.
Let's hope not it is not like Prince needed anymore sibs. |
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Reply #343 posted 04/05/17 4:07am
1Sasha |
Geez, I never thought about his being a brother. |
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Reply #344 posted 04/05/17 7:49am
tmo1965 |
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
WHATTHEDOUBLEFUCK
The Appellate Court just issued an order on the Appeals case
and listed CarlinQ as a Respondent, along with the other siblings??????????????
That has to be a misstake. |
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Reply #345 posted 04/05/17 7:59am
tmo1965 |
morningsong said:
Lovejunky said:
Could be THIS :
https://www.yahoo.com/new...43622.html
Yeah I remember Carlin was supposed to get a 2nd DNA test. Don't know if it was done or not. But how does that affect everything else that's going on????
I don't think that he ever took the 2nd test and was ruled out based on that fact. |
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Reply #346 posted 04/05/17 8:17am
nelcp777 |
tmo1965 said:
morningsong said:
Yeah I remember Carlin was supposed to get a 2nd DNA test. Don't know if it was done or not. But how does that affect everything else that's going on????
I don't think that he ever took the 2nd test and was ruled out based on that fact.
I agree. Also, since the Probate court Judge has not officially delcared the heirs till after the Appeals process is done, I am inclined to believe that all claimants are privy.
Perhaps this why the siblings have petitioned for the heirs to be declared. It may speed up the process including the appeals process. Judge Eide has hinted that he expects 6 heirs.
Also, the way I understood one of the appeal documents was that the Probate needed to rule on the DNA and not hold on to the results. I could be wrong as I am not a lawyer and the language can be difficult to understand at times.
I do not think the order of names on the appeal order is important or significant. Carlin Q being lumped with the siblings is interesting. I am not concerned with it though. There would not be a request on Carlin's side for a second test if the 1st test was evidence of a DNA match. |
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Reply #347 posted 04/05/17 8:43am
laurarichardso n |
nelcp777 said:
tmo1965 said:
morningsong said:
Yeah I remember Carlin was supposed to get a 2nd DNA test. Don't know if it was done or not. But how does that affect everything else that's going on????
I don't think that he ever took the 2nd test and was ruled out based on that fact.
I agree. Also, since the Probate court Judge has not officially delcared the heirs till after the Appeals process is done, I am inclined to believe that all claimants are privy. Perhaps this why the siblings have petitioned for the heirs to be declared. It may speed up the process including the appeals process. Judge Eide has hinted that he expects 6 heirs. Also, the way I understood one of the appeal documents was that the Probate needed to rule on the DNA and not hold on to the results. I could be wrong as I am not a lawyer and the language can be difficult to understand at times. I do not think the order of names on the appeal order is important or significant. Carlin Q being lumped with the siblings is interesting. I am not concerned with it though. There would not be a request on Carlin's side for a second test if the 1st test was evidence of a DNA match. --These test are very accurate 20 more test will not change the results. We had discussed before was their another heir making a claim outside of the Duane spawn and that women who thinks he is her half brother. |
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Reply #348 posted 04/05/17 10:17am
morningsong |
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
laurarichardson said:
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: --I thought anyone who was found to an heir due to being a child was going to have their name redacted?
Maybe he isnt a child.
Maybe he is a brother.
VN and Brianna would be pissed. I can see it now, cause I would be.
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Reply #349 posted 04/05/17 10:37am
ISaidLifeIsJus tAGame |
nelcp777 said:
tmo1965 said:
I don't think that he ever took the 2nd test and was ruled out based on that fact.
I agree. Also, since the Probate court Judge has not officially delcared the heirs till after the Appeals process is done, I am inclined to believe that all claimants are privy.
Perhaps this why the siblings have petitioned for the heirs to be declared. It may speed up the process including the appeals process. Judge Eide has hinted that he expects 6 heirs.
Also, the way I understood one of the appeal documents was that the Probate needed to rule on the DNA and not hold on to the results. I could be wrong as I am not a lawyer and the language can be difficult to understand at times.
I do not think the order of names on the appeal order is important or significant. Carlin Q being lumped with the siblings is interesting. I am not concerned with it though. There would not be a request on Carlin's side for a second test if the 1st test was evidence of a DNA match.
It could very well be that the first test showed P was not his father but he
was related to P and that is why a second test was requested.
I dunno.
The Judge naming Carlin as a Respondent is very significant.
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Reply #350 posted 04/05/17 10:41am
laurarichardso n |
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
nelcp777 said:
I agree. Also, since the Probate court Judge has not officially delcared the heirs till after the Appeals process is done, I am inclined to believe that all claimants are privy.
Perhaps this why the siblings have petitioned for the heirs to be declared. It may speed up the process including the appeals process. Judge Eide has hinted that he expects 6 heirs.
Also, the way I understood one of the appeal documents was that the Probate needed to rule on the DNA and not hold on to the results. I could be wrong as I am not a lawyer and the language can be difficult to understand at times.
I do not think the order of names on the appeal order is important or significant. Carlin Q being lumped with the siblings is interesting. I am not concerned with it though. There would not be a request on Carlin's side for a second test if the 1st test was evidence of a DNA match.
It could very well be that the first test showed P was not his father but he
was related to P and that is why a second test was requested.
I dunno.
The Judge naming Carlin as a Respondent is very significant.
Carlin was from Kansas City right ? Because I believe Alfred and John Jr lived in Kansas City. |
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Reply #351 posted 04/05/17 11:01am
PennyPurple |
laurarichardson said:
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
It could very well be that the first test showed P was not his father but he
was related to P and that is why a second test was requested.
I dunno.
The Judge naming Carlin as a Respondent is very significant.
Carlin was from Kansas City right ? Because I believe Alfred and John Jr lived in Kansas City.
Yes, and Carlin is in jail right now. |
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Reply #352 posted 04/05/17 12:03pm
laurarichardso n |
PennyPurple said:
laurarichardson said:
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
It could very well be that the first test showed P was not his father but he
was related to P and that is why a second test was requested.
I dunno.
The Judge naming Carlin as a Respondent is very significant.
Carlin was from Kansas City right ? Because I believe Alfred and John Jr lived in Kansas City.
Yes, and Carlin is in jail right now. --But he grew up in Kansas City were Alfred grew up and John Jr now lives |
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Reply #353 posted 04/05/17 12:16pm
PennyPurple |
laurarichardson said:
PennyPurple said:
Yes, and Carlin is in jail right now.
--But he grew up in Kansas City were Alfred grew up and John Jr now lives
Yes, I believe so. I think he's in a federal prison in Colorado right now. [Edited 4/5/17 12:18pm] |
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Reply #354 posted 04/05/17 12:35pm
nelcp777 |
laurarichardson said:
PennyPurple said:
Yes, and Carlin is in jail right now.
--But he grew up in Kansas City were Alfred grew up and John Jr now lives
Then there is also the possibilty that Carlin is not Prince's biological child, but of relation. Then perhaps, by relation by Alfred or John Jr? |
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Reply #355 posted 04/05/17 1:13pm
80tomato |
Prince said , in an early Rolling Stone article , that his Dad ,John L. had lots of girlfriends |
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Reply #356 posted 04/05/17 1:18pm
ISaidLifeIsJus tAGame |
I went back and looked and he was excluded as an heir of the Estate
on November 29, 2016 for his failure to arrange a second DNA test.
So this must be a clerical error to include Carlin as a Respondent.
Phew
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Reply #357 posted 04/05/17 1:42pm
nelcp777 |
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
I went back and looked and he was excluded as an heir of the Estate
on November 29, 2016 for his failure to arrange a second DNA test.
So this must be a clerical error to include Carlin as a Respondent.
Phew
[Edited 4/5/17 13:25pm]
I am not too worried about Carlin Q. I also believe that Prince did not have a child, at least through the claims. If so, the Estate would have been resolved by now.
With that, I also do not believe that a Trust was established. I could be wrong, but just a vibe.
I think the motion of determination is the best move the non-excluded heirs have made. I hope it puts pressure on the court, the determination is made and the SA will have to relinquish control to the heirs. That will prevent more Estate funds from being absorbed by lawyers.
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Reply #358 posted 04/05/17 3:29pm
morningsong |
I guess I missed H&E
1. H&E is authorized to share confidential and privileged information from its prior representation of Decedent with Comerica and its counsel, with the Court affirming that such a disclosure will not waive the attomey-client privilege and work product doctrine protections afforded that information and such a sharing of confidential and privileged information by H&E is consistent with its responsibilities under the Minnesota Rules of Professional Conduct and the duties delegated to the Special Administrator under Minnesota law and this Court’s Letters of Special Administration.
2. In the event Comerica determines it to be reasonable and necessary to waive the privileged protections to the information shared by H&E, it shall seek the Court’s permission to do so, with notice and an opportunity to be heard extended to H&E.
3. In the event Comerica seeks permission from the Court to waive said privileges, Comerica and H&E shall make their submissions to the Court under seal, and the Court will conduct an in camera review of those submissions to preserve their privilege and confidentiality protections pending a Court determination. |
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Reply #359 posted 04/05/17 6:09pm
tmo1965 |
80tomato said:
Prince said , in an early Rolling Stone article , that his Dad ,John L. had lots of girlfriends
Carlin's mom was barely legal when Carlin was born. So, if Carlin is really Prince's brother, that means that John L was dirty old man like his son Prince was. |
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