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Thread started 02/11/17 7:14pm

thebanishedone

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Prince and Owen Husney

Why did Prince say in interview with Larry King that name of his first manager escapes him?

it cant be that he forgot it.was there an argument or something?

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Reply #1 posted 02/11/17 7:33pm

FlyOnTheWall

That was classic Prince shade.

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Reply #2 posted 02/11/17 7:39pm

Dibblekins

But why..?

Husney seemed incredibly fond of P and seemed to sincerely want the best for him.

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Reply #3 posted 02/11/17 8:05pm

PennyPurple

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I noticed that also.

Husney was really upset about the loss of Prince.

It's a shame that Prince did that.

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Reply #4 posted 02/11/17 8:16pm

FlyOnTheWall

Who knows what went on within those relationships? Perhaps P had good reason to answer in such a way.

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Reply #5 posted 02/11/17 8:47pm

laytonian

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Husney had a partner/investor named Davidson, there was Pepe Willie, there was Morris' mom and other short-timers. Even Chris Moon did some management. .

...and P was always nervous in interviews.
It might have been an actual lapse.
[Edited 2/11/17 20:50pm]
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Reply #6 posted 02/11/17 8:53pm

FlyOnTheWall

laytonian said:

. Husney had a partner/investor named Davidson, there was Pepe Willie, there was Morris' mom and other short-timers. Even Chris Moon did some management. . ...and P was always nervous in interviews. It might have been an actual lapse. [Edited 2/11/17 20:50pm]

Prince might have actually forgotten, but I doubt it. P had a mind like a steel trap.

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Reply #7 posted 02/11/17 9:05pm

rednblue

Zach Hoskins wrote about some of this in his blog. Looking back on it all from the outside, it does seem sad. https://princesongs.org/2.../miss-you/

[Edited 2/11/17 21:07pm]

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Reply #8 posted 02/11/17 9:26pm

laytonian

FlyOnTheWall said:



laytonian said:


. Husney had a partner/investor named Davidson, there was Pepe Willie, there was Morris' mom and other short-timers. Even Chris Moon did some management. . ...and P was always nervous in interviews. It might have been an actual lapse. [Edited 2/11/17 20:50pm]

Prince might have actually forgotten, but I doubt it. P had a mind like a steel trap.



Not forgotten...But more of not wanting to finish a sentence when several people think they were that.
I'd rather not think he was that cruel.
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Reply #9 posted 02/11/17 9:34pm

FlyOnTheWall

laytonian said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Prince might have actually forgotten, but I doubt it. P had a mind like a steel trap.

Not forgotten...But more of not wanting to finish a sentence when several people think they were that. I'd rather not think he was that cruel.

Oh, I see what you mean. I know that Pepe was married to Prince's cousin and had him to play with his band on a couple of records and Morris Day's mom acted in a management capacity for Grand Central. Still, isn't it well-documented that Owen Husney was P's first manager, who brokered the Warner Bros. deal?

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Reply #10 posted 02/11/17 9:41pm

TrivialPursuit

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Owen Husney note: He went on to manage Jesse Johnson for quite few years.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #11 posted 02/11/17 9:42pm

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It was completely unnecessary shade, and who knows why Prince chose to be a dick in that moment? Husney got Prince the best deal in history for a newly signed artist.

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Reply #12 posted 02/11/17 11:55pm

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JudasLChrist said:

It was completely unnecessary shade, and who knows why Prince chose to be a dick in that moment? Husney got Prince the best deal in history for a newly signed artist.

Not one of his more endearing qualities for sure sad Owen and his wife both seemed very fond of him and worked very hard for him when they were involved.

It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #13 posted 02/12/17 1:56am

Robert3rd

FlyOnTheWall said:



laytonian said:


. Husney had a partner/investor named Davidson, there was Pepe Willie, there was Morris' mom and other short-timers. Even Chris Moon did some management. . ...and P was always nervous in interviews. It might have been an actual lapse. [Edited 2/11/17 20:50pm]

Prince might have actually forgotten, but I doubt it. P had a mind like a steel trap.


RE: Prince's mind being like a steel trap, let me posit this. Pretend Prince had a modicum of business acumen. Now pretend he realized he was on CNN, giving an interview. CNN, AOL, Warner's were all owned by the conglomerate AOLTIMEWARNER. Now pretend this "great contract," from the 70's had a NDA clause, or a golden parachute clause. If PRN mentions OH's name, and some ambitious author, reporter, journalist, etc. wanted to get a side of the story that was an antithesis to PRN's...
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Reply #14 posted 02/12/17 2:06am

jayseajay

rednblue said:

Zach Hoskins wrote about some of this in his blog. Looking back on it all from the outside, it does seem sad. https://princesongs.org/2.../miss-you/

[Edited 2/11/17 21:07pm]

It is. My take: ppl who found themself in a parental position in relation to P and then disappointed/frustrated him in some way were likely to have him act out much more extremely than would seem normal. I think that applies to WB as well. And may have something to do with the fact that he didn't have anyone in that position in the last half of his life.

Not like I love my guitar....
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Reply #15 posted 02/12/17 3:07am

FlyOnTheWall

Here's a great interview with Owen Husney, who now teaches at UCLA and is working on his memoir. He tells great Prince stories but ends with, perhaps, a clue as to why Prince might have been unhappy with him. According to Husney, it seems that Prince felt, for lack of a better word, deserted by him. At least, that's my takeaway from this delicious interview. Below is what I think is the most relative portion, relative to the OP's question.

What is your most treasured piece of Prince memorabilia?

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It's probably a letter that he wrote to me. I don't want to go into it, but it was a great letter, and in it, he professed his love for me, and what he wanted to do. It was probably right around the time we were breaking up. I didn't want to carry on, I felt I had done my job: to take somebody who had never been in a studio, practically, and make all this happen. There was a point when I just didn't want to do it anymore, and so I told him I was out. And he wrote me a long letter. At the time, I thought, “God, now he's just turned into this ugly prima donna.” I realized retrospectively now that he really needed that kind of support. And he really needed these things to be done [for him] so he could put himself 150 percent into the music. I don't have a whole ton of stuff, but what I have is pretty uniquely interesting. And that letter will never go anywhere. It will probably be with me until I die. Read More...

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Reply #16 posted 02/12/17 6:35am

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FlyOnTheWall said:

Here's a great interview with Owen Husney, who now teaches at UCLA and is working on his memoir. He tells great Prince stories but ends with, perhaps, a clue as to why Prince might have been unhappy with him. According to Husney, it seems that Prince felt, for lack of a better word, deserted by him. At least, that's my takeaway from this delicious interview. Below is what I think is the most relative portion, relative to the OP's question.

What is your most treasured piece of Prince memorabilia?


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It's probably a letter that he wrote to me. I don't want to go into it, but it was a great letter, and in it, he professed his love for me, and what he wanted to do. It was probably right around the time we were breaking up. I didn't want to carry on, I felt I had done my job: to take somebody who had never been in a studio, practically, and make all this happen. There was a point when I just didn't want to do it anymore, and so I told him I was out. And he wrote me a long letter. At the time, I thought, “God, now he's just turned into this ugly prima donna.” I realized retrospectively now that he really needed that kind of support. And he really needed these things to be done [for him] so he could put himself 150 percent into the music. I don't have a whole ton of stuff, but what I have is pretty uniquely interesting. And that letter will never go anywhere. It will probably be with me until I die. Read More...


---This backs up what Pepe Willie said sbout speaking to Owen about a few things Prince needed and Owen saying he had advertising agency business to take care of and did not have time for some singer. Pepe want back and told Owen what Prince said. The next day Prince fired him. For someone who had no businees acumen he knew enough to get rid of a manager who was getting 10% of the income who does not believe in his vision. Prince was not always right but he was not always wrong.
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Reply #17 posted 02/12/17 6:37am

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jayseajay said:



rednblue said:


Zach Hoskins wrote about some of this in his blog. Looking back on it all from the outside, it does seem sad. https://princesongs.org/2.../miss-you/


[Edited 2/11/17 21:07pm]



It is. My take: ppl who found themself in a parental position in relation to P and then disappointed/frustrated him in some way were likely to have him act out much more extremely than would seem normal. I think that applies to WB as well. And may have something to do with the fact that he didn't have anyone in that position in the last half of his life.


//He had people in his life according to Elisa Forillo. She said he knew people cared.
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Reply #18 posted 02/12/17 6:45am

jayseajay

laurarichardson said:

jayseajay said:

It is. My take: ppl who found themself in a parental position in relation to P and then disappointed/frustrated him in some way were likely to have him act out much more extremely than would seem normal. I think that applies to WB as well. And may have something to do with the fact that he didn't have anyone in that position in the last half of his life.

//He had people in his life according to Elisa Forillo. She said he knew people cared.

I didn't say he didn't have people who cared, there were clearly a ton of people who cared. That's different from people who are in a parental position i.e. who care and have some authority/control over you. And I'm not saying it's bad that he didn't have that, although arguably there also were relatively few people who cared and were in a position of equality with him, and that might have been.

Not like I love my guitar....
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Reply #19 posted 02/12/17 7:00am

luvgirl

FlyOnTheWall said:

That was classic Prince shade.




lol I thought the same thing. I couldn't help but laugh when he said that. I was like, really Prince?? I'm sure he had his reasons for throwing it. I'm fairly positive there is a ton of stuff that went down in his life that we don't know about...
[Edited 2/12/17 7:15am]
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Reply #20 posted 02/12/17 7:53am

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Would something like this really bother Owen Husney that much?
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Reply #21 posted 02/12/17 8:13am

laytonian

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Would something like this really bother Owen Husney that much?

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I doubt it. I'd think OH rolled his eyes and said "that's so Princey" like we all do.

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Reply #22 posted 02/12/17 9:16am

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laytonian said:



rogifan said:


Would something like this really bother Owen Husney that much?

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I doubt it. I'd think OH rolled his eyes and said "that's so Princey" like we all do.


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While failing to mention he was not rally interested in managing Prince anymore😳
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Reply #23 posted 02/24/17 6:26pm

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FlyOnTheWall said:

That was classic Prince shade.


His callous response caught me off guard. I thought, "Wow, this guy is selfish and vengeful."

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Reply #24 posted 02/24/17 7:11pm

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NOt that simple.

It sounds like the breakup was a combination of Prince's impatience with the progress of his career and his distrust of his manager, Willie's instigation/manipulation and Owen's ambivalence. Prince's ego wasn't the only one that was the problem. Lots of misunderstanding and no one with enough humility to talk it out. Owen and his wife may have done much for Prince, but they still got their 10%. Business and personal feelings when intermingled are often hazy. Imagine what Prince thought when Willie relayed the message that Prince was just some 'singer' Owen wasn't that interested in. Its one thing for OWen to explain to Prince that his job can't and shouldn't be getting him space heaters, its another thing to act as if Prince was no more than a meal ticket to him (and secondary to his other job). NOt saying Owen did that, but I am saying that is the impression Prince probably had (due to either Owen's words or Pepe's version of his words). Owen was right in that it was probably more painful and hurtful of a break than just the breakup of a manager and an artist. But what many fail to consider is that it was probably just as painful for Prince. (thus, the long letter, the inconsistent attitude Prince had toward Owen in later years.)

Plus, Owen has been interviewed about Prince while he was still alive. Maybe he was being interviewed in 1999 and Prince took a disliking to the fact.

Identity said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

That was classic Prince shade.


His callous response caught me off guard. I thought, "Wow, this guy is selfish and vengeful."

[Edited 2/24/17 19:31pm]

[Edited 2/24/17 19:34pm]

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Reply #25 posted 02/27/17 2:37pm

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laytonian said:

rogifan said:

Would something like this really bother Owen Husney that much?

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I doubt it. I'd think OH rolled his eyes and said "that's so Princey" like we all do.

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I dunno...Owen seemed pretty cheesed out about it when he was on that What Killed Prince doc that just premiered on REELZ.

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