6. What if Prince had not been born...

I think without 3 there's no 4 and possibly even no 5.

CherryMoon57 said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Prince's popularity was on a downswing before Batman. I think people forget that. Batman thrust him back into popularity.

I agree with the sentiment that doing a blockbuster soundtrack album was kinda . . . beneath him? I would've never thought during Purple Rain that 5 years later he'd be doing a Batman soundtrack.

I think #2 on your list is the one that was his commercial undoing, but #3 was his personal undoing.

jaypotton said:

CherryMoon57 said:

6. What if Prince had not been born...

Thank you for that valuable contribution. Who knows what we would do without such amazing insight!

Oh well you know it's not easy to isolate bits out of someone's life in order to imagine it differently. Each life is part of a whole series of intertwined events and circumstances from the moment we're born... If anything I think his life and career may have been a lot shorter had he not had the spiritual support he got after the traumatic loss of his son...

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TheEnglishGent said:

Se7en said:

CherryMoon57 said:

6. What if Prince had not been born...

That was good.

If Prince hadn't become a Jehovah's Witness, he'd actually probably would have died sooner (like, 2000). Didn't seem like he was doing well before hand. If Amir was ok, then I think he either still would've ended up divorcing Mayte and been kind of an absent father or he would've actually stopped making music every few years. If he doesn't die last year, he roles out a ton of projects this year and over the course of the next and becomes more involved in the TV/Movie industry (wasn't he trying to make a kid's show?). We see his music in Guitar Hero and he supports Tidal. If he doesn't go after his RIGHTS in 1992, then artists are treated even worse today than they are now by the record companies.

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TheEnglishGent said:

I think without 3 there's no 4 and possibly even no 5.

I totally agree. I ask myself all the time what Prince's life might have been like had Ahmir lived or had he had other children with Mayte.

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AnonymousFan said:

AnonymousFan said:

If Prince hadn't become a Jehovah's Witness, he'd actually probably would have died sooner (like, 2000). Didn't seem like he was doing well before hand. If Amir was ok, then I think he either still would've ended up divorcing Mayte and been kind of an absent father or he would've actually stopped making music every few years. If he doesn't die last year, he roles out a ton of projects this year and over the course of the next and becomes more involved in the TV/Movie industry (wasn't he trying to make a kid's show?). We see his music in Guitar Hero and he supports Tidal. If he doesn't go after his RIGHTS in 1992, then artists are treated even worse today than they are now by the record companies.

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U R so wrong about the kind of father that Prince would have been. He put Ahmir's heartbeat on "Sex in the Summer" and he built a freaking playroom at Paisley Park for Ahmir and other future children that he and Mayte wanted. He and Mayte were planning to release an album and a book called Happy Tears. Everything that we know suggests that he wanted 2 be an involved father. Have U heard the song "Comeback"? He was so broken over the loss of his son. Prince had his flaws, just as all humans do. But to even suggest that Prince would have been an absent father is completely disrespectful of him and his legacy.

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206Michelle said:

214 said:

AnonymousFan said:

jaypotton said:

214 said:

That was good.

I love the way newbies add value to discussion #sarcasm

Great isn't?

214 said:

jaypotton said:

214 said:

Great isn't?

Did you mean "Great isn't IT?" I don't know, these youngsters have no grasp of grammar!

Stop bitching.

AnonymousFan said:

206Michelle said:

U R so wrong about the kind of father that Prince would have been. He put Ahmir's heartbeat on "Sex in the Summer" and he built a freaking playroom at Paisley Park for Ahmir and other future children that he and Mayte wanted. He and Mayte were planning to release an album and a book called Happy Tears. Everything that we know suggests that he wanted 2 be an involved father. Have U heard the song "Comeback"? He was so broken over the loss of his son. Prince had his flaws, just as all humans do. But to even suggest that Prince would have been an absent father is completely disrespectful of him and his legacy.

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He would've been a good father the first few years, but Prince had a tendency to get really excited about things (people in particular) and then drop them completely. I question whether or not he's beyond doing that to a kid. If his relationship with Mayte deteriorated (like all of his relationships seem to do and he seems to act really butthurt), I could see him being at least as bad as his own father. [Edited 2/21/17 23:04pm]

If you have nothing good to say, say nothing at all. Some folks from broken or dysfunctional homes lack comprehension involving blood family love life relations, which is why they should refrain from commenting with poor speculation about people they know nothing about.

Prince loved being a father and he loved and adored that little boy. Touring, traveling to foreign lands, or even wife performing in tight stage clothing could have been a factor. Had their baby lived, I think the marriage would've survived and they would've had more children. The whole world knew Prince as a hardworking rocker musician, but being a husband and father was important to him. There are so many people who are jealous of this man and his achievements, it's unbelievable. I honor and admire Prince for being a real man who lived for LOVE.

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PRNluv2 said:

AnonymousFan said:

206Michelle said: He would've been a good father the first few years, but Prince had a tendency to get really excited about things (people in particular) and then drop them completely. I question whether or not he's beyond doing that to a kid. If his relationship with Mayte deteriorated (like all of his relationships seem to do and he seems to act really butthurt), I could see him being at least as bad as his own father. [Edited 2/21/17 23:04pm]

If you have nothing good to say, say nothing at all. Some folks from broken or dysfunctional homes lack comprehension involving blood family love life relations, which is why they should refrain from commenting with poor speculation about people they know nothing about.

Prince loved being a father and he loved and adored that little boy. Touring, traveling to foreign lands, or even wife performing in tight stage clothing could have been a factor. Had their baby lived, I think the marriage would've survived and they would've had more children. The whole world knew Prince as a hardworking rocker musician, but being a husband and father was important to him. There are so many people who are jealous of this man and his achievements, it's unbelievable. I honor and admire Prince for being a real man who lived for LOVE.

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I like to think great things about Prince, too. I love Prince as much as anybody else here. But, I know that if you graded him on intimacy, he'd have gotten an F. It seems when it came to legitimate love - anything more than singing about it - he failed abysmally. He cheated on every woman he was with, his familial relationships were strained from what we know, he would make and drop friends on the fly, and from what we hear he had kind of a mean streak. No doubt Prince was excited about his kid and wanted everything in the world for him, but I don't think he had the ability to commit to his child in a meaningful, longlasting way that would be indicative of love as we know it. I don't think he had the ability to commit to anybody. I think what Prince thought was love and what is love are two different things that happen to sound similar through a microphone.

I think to say anything else, one must not be having a good look a Prince's known actions and inclinations.

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214 said:

God was one of us

couldn't resist

AnonymousFan said:

I thought Prince was at the peak of his popularity before Batman was released? I distinctly remember reading in an interview with Tim Burton that Warner Bros. forced him to include Prince music into the Batman soundtrack and that he (burton) wasn't happy about that. I think there was an entire scene written into the movie (the one with Nicholson in the parade throwing fake money at the crowd while 'Trust' is played) just to feature 'Trust'. If you watch that scene it's actually pretty weak and really feels like it was just thrown into the movie. It feels rushed. Prince was drawn to Batman because he identified with the two sides of Bruce Wayne/Batman. Prince was a Gemini ('I've got two sides and they both friends') and even named his character in the Batman videos Gemini. I do remember there being flack when Batdance was released- radio deejays were complainign about the song that there was hardly any singing in it, just an over-extended guitar solo (which 'they' ended up slicing down so it was more radio friendly). I thought that the backlash started after Batman was released?

CherryMoon57 said:

6. What if Prince had not been born...

Perish the thought!