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Thread started 02/23/17 4:02pm

bluegangsta

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Your idea for a "budget release"

You're incharge of one project. You have to spend as little money as possible, but still do someothing great. What's your product?

Mine would be mixing versions of just Prince's vocals and orchestra arrangements. The only main expense would be the engineer.

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Reply #1 posted 02/23/17 6:53pm

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Interesting idea.

You could also add the tracks that originally had orchestration on them that got taken off before release. Such as "New Position" (which I've shared some information on before) and "Sometimes It Snows in April". "Others Here With Us" is another one that has orchestration in an unheard version, although the track wasn't released in any form.



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Reply #2 posted 02/23/17 7:26pm

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Militant said:

Interesting idea.

You could also add the tracks that originally had orchestration on them that got taken off before release. Such as "New Position" (which I've shared some information on before) and "Sometimes It Snows in April". "Others Here With Us" is another one that has orchestration in an unheard version, although the track wasn't released in any form.

I had considered that, but I didn't know if they were fit for release. razz

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Reply #3 posted 02/24/17 12:39am

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I thought everyone here agreed that P's songs shouldn't be toyed with by remixers?

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Reply #4 posted 02/24/17 12:43am

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databank said:

I thought everyone here agreed that P's songs shouldn't be toyed with by remixers?

Who gives a shit?

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Reply #5 posted 02/24/17 5:09am

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bluegangsta said:

databank said:

I thought everyone here agreed that P's songs shouldn't be toyed with by remixers?

Who gives a shit?

My point is if we don't want it why do we make dream tracklists for it? lol

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Reply #6 posted 02/24/17 6:27am

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databank said:

bluegangsta said:

Who gives a shit?

My point is if we don't want it why do we make dream tracklists for it? lol

Because unless you're arrogant enough to speak for everyone here, some people may have ideas of their own?

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Reply #7 posted 02/24/17 7:36am

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bluegangsta said:

databank said:

My point is if we don't want it why do we make dream tracklists for it? lol

Because unless you're arrogant enough to speak for everyone here, some people may have ideas of their own?

I thought we were cool.

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Reply #8 posted 02/24/17 12:36pm

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I'd maybe put out an album of instrumental-only versions of tracks (like the version of SOTT that plays over the end-credits of the film).
Shouldn't be too expensive/difficult and it's all Prince!
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Reply #9 posted 02/24/17 2:14pm

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bluegangsta said:

Militant said:

Interesting idea.

You could also add the tracks that originally had orchestration on them that got taken off before release. Such as "New Position" (which I've shared some information on before) and "Sometimes It Snows in April". "Others Here With Us" is another one that has orchestration in an unheard version, although the track wasn't released in any form.

I had considered that, but I didn't know if they were fit for release. razz

They are mixed, and the mixes (in terms of the instrument balance) are comparable to the tracks on Parade that had the orchestration left on, but they aren't mastered.

They need a proper remaster from the stems...... like a great deal of Prince's catalog does, but even more so because they weren't mastered in the first place.

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Reply #10 posted 02/24/17 11:57pm

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BlackCandle said:

I'd maybe put out an album of instrumental-only versions of tracks (like the version of SOTT that plays over the end-credits of the film). Shouldn't be too expensive/difficult and it's all Prince!

As a fan I could enjoy such versions but that'd still be messing-up with P's tracks at the end of the day. Of course to some extent releasing anything he did not choose to release, particularly early cuts of songs, can be deemed disrespectful by some and may mean putting out things he wouldn't have wanted out, but at least they'd be as he envisioned them at a certain point in time. On the other hand messing-up with existing mixes by removing certain element is hardly different from having a remixer adding elements. If there is no existing instrumental version of a song in the vault, it means that Prince recorded vocals alongside instruments, and that he never envisioned the song as an instrumental. I mean I'm sure in competent hands some songs could also be remixed with awesome results, see for example the job Bill Laswell did with Miles, Marley, Alice Coltrane and Santana. But do I want to hear this? I'd say no, if only because any such release would be released instead of a genuine Prince recording, and given that there's enough material in the vault to keep us busy for a century, I'd rather hear as much of it as I can before I, myself, pass. And I fail to see how releasing tapes as such could be more expensive than paying someone to mess with them.

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I may sound a little picky but we're dealing with extremely sensitive issues about an artist's legacy. We've all seen record companies doing awful things with artists' catalogues. And we've all read dreadful ideas by certain fans here on the org. If hysterical fans were left to raid the vault and do as they please with the tapes, we'd end-up with the worst hysterical disaster in the history of arts since the Chinese cultural revolution. It'd be similar to releasing a hundred kindergarten children into a porcelain museum without adult supervision. People working on those tapes should be handling them with the deepest respect, and the higest possible professional standards.

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