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Thread started 02/15/17 12:14pm

rogifan

No When Doves Cry at Piano & Microphone shows

I was always a little surprised Prince didn't perform When Doves Cry at all during the Piano & Microphone shows. I wonder why. He performed nearly every other song off Purple Rain (except obviously Darling Nikki and Computer Blue). I think he could have done a beautiful version of it on piano. I wonder if there was a specific reason he chose not to perform it? confused
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Reply #1 posted 02/15/17 12:23pm

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There's very little harmonic content in that song (pretty much drums and vocals for the most part) and the melody is pretty much consisting of only two notes, which makes it tricky to do it as a piano/vocal track - although seeing how he often reinvents arrangements for songs live, there's no reason why he couldn't have done the same for this one.

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Reply #2 posted 02/15/17 12:29pm

rogifan

jjam said:

There's very little harmonic content in that song (pretty much drums and vocals for the most part) and the melody is pretty much consisting of only two notes, which makes it tricky to do it as a piano/vocal track - although seeing how he often reinvents arrangements for songs live, there's no reason why he couldn't have done the same for this one.


True. I just love the song and think it got short shrift during live performances. I hated it just being part of a sampler set.

This version that a choir of 2,000 people did is amazing.
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Reply #3 posted 02/15/17 12:29pm

Madhouse6

I thought I saw a clip of him performing WDC on the tour - may in Oz?
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Reply #4 posted 02/15/17 12:46pm

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no you didnt

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Reply #5 posted 02/15/17 12:52pm

rogifan

Madhouse6 said:

I thought I saw a clip of him performing WDC on the tour - may in Oz?

I wish but I don't think he did anywhere. And the only show I don't have audio of (New Zealand) is the only show where he performed The Ladder. Dang the estate needs to release these shows!
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Reply #6 posted 02/15/17 12:57pm

NorthC

He didn't perform it live very much at all. He did it on the PR, Parade, SOTT and Lovesexy tours and (very) occasionally at the Nude tour, but after that... Maybe he thought it just didn't work in concert?
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Reply #7 posted 02/15/17 1:27pm

Shockedelicus

According to people I've heard from on the Org, When Doves Cry does sound a little weird live, lacks the epic quality of the album version. He probably wasn't fully satisfied with how it sounded, so he excluded it from most of his post-80's tours.

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Reply #8 posted 02/15/17 1:29pm

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It was frequently in sampler sets, I'm like more than certain. Big loves everyone.
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Reply #9 posted 02/15/17 1:45pm

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When Doves Cry will always be one of my favorite Prince songs. I still have the special edition 45 of it in purple vinyl. I paid 99 cents for it in 1984.
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Reply #10 posted 02/15/17 1:46pm

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rogifan said:

jjam said:

There's very little harmonic content in that song (pretty much drums and vocals for the most part) and the melody is pretty much consisting of only two notes, which makes it tricky to do it as a piano/vocal track - although seeing how he often reinvents arrangements for songs live, there's no reason why he couldn't have done the same for this one.


True. I just love the song and think it got short shrift during live performances. I hated it just being part of a sampler set.

This version that a choir of 2,000 people did is amazing.


THAT is a tribute!
Imagine if the Grammys had just had a fun sing-along!
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Reply #11 posted 02/15/17 1:55pm

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From what's lurking around...he did played WDC at a afterparty somewhere down under, at one of the P&M shows in Oakland and Montreal. However, it's just the sampler set version
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Reply #12 posted 02/15/17 2:12pm

rogifan

I swear he performed it (or at least parts of it) during the Musicology your. I only remember it because I didn't like it. lol
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Reply #13 posted 02/15/17 7:06pm

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rogifan said:

Madhouse6 said:
I thought I saw a clip of him performing WDC on the tour - may in Oz?
I wish but I don't think he did anywhere. And the only show I don't have audio of (New Zealand) is the only show where he performed The Ladder. Dang the estate needs to release these shows!

He did play the Ladder at the 2nd Paisley Park show. My friends and I were talking about what songs we wanted to hear and that was at the top of my list.

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Reply #14 posted 02/15/17 7:08pm

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rogifan said:

I swear he performed it (or at least parts of it) during the Musicology your. I only remember it because I didn't like it. lol

Yep. He almost did the whole Purple Rain album on that tour. I love the Nude Tour version of When Doves Cry. IMO Purple Rain tour was the best version though.

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Reply #15 posted 02/15/17 7:12pm

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rogifan said:

jjam said:

There's very little harmonic content in that song (pretty much drums and vocals for the most part) and the melody is pretty much consisting of only two notes, which makes it tricky to do it as a piano/vocal track - although seeing how he often reinvents arrangements for songs live, there's no reason why he couldn't have done the same for this one.


True. I just love the song and think it got short shrift during live performances. I hated it just being part of a sampler set.

This version that a choir of 2,000 people did is amazing.


Several of my friends were part of that event! I would have gone too, but my daughter was just about 3 weeks old and we had our hands full.
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Reply #16 posted 02/15/17 8:27pm

PR4Life

He played it at the Oakland P and M show. I remember him saying something like: (in a funny voice) I told my self I wasn't going to do this but Bay Area you making me feel so good i just..... And then the guitar played and we all started singing with him
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Reply #17 posted 02/15/17 10:54pm

rogifan

PR4Life said:

He played it at the Oakland P and M show. I remember him saying something like: (in a funny voice) I told my self I wasn't going to do this but Bay Area you making me feel so good i just..... And then the guitar played and we all started singing with him

Which show? At Oracle arena? I have the other Oakland shows and he didn't play it at either of them. And I didn't think he used guitar at all in these shows unless he was doing something like the sampler set?
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Reply #18 posted 02/15/17 10:58pm

rogifan

motherfunka said:



rogifan said:


Madhouse6 said:
I thought I saw a clip of him performing WDC on the tour - may in Oz?

I wish but I don't think he did anywhere. And the only show I don't have audio of (New Zealand) is the only show where he performed The Ladder. Dang the estate needs to release these shows!



He did play the Ladder at the 2nd Paisley Park show. My friends and I were talking about what songs we wanted to hear and that was at the top of my list.


Ooh you're right he did! Goes to listen to it right now...
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Reply #19 posted 02/16/17 12:59am

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rogifan said:

PR4Life said:

He played it at the Oakland P and M show. I remember him saying something like: (in a funny voice) I told my self I wasn't going to do this but Bay Area you making me feel so good i just..... And then the guitar played and we all started singing with him

Which show? At Oracle arena? I have the other Oakland shows and he didn't play it at either of them. And I didn't think he used guitar at all in these shows unless he was doing something like the sampler set?

It was the sampler according to Prince Vault... http://princevault.com/in...March_2016

And here's the concert reviews to confirm it... http://prince.org/msg/12/422179

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Reply #20 posted 02/16/17 2:05am

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I just heard in my head how he could've dove it. Prince style, of course.
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Reply #21 posted 02/16/17 3:19am

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I thought I heard him say that his mother didn't like the lyrics to WDC...maybe considering the intimacy of the show and the tributes to his father, he felt it didn't work.
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Reply #22 posted 02/16/17 8:50am

rogifan

After hearing WDC at Oracle I'm glad he didn't do it at any other show. The sampler set version just doesn't fit. I do wish he did The Ladder at more shows. So amazing. Also amazing is Act of God/Unchain My Heart from Sydney. πŸ‘ŒπŸ»
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Reply #23 posted 02/16/17 3:55pm

FlyOnTheWall

He did a full version of WDC at one, perhaps both, of the Welcome2Canada shows in Toronto in 2011. It was wonderful and he looked absolutely gorgeous.

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Reply #24 posted 03/13/17 1:32pm

Madhouse6

motherfunka said:



rogifan said:


Madhouse6 said:
I thought I saw a clip of him performing WDC on the tour - may in Oz?

I wish but I don't think he did anywhere. And the only show I don't have audio of (New Zealand) is the only show where he performed The Ladder. Dang the estate needs to release these shows!



He did play the Ladder at the 2nd Paisley Park show. My friends and I were talking about what songs we wanted to hear and that was at the top of my list.




Yes - I was there and in tears with many others when he played The Ladder - definitely a highlight from all the shows I've lucky enough to see
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Reply #25 posted 03/13/17 1:56pm

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rogifan said:

Madhouse6 said:

I thought I saw a clip of him performing WDC on the tour - may in Oz?

I wish but I don't think he did anywhere. And the only show I don't have audio of (New Zealand) is the only show where he performed The Ladder. Dang the estate needs to release these shows!


I was there. Got the audio too. wink
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Reply #26 posted 03/13/17 9:06pm

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I have a video of Prince singing When Doves Cry in concert in Tokyo in approximately 1990.

And it is spectacular.

lol

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Reply #27 posted 03/14/17 3:02am

bsprout

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I have a video of Prince singing When Doves Cry in concert in Tokyo in approximately 1990.


And it is spectacular.


lol



Lucky you! Those Tokyo concerts were so good.
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Reply #28 posted 03/14/17 2:01pm

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rogifan said:

After hearing WDC at Oracle I'm glad he didn't do it at any other show. The sampler set version just doesn't fit. I do wish he did The Ladder at more shows. So amazing. Also amazing is Act of God/Unchain My Heart from Sydney. πŸ‘ŒπŸ» [Edited 2/16/17 9:13am]

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