Shameless Maya's video was fine. In fact I am grateful to her for giving us an honest, accurate picture of some of who Prince was, which is what she said she wanted to do by self-videoing, rather than have her words be edited inaccurately by the media. She obviously was very grateful to Prince and had the courage to speak about him as a real human being.

FlyOnTheWall said:

Unfortunately some women don't know the meaning of respect and being classy.

anangellooksdown said:

Shameless Maya's video was fine. In fact I am grateful to her for giving us an honest, accurate picture of some of who Prince was, which is what she said she wanted to do by self-videoing, rather than have her words be edited inaccurately by the media. She obviously was very grateful to Prince and had the courage to speak about him as a real human being.

If you will read more carefully, you will find that I did not mention Shameless Maya's video, which I thought was just about pitch perfect. Indeed, I wish she had stopped there. My comments are in regards to quotes attributed to her in GQ Magazine.

rogifan said:

Yes, you said this already on the previous page, Rogifan.
Maybe it is we who should ask ourselves if we are being respectful and classy to Prince's associates.
I think some are being just a bit to harsh with this young lady.
[Edited 2/23/17 5:09am]

FlyOnTheWall said:

Shameless Maya did a video about Pitch Perfect? I was talking about the video she put out right after Prince's passing. I can't find any such video. Would you provide a link, please?

Edit: I thought her quotes in GQ Magazine were a little off the top, but nothing awful. If they were true, and I believe she wouldn't lie for such an article, then she is simply one person who was willing to reveal a little bit more about the fact that Prince loved the ladies, and they him!
[Edited 2/23/17 5:22am]

anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

If you will read more carefully, you will find that I did not mention Shameless Maya's video, which I thought was just about pitch perfect. Indeed, I wish she had stopped there. My comments are in regards to quotes attributed to her in GQ Magazine.

Shameless Maya did a video about Pitch Perfect? I was talking about the video she put out right after Prince's passing. I can't find any such video. Would you provide a link, please?

Again, I was not referring to Shameless Maya's video in my initial comments. Rather, I was referencing her recent comments in this GQ Magazine article.

Prince’s Closest Friend...ce Stories

Lastly, I used "pitch perfect" as a descriptor, not as a reference to Andy Allo's upcoming movie. See below.

FlyOnTheWall said:

None of that changes my initial feelings or comments. That is already the information I was basing them on. I do understand however, your attempts to shove me beneath you in intelligence by citing definitions of terms from the dictionary. I'm sorry you feel I'm above you.
[Edited 2/23/17 5:56am]

WeDaBest said:

At the Oakland concert on March 4, 2016, when singing "Nothing Compares To You", Prince sings..."tell me Tam'ron where did Prince go wrong". Has anyone else heard this? I definitely think there was more to that relationship than we know.

I looked at this Oracle clip yesterday(a few times to be sure ) and I think I hear him say that too...! It kinda sounds like he's saying "Tay-mron", but yes, to me it sounds different to me than just singing "Tell me, where did Prince go wrong..."

anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

None of that changes my initial feelings or comments. That is already the information I was basing them on. I do understand however, your attempts to shove me beneath you in intelligence by citing definitions of terms from the dictionary. I'm sorry you feel I'm above you. [Edited 2/23/17 5:56am]

Okay.

anangellooksdown said:

Right. To. The. End! Good for him!! As Maya said, he was a "G". All the way 🙂😊❤💕

anangellooksdown said:

Shameless Maya's video was fine. In fact I am grateful to her for giving us an honest, accurate picture of some of who Prince was, which is what she said she wanted to do by self-videoing, rather than have her words be edited inaccurately by the media. She obviously was very grateful to Prince and had the courage to speak about him as a real human being.

Thank you for your comment Angel...! Well said...!

SayItsJustADream said:

Thanks Dream 🤗
A lot of older men and women close friends and band mates of Prince have shared their perspectives. So I'm fine with this young lady.

O.k. Here goes...I am wondering why people are upset with different women speaking out about their personal experience with prince, weather it was proffesional, friendly or more? Many many people have spoken of their relationship with him since his passing, which never seems to stir up the troops,unless it is a young women saying prince was interested in her. And I wonder why some of the same people trashing these ladies think it is fine for AA to post a picture shortly after his death, with what you have described as an engagement ring, probably hundreds of times. if prince wanted everyone to know he was engaged to AA he would have told us, so how come she is not in the same category as the others who have told secrets since his passing? isn't secretly being engaged a bigger secret to spill, than "he tried to hold my hand". And the same people that are not happy with these ladies giving details of their experience, have also posted many many times about wishing AA would let everyone know what was really going on with her and prince? Seems a little unfair.
[Edited 2/23/17 6:25am]

anangellooksdown said:

Again this is just my opinion. Also I wasn't crazy about Adrian Crutchfield telling Funkenberry that some of the horns players snuck booze into Paisley Park. Maybe some find that an amusing or cute anecdote but I think it's best kept secret and again something he wouldn't have said were Prince still alive.

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

THANK YOU. Exactly my thoughts.
Which is worse? Being open and transparent, or letting rumors of being engaged to the person continue?
I happen to not think they were engaged. I think that photo was an ultimately unused promo for the W2 Tour.

rogifan said:

On one hand I agree, Rogifan. On the other hand I ask myself, "Why have any secrets?" Prince is safe where he is now. I don't think he minds us talking about him to get a picture of who he was, as long as we love him.
If people are using him for gain by talking about him, and they say they love and respect him, I think that's something different.
So we will all have our different viewpoints of just how far to go. 🤗

anangellooksdown said:

Yep. I guess the way I look at it is if it's something you wouldn't say if he was still alive don't say it when he's gone. The only thing I might exclude from this is his charitable giving.

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

O.k. Here goes...I am wondering why people are upset with different women speaking out about their personal experience with prince, weather it was proffesional, friendly or more? Many many people have spoken of their relationship with him since his passing, which never seems to stir up the troops,unless it is a young women saying prince was interested in her. And I wonder why some of the same people trashing these ladies think it is fine for AA to post a picture shortly after his death, with what you have described as an engagement ring, probably hundreds of times. if prince wanted everyone to know he was engaged to AA he would have told us, so how come she is not in the same category as the others who have told secrets since his passing? isn't secretly being engaged a bigger secret to spill, than "he tried to hold my hand". And the same people that are not happy with these ladies giving details of their experience, have also posted many many times about wishing AA would let everyone know what was really going on with her and prince? Seems a little unfair. [Edited 2/23/17 6:25am]

In that case, if Prince wanted us to know that he was engaged to Sheila, he would have told us about that too. Moreover, she would have worn a ring. And I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just pointing out the differences in how Prince (and the two women) handled these two relationships.

Plus, the fact that Prince had his personal photographer, Justine Walpole, take the portrait in question--the one with AA wearing his diamond ring on her left ring finger--and that Andy Allo had the photo in her possession is an indication that he knew it existed...and that he would not mind it being released. Also, prior to his passing there were at least two photos of her wearing TWO different rings on her left finger during their time together. Not to mention, she wore them in the videos for "People Pleaser" and "Rocknroll Loveaffair." So, Prince didn't send out a press release about it, but he had Andy wearing his rings for the entire world to see. There's no denying that.

That said, I am not "trashing" anyone. In fact, I loved Maya's YouTube tribute to Prince. As I said earlier, I thought it was pitch-perfect. Her comments in GQ , however, are another story. Same thing with Kandace Springs. I thought her early reflections were cute, but as her story evolved, so did my reaction. Heck, I even started a thread about her a few months back. See for yourself.

One Tweet from Prince Cha...ED movies)

http://prince.org/msg/7/430261?pr

Lastly, I have gone on record, on numerous occasions, saying that I think Andy should remain mum with regard to her relationship with Prince. As I said, I think it will come out, I just don't think it should be from her or her family, IMHO. After all, Prince put his relationship with Andy on front street, in some ways like he had never done before, so he was obviously proud of their association.

OAN, before y'all accuse me of "hijacking" this thread, I did not bring AA into this conversation; however, I think this comment demanded a response. That is all.

[Edited 2/23/17 7:34am]

FlyOnTheWall said:

YOU called THAT photo an engagement photo, and said it was proof they were engaged. And just like the other ladies AA posted it after he passed. So now YOU are saying it is NOT engagement photo and proof of their pending nuptials?

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

In that case, if Prince wanted us to know that he was engaged to Sheila, he would have told us about that too. Moreover, she would have worn a ring. And I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just pointing out the differences in how Prince (and the two women) handled these two relationships.

Plus, the fact that Prince had his personal photographer, Justine Walpole, take the portrait in question--the one with AA wearing his diamond ring on her left ring finger--and that Andy Allo had it in her possession is an indication that he knew it existed and that he would not mind it being released. Also, prior to his passing there were at least two photos of her wearing TWO different rings on her left finger during their time together. Not to mention, she wore them in the videos for "People Pleaser" and "Rocknroll Loveaffair." So, Prince didn't send out a press release about it, but he had Andy wearing his rings for the entire world to see. There's no denying that.

That said, I loved Maya's YouTube tribute to Prince. As I said earlier, I thought it was pitch-perfect. Her comments in GQ are another story. Same thing with Kandace Springs. I thought her early reflections were cute, but as her story evolved, so did my reaction. Heck, I even started a thread about her a few months back. See for yourself.

One Tweet from Prince Cha...ED movies)

http://prince.org/msg/7/430261?pr

Lastly, I have gone on record, on numerous occasions, saying that I think Andy should remain mum with regard to her relationship with Prince. As I said, I think it will come out, I just don't think it should be from her or her family, IMHO. After all, Prince put his relationship with Andy on front street, in some ways like he had never done before, so he was obviously proud of their association.

OAN, before y'all accuse me of "hijacking" this thread, I did not bring AA into this conversation; however, I think this comment demanded a response. That is all.

YOU called THAT photo an engagement photo, and said it was proof they were engaged. And just like the other ladies AA posted it after he passed. So now YOU are saying it is NOT engagement photo and proof of their pending nuptials?

Get your facts straight, please. I raised the question about the nature of the photo, saying that it looks like a formal engagement or wedding announcement photo. Yes, I said that...and I meant it. Moreover, I started a thread that is presently hidden called "Were Prince and Andy Allo Betrothed?" That is a question, my fellow orger, not a statement of fact. And, BTW, I stand by that question.

FlyOnTheWall said:

FlyOnTheWall, three points:

1) Maybe, to your imminent chagrine, no one is watching your words so closely that they care about quoting you correctly.

2) How is it really, that you made sure this thread would be yet another place where people would talk about Andy

3) Do you have a job? A purpose? Anything to be spending your very good brain on that could help yourself or others in a right way? Because I know you have potential. I just think you are spending it on something that is not really worth your while.

PS I am not judging you. If you are homebound or something of that nature, I have some very good ideas and would love to share them with you anytime in friendship.

anangellooksdown said:

PS I am not judging you. If you are homebound or something of that nature, I have some very good ideas and would love to share them with you anytime in friendship.

Says the person who is on here just as much as I. Spare me your platitudes, please.

FlyOnTheWall said:

There are entire days I'm not here. I recognize when I need to take a break and I try to get out and enjoy this place we've been given to live. But there's more. So much more. I cannot share about it here, for obvious reasons.

Hint: I believe you have great spiritual potential.

anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Get your facts straight, please. I raised the question about the nature of the photo, saying that it looks like a formal engagement or wedding announcement photo. Yes, I said that...and I meant it. Moreover, I started a thread that is presently hidden called "Were Prince and Andy Allo Betrothed?" That is a question, my fellow orger, not a statement of fact. And, BTW, I stand by that question.

FlyOnTheWall, three points: 1) Maybe, to your imminent chagrine, no one is watching your words so closely that they care about quoting you correctly. 2) How is it really, that you made sure this thread would be yet another place where people would talk about Andy 3) Do you have a job? A purpose? Anything to be spending your very good brain on that could help yourself or others in a right way? Because I know you have potential. I just think you are spending it on something that is not really worth your while.

If you are going to try to step to me about something I supposedly said, then you need to get it right. That's a major problem in this world: Too many people don't listen. They just wanna be "right," when half the time, they don't even know what the other party is really saying.

[Snip - luv4u]

FlyOnTheWall said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

O.k. Here goes...I am wondering why people are upset with different women speaking out about their personal experience with prince, weather it was proffesional, friendly or more? Many many people have spoken of their relationship with him since his passing, which never seems to stir up the troops,unless it is a young women saying prince was interested in her. And I wonder why some of the same people trashing these ladies think it is fine for AA to post a picture shortly after his death, with what you have described as an engagement ring, probably hundreds of times. if prince wanted everyone to know he was engaged to AA he would have told us, so how come she is not in the same category as the others who have told secrets since his passing? isn't secretly being engaged a bigger secret to spill, than "he tried to hold my hand". And the same people that are not happy with these ladies giving details of their experience, have also posted many many times about wishing AA would let everyone know what was really going on with her and prince? Seems a little unfair. [Edited 2/23/17 6:25am]

In that case, if Prince wanted us to know that he was engaged to Sheila, he would have told us about that too. Moreover, she would have worn a ring. And I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just pointing out the differences in how Prince (and the two women) handled these two relationships.

Plus, the fact that Prince had his personal photographer, Justine Walpole, take the portrait in question--the one with AA wearing his diamond ring on her left ring finger--and that Andy Allo had the photo in her possession is an indication that he knew it existed...and that he would not mind it being released. Also, prior to his passing there were at least two photos of her wearing TWO different rings on her left finger during their time together. Not to mention, she wore them in the videos for "People Pleaser" and "Rocknroll Loveaffair." So, Prince didn't send out a press release about it, but he had Andy wearing his rings for the entire world to see. There's no denying that.

That said, I am not "trashing" anyone. In fact, I loved Maya's YouTube tribute to Prince. As I said earlier, I thought it was pitch-perfect. Her comments in GQ , however, are another story. Same thing with Kandace Springs. I thought her early reflections were cute, but as her story evolved, so did my reaction. Heck, I even started a thread about her a few months back. See for yourself.

One Tweet from Prince Cha...ED movies)

http://prince.org/msg/7/430261?pr

Lastly, I have gone on record, on numerous occasions, saying that I think Andy should remain mum with regard to her relationship with Prince. As I said, I think it will come out, I just don't think it should be from her or her family, IMHO. After all, Prince put his relationship with Andy on front street, in some ways like he had never done before, so he was obviously proud of their association.
rince OAN, before y'all accuse me of "hijacking" this thread, I did not bring AA into this conversation; however, I think this comment demanded a response. That is all.

Did Andy tell you the rings were from Prince ...or that they were his??????????

80tomato said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

In that case, if Prince wanted us to know that he was engaged to Sheila, he would have told us about that too. Moreover, she would have worn a ring. And I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just pointing out the differences in how Prince (and the two women) handled these two relationships.

Plus, the fact that Prince had his personal photographer, Justine Walpole, take the portrait in question--the one with AA wearing his diamond ring on her left ring finger--and that Andy Allo had the photo in her possession is an indication that he knew it existed...and that he would not mind it being released. Also, prior to his passing there were at least two photos of her wearing TWO different rings on her left finger during their time together. Not to mention, she wore them in the videos for "People Pleaser" and "Rocknroll Loveaffair." So, Prince didn't send out a press release about it, but he had Andy wearing his rings for the entire world to see. There's no denying that.

That said, I am not "trashing" anyone. In fact, I loved Maya's YouTube tribute to Prince. As I said earlier, I thought it was pitch-perfect. Her comments in GQ , however, are another story. Same thing with Kandace Springs. I thought her early reflections were cute, but as her story evolved, so did my reaction. Heck, I even started a thread about her a few months back. See for yourself.

One Tweet from Prince Cha...ED movies)

http://prince.org/msg/7/430261?pr

Lastly, I have gone on record, on numerous occasions, saying that I think Andy should remain mum with regard to her relationship with Prince. As I said, I think it will come out, I just don't think it should be from her or her family, IMHO. After all, Prince put his relationship with Andy on front street, in some ways like he had never done before, so he was obviously proud of their association.
rince OAN, before y'all accuse me of "hijacking" this thread, I did not bring AA into this conversation; however, I think this comment demanded a response. That is all.

Did Andy tell you the rings were given to her by Prince ...or indeed if they were even his rings originally....

[Edited 2/23/17 9:02am]

80tomato said:

80tomato said:

Did Andy tell you the rings were given to her by Prince ...or indeed if they were even his rings originally....

[Edited 2/23/17 9:02am]

I don't know Andy, so, no, she told me no such thing. It was established on the "Were Prince and Andy Allo Betrothed?" thread that she was wearing his diamond pinky ring on her left hand. Also, if you look on the "Photographic Record" thread that is presently active, you will see Andy wearing it in the "People Pleaser" and "RNRLA" video screenshots/photo shoots. Prince is seen wearing the ring in the gorgeous photos of the two of them exiting the service entrance of Claridge's of London to avoid the paparazzi. BTW, there is at least one photo of Prince and Andy at the Dakota with her wearing a diamond solitaire. I won't post those photos here, lest I am further accused of "hijacking" this thread.

FlyOnTheWall said:

80tomato said:

Did Andy tell you the rings were given to her by Prince ...or indeed if they were even his rings originally....

[Edited 2/23/17 9:02am]

I don't know Andy, so, no, she told me no such thing. It was established on the "Were Prince and Andy Allo Betrothed?" thread that she was wearing his diamond pinky ring on her left hand. Also, if you look on the "Photographic Record" thread that is presently active, you will see Andy wearing it in the "People Pleaser" and "RNRLA" video screenshots/photo shoots. Prince is seen wearing the ring in the gorgeous photos of the two of them exiting the service entrance of Claridge's of London to avoid the paparazzi. BTW, there is at least one photo of Prince and Andy at the Dakota with her wearing a diamond solitaire. I won't post those photos here, lest I am further accused of "hijacking" this thread.

who established it ...and is it fact ...and if it is fact , then your source please.