FlyOnTheWall said:

Don't hijack this damn thread.

paisleypearl said:

I've begun to notice that singing about unrequited love was a constant occurrence for Prince and that it's almost a "must", an expected, for many artists.

Thw writer must always see themselves as "the victim".

paisleypearl said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

They both ended up with broken hearts. Have you had a chance to listen to any of his Piano and a Microphone shows? If not, once you do, you'll know what I mean.

Don't hijack this damn thread.

Excuse me? I simply responded by pointing out an interesting comment and photograph on an older thread that someone else posted. Before that, I have been participating in this thread for TEN days, with no mention of the person who shall go unnamed here. Would you rather that I not have pointed out KCOOLMUZIQ's reply on that thread from 2014? Sheesh.

Going back to the OP, I live in Chanhassen. It is a safe city. It's a typical middle to upper middle class suburb. The residents of Chanhassen were proud to have Prince as a neighbor. We treated him with respect and respected his privacy. There's a reason he never left (other than a couple years he spent in California in the mid 2000s). There is no place Prince wanted to be more than Paisley Park. As Shelby J. said in a recent interview they could have been anywhere but Prince was home at PP. It was the place he loved the most. 💜

WeDaBest said:

I didn't know he did that, but it just helps to solidify my thoughts about the friendship they had. I've always wanted to comment on this topic of Tamron and Prince, and since you bought it up, I'd like to say, I personally think Prince was attracted to Tamron, and would have liked to pursue something more than a friendship with her, (And there is nothing wrong with a man of God pursuing a woman) but I think his reputation preceded him. She even said something in the way of, No one can date Prince, when asked if they were dating. It seemed she might have been afraid to go that route with him, but I suspect he wanted to. ( And there is nothing wrong with that) I know a man and a woman can be friends without a sexual relationship and I know Prince was only a mentor and friends to many of these women that came forth so far, but with the kind of intimate friendship Tamron expressed that they shared, things can get a little tricky with that kind of affection.. (been there, done that)

Since no one has yet to say it... Speaking on the phone at 3 AM for hours on end, sending pics of how she looked every morning before work, telling her how to do her hair and makeup and what to wear, putting her picture on a single called "If I Could Get Your Attention", are pretty darn intimate things to do with a woman that has a boyfriend, (if Laurence O'Donald was her boyfriend) and If I was a man and Tamron Hall was my girlfriend, I would certainly feel like they were crossing the line. Tamron Hall even said that when she last spoke to Prince, she told him, "I was just thinking about you, and he replied, "You Are thinking about me, because I was thinking about you." I don't know guys, but that's a pretty intimate response. The flirting never stopped. I'm not saying they were dating, but that friendship seemed loaded with a bit too much intimacy. Anyway, this is just my opinion. All in all, I'm just happy Prince didn't seem to be no where near the promiscuous man he used to be back in the day, but I'm also happy he was still living and feeling before he left us.
[Edited 2/22/17 6:43am]

rogifan said:

Going back to the OP, I live in Chanhassen. It is a safe city. It's a typical middle to upper middle class suburb. The residents of Chanhassen were proud to have Prince as a neighbor. We treated him with respect and respected his privacy. There's a reason he never left (other than a couple years he spent in California in the mid 2000s). There is no place Prince wanted to be more than Paisley Park. As Shelby J. said in a recent interview they could have been anywhere but Prince was home at PP. It was the place he loved the most. 💜

He loved ya'll back.

Guitarhero said:

Yes he did. Is there anyone he really hated? To me he seemed to be so much about love. 💜

Guitarhero said:

rogifan said:

Going back to the OP, I live in Chanhassen. It is a safe city. It's a typical middle to upper middle class suburb. The residents of Chanhassen were proud to have Prince as a neighbor. We treated him with respect and respected his privacy. There's a reason he never left (other than a couple years he spent in California in the mid 2000s). There is no place Prince wanted to be more than Paisley Park. As Shelby J. said in a recent interview they could have been anywhere but Prince was home at PP. It was the place he loved the most. 💜

He loved ya'll back.

I haven't cried about Prince for a long time, but this little exchange here is making me really emotional. Some days, it just hits you in the gut harder than others. Today must be one of those days.

FlyOnTheWall said:

There were a lot of different opinions on that thread.
KCOOLMUZIC is not Prince.

Bottom line: Prince did not have a relationship that worked for him in the longterm during his lifetime. That was not his fault - or that of the girls or women he was with.

He simply did not meet anyone like the woman I described on the first AA/Prince thread a description that got nice and deeply buried quick...a description which got some people so riled up...

The woman I described was so unique and so unlike anyone we had ever ever heard of (and I didn't even get into the half of it OR her physical beauty and sexiness)....God gave me the words to describe her heart, compassion and courage and I was able to so easily verbalize it...She sounded so perfect for Prince...that I guess it wasn't a popular idea to some over there.....

I also said that this woman I described could not make it to Prince in his lifetime, for reasons that are unknown (to everyone but her and him now).

He knew she existed too...and that is one of the reasons he was so sad and lost and frustrated in those last years....

That, and the way people treat each other.....

I admire him for STILL living his life.....

He loved the people around him, yes, and he still had desires and fun and he GAVE.....He gave til his body wore out.

But that woman I described is someone waaaaay different than all the others he had ever met...even he couldn't imagine her...he knew that...Prince loved being surprised.....

Ok. Then WHY couldn't she make it to him. Why couldn't God bring her to him?...

Because of The Army of Haters..... That's why.

But he is okay now...he knows that God always wins.
[Edited 2/22/17 8:36am]

MrNelson7 said:

rogifan said:

MrNelson7 said:

I haven't cried about Prince for a long time, but this little exchange here is making me really emotional. Some days, it just hits you in the gut harder than others. Today must be one of those days.

Thanks.

MrNelson7 said:

rogifan said:

MrNelson7 said:

Thanks.

Bless you both.

anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Excuse me? I simply responded by pointing out an interesting comment and photograph on an older thread that someone else posted. Before that, I have been participating in this thread for TEN days, with no mention of the person who shall go unnamed here. Would you rather that I not have pointed out KCOOLMUZIQ's reply on that thread from 2014? Sheesh.

There were a lot of different opinions on that thread. KCOOLMUZIC is not Prince. Bottom line: Prince did not have a relationship that worked for him in the longterm during his lifetime. That was not his fault - or that of the girls or women he was with. He simply did not meet anyone like the woman I described on the first AA/Prince thread that got nice and deeply buried quick...a description which got some people so riled up... The woman I described was so unique and so unlike anyone we had ever ever heard of (and I didn't even get into the half of it OR her physical beauty and sexiness)....God gave me those words which is why I was able to so easily verbalize it...She sounded so perfect for Prince...that I guess it wasn't a popular idea to some...... I also said that this woman I described could not make it to Prince in his lifetime, for reasons that are unknown (to everyone but her and him now). He knew she existed too...and that is one of the reasons he was so sad and lost and frustrated in those last years. That, and the way people treat each other..... I admire him for living his life STILL..... He loved the people around him, yes and he still had desires and feelings and fun and he GAVE.....He gave and lived til his body wore out. But that woman I described is someone waaaaay different than all the others he had ever met...even he couldn't possibly imagine her...he knew that...Prince loved being surprised..... Ok. Then WHY couldn't she make it to him. Why couldn't God bring her to him. Because of The Army of Haters...... That's why. But Prince is okay now...and he knows that God always wins. [Edited 2/22/17 7:31am]

I never claimed that KCOOL was Prince. What I said is that many on the org believe that person was Prince or his representative. I stand by that assertion.

SNIP - OF4S

laurarichardson said:

SayItsJustADream said:

An interesting older thread from July 2014, where Kandace's screenshots of her interaction with P were captured...scroll down to about reply #21, on the 1st page...

http://prince.org/msg/7/409319

You can't see P's responses, but you can read Kandace's...and it seems at the very least some sweet or flattering words were being said, if not plain flirting...but who knows...? She got an invite to Paisley to sing....

Seems like flirting same think with La La. He was trying to get his foot in the door but maybe not being successful.

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She's doing some heavy flirting TO him...but in the GQ article, she talks about him differently.

"Springs: He was actually very respectful. I mean, I never got with him like that. If I did, I would tell everybody! He definitely did try, I'm not gonna lie. [laughs] He tried to hold my hand in the movie theater. And he would send the most flirty e-mails—he would make it very clear."

http://www.gq.com/story/prince-stories

She wouldn't even hold his hand? WTH? After all that two-way online flirting?

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FlyOnTheWall said:

paisleypearl said:

FlyOnTheWall said: Don't hijack this damn thread.

Excuse me? I simply responded by pointing out an interesting comment and photograph on an older thread that someone else posted. Before that, I have been participating in this thread for TEN days, with no mention of the person who shall go unnamed here. Would you rather that I not have pointed out KCOOLMUZIQ's reply on that thread from 2014? Sheesh.

What is it with you? What MORE do you want? I am agreeing with you that Prince and Andy were in a relationship and in love...but it's not enough..It's NEVER enough! I'm on a whole different thread, talking about someone else, leaving you and your Andy thread alone...which you stated that those of us who are sick of the constant drumbeating should do....once again, I have nothing against Andy, I actually liked her alot before you started down this Andy stanning path...since what, November? we're going on the 4th month now...? On what number# thread now? It's not Andy and Prince we're hating on, we thought she was good for him and he indeed was happy around her...but if we disagree with you, or agree (in my case I agree)that yes, they were in love, engaged, happy for a time, made great music together, all of that...but it's NEVER EVER enough for you, even aligning with your beliefs...I mean Goddamn!

SayItsJustADream said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Excuse me? I simply responded by pointing out an interesting comment and photograph on an older thread that someone else posted. Before that, I have been participating in this thread for TEN days, with no mention of the person who shall go unnamed here. Would you rather that I not have pointed out KCOOLMUZIQ's reply on that thread from 2014? Sheesh.

What is it with you? What MORE do you want? I am agreeing with you that Prince and Andy were in a relationship and in love...but it's not enough..It's NEVER enough! I'm on a whole different thread, talking about someone else, leaving you and your Andy thread alone...which you stated that those of us who are sick of the constant drumbeating should do....once again, I have nothing against Andy, I actually liked her alot before you started down this Andy stanning path...since what, November? we're going on the 4th month now...? On what number# thread now? It's not Andy and Prince we're hating on, we thought she was good for him and he indeed was happy around her...but if we disagree with you, or agree (in my case I agree)that yes, they were in love, engaged, happy for a time, made great music together, all of that...but it's NEVER EVER enough for you, even aligning with your beliefs...I mean Goddamn!

I simply responded to an older thread for which you posted the link. I just happened to read the entire thread and not just the tweets. After which, I thought others might be interested in KCOOL's reply since he has almost legendary status on the org. I'm sorry if that offends you. As I said, this is now the 10th day that I've been engaged with this thread, with no mention of that name that set off this line of discussion. If no one had commented on it, that would have been the end of it. Peace.

laytonian said:

--She was messing with his head she said he made his intentions clear. This was all in January of last year once again dubunking this his was strung out and depressed nonsense.

laurarichardson said:

laytonian said:

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She's doing some heavy flirting TO him...but in the GQ article, she talks about him differently.

"Springs: He was actually very respectful. I mean, I never got with him like that. If I did, I would tell everybody! He definitely did try, I'm not gonna lie. [laughs] He tried to hold my hand in the movie theater. And he would send the most flirty e-mails—he would make it very clear."

http://www.gq.com/story/prince-stories

She wouldn't even hold his hand? WTH? After all that two-way online flirting?

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--She was messing with his head she said he made his intentions clear. This was all in January of last year once again dubunking this his was strung out and depressed nonsense.

After witnessing the evolution of her story, I'm taking Ms. Springs' multiple accounts with a grain of salt. At first, I was really liking her vibe. I even ordered her CD a few months ago. Now? Not so much. I mean, if you're claiming to be a friend to someone, certainly a global icon who welcomed you into his VERY tight circle, how can you now share such alleged details? What happened to decorum? I wonder if GQ paid her for her expanded story?

luvgirl said:

WeDaBest said:

At the Oakland concert on March 4, 2016, when singing "Nothing Compares To You", Prince sings..."tell me Tam'ron where did Prince go wrong". Has anyone else heard this? I definitely think there was more to that relationship than we know.

I didn't know he did that, but it just helps to solidify my thoughts about the friendship they had. I've always wanted to comment on this topic of Tamron and Prince, and since you bought it up, I'd like to say, I personally think Prince was attracted to Tamron, and would have liked to pursue something more than a friendship with her, (And there is nothing wrong with a man of God pursuing a woman) but I think his reputation preceded him. She even said something in the way of, No one can date Prince, when asked if they were dating. It seemed she might have been afraid to go that route with him, but I suspect he wanted to. ( And there is nothing wrong with that) I know a man and a woman can be friends without a sexual relationship and I know Prince was only a mentor and friends to many of these women that came forth so far, but with the kind of intimate friendship Tamron expressed that they shared, things can get a little tricky with that kind of affection.. (been there, done that) Since no one has yet to say it... Speaking on the phone at 3 AM for hours on end, sending pics of how she looked every morning before work, telling her how to do her hair and makeup and what to wear, putting her picture on a single called "If I Could Get Your Attention", are pretty darn intimate things to do with a woman that has a boyfriend, (if Laurence O'Donald was her boyfriend) and If I was a man and Tamron Hall was my girlfriend, I would certainly feel like they were crossing the line. Tamron Hall even said that when she last spoke to Prince, she told him, "I was just thinking about you, and he replied, "You Are thinking about me, because I was thinking about you." I don't know guys, but that's a pretty intimate response. The flirting never stopped. I'm not saying they were dating, but that friendship seemed loaded with a bit too much intimacy. Anyway, this is just my opinion. All in all, I'm just happy Prince didn't seem to be no where near the promiscuous man he used to be back in the day, but I'm also happy he was still living and feeling before he left us. [Edited 2/22/17 6:43am]

Yes, I agree 100%

FlyOnTheWall said:

--I believe she mentioned their date before the GQ article and I don't think she is saying anything bad. I am glad to know he was flirty and going out on dates.

laurarichardson said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

After witnessing the evolution of her story, I'm taking Ms. Springs' multiple accounts with a grain of salt. At first, I was really liking her vibe. I even ordered her CD a few months ago. Now? Not so much. I mean, if you're claiming to be a friend to someone, certainly a global icon who welcomed you into his VERY tight circle, how can you now share such alleged details? What happened to decorum? I wonder if GQ paid her for her expanded story?

--I believe she mentioned their date before the GQ article and I don't think she is saying anything bad. I am glad to know he was flirty and going out on dates.

I believe she had previously mentioned going to the movies with Prince and him picking her up at the airport on her birthday. She added that she played her, then, unreleased CD for him and he told her, "You did it!" Did she ever actually use the word "date," though?

Plus, details like "he tried to hold my hand," as opposed to saying that they actually held hands, allows her to have the best of both worlds. She can say, on the one hand, that Prince wanted her, but, on the other, I rejected him (which is a likely story if she has a boyfriend). And after reading that one-sided Twitter conversation and seeing her profile shot, not to mention watching that video of her drawing P's portrait while singing "The Beautiful Ones," I'm having trouble believing that she would rebuff P. Like they say, I was born at night, just not last night.

Same thing with her describing P's bedroom: She says that she was only there to use his blowdryer because she had to wash her hair. I forget what she said was in her hair, but you get my drift. This account allows her to assert that she was in his bedroom, without admitting that he bedded her. Okay, Kandace...

[Edited 2/22/17 16:05pm]

FlyOnTheWall said:

'Tis you has made a correlation between me being a "zen goddess" or that woman I described, I never said that.
It is a compliment that you would even think of me in that light, and I thank you very much for it.

anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I never claimed that KCOOL was Prince. What I said is that many on the org believe that person was Prince or his representative. I stand by that assertion.

As for all the rest, it's hard to believe that the zen goddess persona on display in this post and the diabolical person who "joked" about my assassination and someone having a stroke and being left wheelchair-bound reside in the same being. Talk about polar opposites.

'Tis you has made a correlation between me being a "zen goddess" or that woman I described, I never said that. It is a compliment that you would even think of me in that light, and I thank you very much for it.

FlyOnTheWall said:

.
No.
She said he let her borrow his hairdryer because she forgot hers.

She didn't talk about washing her hair in his bathroom.
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FlyOnTheWall said:

Apparently some people are just fine with women sharing intimate details. I think it's disrespectful and unclassy. They wouldn't be sharing these details if he was alive.

laytonian said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I believe she had previously mentioned going to the movies with Prince and him picking her up at the airport on her birthday. She added that she played her, then, unreleased CD for him and he told her, "You did it!" Did she ever actually use the word "date," though?

Plus, details like "he tried to hold my hand," as opposed to saying that they actually held hands, allows her to have the best of both worlds. She can say, on the one hand, that Prince wanted her, but, on the other, I rejected him (which is a likely story if she has a boyfriend). And after reading that one-sided Twitter conversation and seeing her profile shot, not to mention watching that video of her drawing P's portrait while singing "The Beautiful Ones," I'm having trouble believing that she would rebuff P. Like they say, I was born at night, just not last night.

Same thing with her describing P's bedroom: She says that she was only there to use his blowdryer because she had to wash her hair. I forget what she said was in her hair, but you get my drift. This account allows her to assert that she was in his bedroom, without admitting that he bedded her. Okay, Kandace...

[Edited 2/22/17 16:05pm]

. No. She said he let her borrow his hairdryer because she forgot hers. She didn't talk about washing her hair in his bathroom. .

Ok. I just checked and you're right. I stand corrected, but once you get in your mind the image of her in Prince's room, with the "little queen-size bed" and "little private bathroom," with his blow dryer, the train has left the station. I mean, all kinds of thoughts come to mind, and I'm sure that Miss Springs knows that. Whatever the case, I still think it's more information than Prince would have wanted a supposed (relatively new) "friend" to share after his passing.

rogifan said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

After witnessing the evolution of her story, I'm taking Ms. Springs' multiple accounts with a grain of salt. At first, I was really liking her vibe. I even ordered her CD a few months ago. Now? Not so much. I mean, if you're claiming to be a friend to someone, certainly a global icon who welcomed you into his VERY tight circle, how can you now share such alleged details? What happened to decorum? I wonder if GQ paid her for her expanded story?

Apparently some people are just fine with women sharing intimate details. I think it's disrespectful and unclassy. They wouldn't be sharing these details if he was alive.

BTW, I was also surprised at some of the quotes attributed to Shameless Maya (Washington) in the GQ piece. I mean, he pulled her from relative obscurity and made her the art director and photographer for Art Official Age, arguably his last masterpiece. Thus, her photos of him have become iconic. He even allowed her to exclusively photograph his last Essence Fest performance, which all but guaranteed her a spread in Essence magazine. Moreover, shortly after his passing, she said that when he paid her for the first time, without her even invoicing him, she fell to her knees because she had never seen that kind of money.

And, after all that, she opted to go on record saying that he "might have been fishing" when he first contacted her about her photography. Even more shocking was this comment: "He has his routine with all these young girls who come in: movies, bike ride, possibly a jam session. That sounds about right." If she had to go there, and she didn't have to go there, why "young girls" instead of "young ladies"? What ever happened to discretion?

[Edited 2/22/17 20:24pm]

FlyOnTheWall said:

The original poster asked a simple question and I seemed to be the one who have stayed on topic. Y'all turned this tread into a whole different topic. If he had THAT many that loved him like that, why WAS he by himself with no security?

This is so depressing, Prince picked the worst kind of woman, the absolute worst. What oh what our dear Prince were you thinking when you picked such awful women to be attracted to? And do tell, please, is there a limit to italics on this site? I'm having to fan myself and stop for a cold beverage . How could women be so open about such remarkable events in one's past? What would Miss Manners say? Heavens!, *sniff sniff*

Good Gawd. I used to like you all now I have to duck and run when the hijacker shows up.