benni said:

paisleypearl said:

benni said:

That isn't proof. I can say I slept with Prince and have friends back me up, but it doesn't make it true and it doesn't offer proof.

I think he was a grown up doing grown up things, why do you think he was celibate?

Because he said he was. Because he took his religion seriously. Because there is no proof that he was in a relationship towards the end, just as there is no proof that he wasn't. It's all only speculation that people keep trying to pass off as truth. When you make a definitive statement, such as, "He had a sexual relationship with Judith Hill, not all the drama you imagine," then you need to be able to back that statement up with proof. Otherwise, you need to add a disclaimer that you "believe", or you "think", and not state it like it is fact, when it is only your conjecture. Just like you said in this post, "I think he was a grown up doing grown up things..."

One of the big problems on the internet today is that everyone has an opinion about everything and they confuse their opinion with fact, and try to convince others that opinion is fact. And if your opinion differs from their opinion, they act like you've committed some huge crime or sin. It's a sad statement of where our society is today.

Sorry, just a little soapbox of mine...every one stating opinion as fact and not able to back that opinion up but will fight tooth and nail to convince you of the truth of their opinion and if you disagree with the opinion then they, and their minions, attack. (Not directing that at you, just stating that in general across the internet.)

benni said:

paisleypearl said:

benni said: I think he was a grown up doing grown up things, why do you think he was celibate?

Because he said he was. Because he took his religion seriously. Because there is no proof that he was in a relationship towards the end, just as there is no proof that he wasn't. It's all only speculation that people keep trying to pass off as truth. When you make a definitive statement, such as, "He had a sexual relationship with Judith Hill, not all the drama you imagine," then you need to be able to back that statement up with proof. Otherwise, you need to add a disclaimer that you "believe", or you "think", and not state it like it is fact, when it is only your conjecture. Just like you said in this post, "I think he was a grown up doing grown up things..."

One of the big problems on the internet today is that everyone has an opinion about everything and they confuse their opinion with fact, and try to convince others that opinion is fact. And if your opinion differs from their opinion, they act like you've committed some huge crime or sin. It's a sad statement of where our society is today.

Sorry, just a little soapbox of mine...every one stating opinion as fact and not able to back that opinion up but will fight tooth and nail to convince you of the truth of their opinion and if you disagree with the opinion then they, and their minions, attack. (Not directing that at you, just stating that in general across the internet.)

Well said Benni.

benni said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

It's not the first time I read this kind of statement.

They make Prince sound like a sort of assisted retard and I find it offensive.

For one thing Prince's health condition wasn't life thyreatening. He was in pain but the pain didn't or couldn't kill him. ODing on meds did. P was a very proud man, so obviously he wasn't gonna tell his staff or friends "I'm afraid I'm gonna OD again after the plane incident, stay with me and babysit me".

Besides that...

How can anyone leave me alone at my crib most of the time, regardless of what my health condition could be?

Simple answer: I live alone. So did Prince.

Not all of us like or wish being surrounded by other people all the time. Being on your own is a privilege for some people, it certainly is for me.

And I sure hope people will leave me the hell alone when I'm sick and dying, of all times.

All true, but I would also say, P may have been suffering from metallosis without realising it, and that this could have had as much an impact on his mental state as any opiate problem. He did have a partial hip replacement ~2010, allegedly.

[/quote can you get metallosis with a partial hip replacement? I thought you could only get it from a full hip replacement when the ball and the socket are both replaced with metal parts. In a partial hip replacement only the ball is replaced.

I'm not sure even hip resurfacing alone wouldn't carry its own risks. Metals are metals. If someone ingests iron oxide - a common food/medication additive - in sufficient quantities that too will cause toxicity issues. See below

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Hip-replacement/Pages/Introduction.aspx

Alternative surgery

There is an alternative type of surgery to hip replacement, known as hip resurfacing. This involves removing the damaged surfaces of the bones inside the hip joint and replacing them with a metal surface.

An advantage to this approach is that it removes less bone. However, it may not be suitable for:

• adults over the age of 65 years – bones tend to weaken as a person becomes older
• women who have gone through the menopause – one of the side effects of the menopause is that the bones can become weakened and brittle (osteoporosis)

Resurfacing is much less popular now due to concerns about the metal surface causing damage to soft tissues around the hip.

Metal-on-metal implants

There have been cases of some metal-on-metal (MoM) hip replacements wearing sooner than would be expected, causing deterioration in the bone and tissue around the hip. There are also concerns that they could leak traces of metal into the bloodstream.

The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) has issued new guidelines that certain types of MoM devices should be checked every year while the implant is in place. This is so any potential complications can be picked up early.

http://www.fda.gov/Medical...241604.htm

Concerns about Metal-on-Metal Hip Implants

All artificial hip implants carry risks including wear of the component material. Metal-on-metal (MoM) hip implants have unique risks in addition to the general risks of all hip implants.

In MoM hip implants, the metal ball and the metal cup slide against each other during walking or running. Metal can also be released from other parts of the implant where two implant components connect. Metal release will cause some tiny metal particles to wear off of the device into the space around the implant. Wear and corrosion at the connection between the metal ball and taper of the stem may also occur. Some of the metal ions (e.g. cobalt and chromium) from the metal implant or from the metal particles will enter the bloodstream.

I'm not sure even hip resurfacing alone would not carry its own risks. Metals are metals. If someone ingests iron oxide - a common food/medication additive - in sufficient quantities that too would cause toxicity issues.

benni said:

paisleypearl said:

benni said:

rogifan said:

RJOrion said:

RJOrion said:

kepurplehunter said:

IamBryan said:

For some reason, I just can't get my head around the fact that Prince lived at PP all alone? I ask this because it was a buliding surrounded by a chain link fence, which doesn't seem that hard to get through.

On 4/21/16, he dies alone at PP, you mean to tell me, that there was NO security on site, even if he didn't die, I find that very strange...I might be reaching, but given what we know about his medical state how the hell did anyone leave him alone there?!?!

Just breaks my heart

His Studiosssss are there who in the hell got time to leave the house and go back n forth to recorded n edit n engineering songs so Why Not !!!!!!

And its well documented that he Loved the late night, working sometimes all night, kinda of spooky, like a Late Night creature, lol

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

Any woman that writes a tell all book now that he's gone is just pathetic. And like you say it's not proof. I don't doubt too that there are some women who want people to think they were his love interest. I have little time or respect for those women. I'll take classy women like Damaris, Shelby, Liv, Andy, Tamar, etc. anyway.

--Devin Has alredy written a book and she said they did the do. Once again most fans knew about her already from her being around years ago. I simply don not understand what would make you all of these women are lying as I think they would only get media attention if they said something bad and as of yet none have said anything bad at all. Next you will telling me that the women lived with ate making things up as well.

Whose is Devin?

Astasheiks said:

Astasheiks said:

laurarichardson said:

paisleypearl said:

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P claimed to be "celibate" for five years in that "lost 2014 Rolling Stone" interview...but his definition may have actually been "serially monogamous".

Remember Karen Olivos in 2009? She won a Tony and he chased her down immediately at a New York party, making her feel like she was "a pork chop". Didn't even bother finding out that she was married. Where did he start from? Did he just happen to be in NYC that night? Who knows?

http://www.broadway.com/b...pork-chop/

Then there's Kandace Springs, who said (in the GQ article) that he was very blatant about his desires. She was a photog, not a singer.

The rumors about the Twinz, one of whom was photographing him in the last year or two.

Judith Hill, Andy Allo. One after another.

I don't think our little leopard had ever much changed his spots.

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laytonian said:

rogifan said:

laytonian said:

anangellooksdown said:

rogifan said:

rogifan said:

mnfriend said:

laytonian said:

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P claimed to be "celibate" for five years in that "lost 2014 Rolling Stone" interview...but his definition may have actually been "serially monogamous".

Remember Karen Olivos in 2009? She won a Tony and he chased her down immediately at a New York party, making her feel like she was "a pork chop". Didn't even bother finding out that she was married. Where did he start from? Did he just happen to be in NYC that night? Who knows?

http://www.broadway.com/b...pork-chop/

Then there's Kandace Springs, who said (in the GQ article) that he was very blatant about his desires. She was a photog, not a singer.

The rumors about the Twinz, one of whom was photographing him in the last year or two.

Judith Hill, Andy Allo. One after another.

I don't think our little leopard had ever much changed his spots.

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Hilarious . She was blushing re-telling.

laurarichardson said:

mnfriend said:

Hilarious . She was blushing re-telling.

--I mentioned these incidents before along with that honey collective business. Why would a celibate man be looking at women like s pork chop? I think after his divorce he said he was celibate to make the JWs happy and maybe trying but he was a man. I also suspect that he was not abusing these meds for long because one of the side effects is importance.
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laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

KaresB said:

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"He told me he wanted to take up all of my time" is definitely not something Prince would've said to woman if he had romantic intentions. And Judith wouldn't have 'outed' their romantic relationship like that if they had one. To me that line sounds exactly like a professional compliment to another artist, nothing more.

Stop fantasising. Prince didn't sleep with all his associates.

Unfortunately there are people who believe that to be the case and think anyone who doesn't is just being naïve. Actually I find the notion that Prince couldn't have a relationship with a women without it being sexual in nature deeply insulting to both Prince and his female bandmates/associates.

Indeed....

Actually if people would just Calm down a little bit and STOP all their projections, its quite easy to discern that the MAN Prince of the Last 3 or 4 years was vastly different that the young boy Prince who started out..

His style of dress alone should tell you that he was no longer going after the "Sexy"His clothing was almost Monastic...it was fuss free, without so much embellishment , "bells and WHistles"

I imagine it took him a whole lot less time to get ready in the Mornings, his mind was on other things.

THe young women he had around him, his relationship with a lot of them would have been very Paternal, or brotherly...In the last few years we started hearing a lot more of the "Uncle P" bit..

He probably still did romance one or two here and there...(big grin for FLY ) but not every one of them ...

His reverence for women took on another dimension, it became more about the MIND not so much the Body....