FlyOnTheWall said:

"We never played this before, but for you..."

This is how Prince introduced his jazzy 1985 sleeper, "Girl." After a few bars, he says, "Now watch. This is what happens in rehearsal." He then proceeds to walk the NPG ("Cassie," "Morris," etc.) through a brief practice session for a couple minutes.

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Fly, your obsession with Andy is unhealthy.

MrNelson7 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

"We never played this before, but for you..."

This is how Prince introduced his jazzy 1985 sleeper, "Girl." After a few bars, he says, "Now watch. This is what happens in rehearsal." He then proceeds to walk the NPG ("Cassie," "Morris," etc.) through a brief practice session for a couple minutes.

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Fly, your obsession with Andy is unhealthy.

Would you say that if I were posting about the Revolution, MrNelson7? BTW: I'll bet Mr. Prince Rogers Nelson would LOVE the focus on him and Andy.

rogifan said:

ACharmed1 said:

Yaaas! On both acounts. Love them both but, Rhonda doesn't get enuff love IMO.

Andy on the other hand is getting way 2 much credit. I was under the impression this was a PRINCE site. Happy trails 2 all on this thread but I'm out. I can't take anymore threads dedicted 2 Andy under the guise of P. My boycot starts now.

How about a thread in the associated artists forum (heck it can even be a sticky) for Andy Allo where anything and everything can be posted about her? Just a thought.

So, let me get this straight. Now, Prince needs to go in the Associated Artists forum on prince.org? Seriously? I tell you, y'all are like a bunch of jealous grade schoolers when it comes to Prince and Andy. The fact is that Andy and Prince were quite a prolific pair during his final years. Should we ignore his last productive years, during which Andy Allo was a fixture? I think not.

I have to be honest with you: I find the obsession with this relationship unsettling because it did not stop what ultimately happened to him. Was she around when he had physical pain that caused him to use painkillers? What was her effect on him in that regard, if she witnessed the pill use? He may have been in love with her still, but it wasn't enough to save him from going to the end of the path he took. And, frankly, did she not witness the deterioration in his physical appearance from 2014-2016? Surely she saw him occasionally in person and could easily have looked him up on the internet. If she did notice the change, why didn't she get on a plane to PP to be with/help him, or was he wrapped up in Judith Hill exclusively? Perhaps, as another poster said on the old thread, he needed a more experienced woman (read: older) in his life to pull him out of the abyss. JMO

rogifan said:

ACharmed1 said:

Yaaas! On both acounts. Love them both but, Rhonda doesn't get enuff love IMO.

Andy on the other hand is getting way 2 much credit. I was under the impression this was a PRINCE site. Happy trails 2 all on this thread but I'm out. I can't take anymore threads dedicted 2 Andy under the guise of P. My boycot starts now.

How about a thread in the associated artists forum (heck it can even be a sticky) for Andy Allo where anything and everything can be posted about her? Just a thought.

BTW: rogifan, have I ever come onto one of your threads trying to tell you what (or where) to post? Of course not. That's why I'm trying to figure out why you seem to live on my threads complaining about my postings, which by the way, reflect my interests. What's up with that?

1Sasha said:

I have to be honest with you: I find the obsession with this relationship unsettling because it did not stop what ultimately happened to him. Was she around when he had physical pain that caused him to use painkillers? What was her effect on him in that regard, if she witnessed the pill use? He may have been in love with her still, but it wasn't enough to save him from going to the end of the path he took. And, frankly, did she not witness the deterioration in his physical appearance from 2014-2016? Surely she saw him occasionally in person and could easily have looked him up on the internet. If she did notice the change, why didn't she get on a plane to PP to be with/help him, or was he wrapped up in Judith Hill exclusively? Perhaps, as another poster said on the old thread, he needed a more experienced woman (read: older) in his life to pull him out of the abyss. JMO

See, even when I try to focus on the music, y'all try to take me down the relationship path. I'm not biting, 1Sasha. What did you think of "Girl"? Have you been fortunate enough to view some of the North Sea footage?

FlyOnTheWall said:

rogifan said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

BTW: rogifan, have I ever come onto one of your threads trying to tell you what (or where) to post? Of course not. That's why I'm trying to figure out why you seem to live on my threads complaining about my postings, which by the way, reflect my interests. What's up with that?

Hey I just think you'd have more success with a dedicated thread in the associated artists forum. That's what Andy Allo is.

I agree that her solo projects belong in Associated Artists; however, her many collaborations with Prince belong in the Prince forum. The same is true for any other artist who had duets with Prince. What rational person could argue that Prince duets should not be in the Prince: Music and More forum? See, the thing is, such duets are rare, which is what sets Miss Andy apart from most of Prince's associates, other than Sheila E (back in the day), Rosie Gaines, (and perhaps one or two others).

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rogifan said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

BTW: rogifan, have I ever come onto one of your threads trying to tell you what (or where) to post? Of course not. That's why I'm trying to figure out why you seem to live on my threads complaining about my postings, which by the way, reflect my interests. What's up with that?

Hey I just think you'd have more success with a dedicated thread in the associated artists forum. That's what Andy Allo is. If you want to turn this into a general discussion about these North See Jazz shows I think that would be great as they're amazing shows. [Edited 2/6/17 6:54am]

Here's a thought: Why don't you start a general discussion thread about the North Sea Jazz shows? I'll chime in...and I promise not to second guess your artistic tastes.

Prince was having a hard time keeping a straight face.

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FlyOnTheWall said:

1Sasha said:

I have to be honest with you: I find the obsession with this relationship unsettling because it did not stop what ultimately happened to him. Was she around when he had physical pain that caused him to use painkillers? What was her effect on him in that regard, if she witnessed the pill use? He may have been in love with her still, but it wasn't enough to save him from going to the end of the path he took. And, frankly, did she not witness the deterioration in his physical appearance from 2014-2016? Surely she saw him occasionally in person and could easily have looked him up on the internet. If she did notice the change, why didn't she get on a plane to PP to be with/help him, or was he wrapped up in Judith Hill exclusively? Perhaps, as another poster said on the old thread, he needed a more experienced woman (read: older) in his life to pull him out of the abyss. JMO

See, even when I try to focus on the music, y'all try to take me down the relationship path. I'm not biting, 1Sasha. What did you think of "Girl"? Have you been fortunate enough to view some of the North Sea footage?

I have. And I told you earlier that I bought "Superconductor" and it is the #1 CD I play in the car every day. I really, really like it. Sorry to pull the thread in the wrong way, but for me the two issues are intertwined. P.S. I did watch the performances. They remind me of Paul McCartney bringing Linda into Wings, although Andy could sing and play an instrument.

1Sasha said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

See, even when I try to focus on the music, y'all try to take me down the relationship path. I'm not biting, 1Sasha. What did you think of "Girl"? Have you been fortunate enough to view some of the North Sea footage?

I have. And I told you earlier that I bought "Superconductor" and it is the #1 CD I play in the car every day. I really, really like it. Sorry to pull the thread in the wrong way, but for me the two issues are intertwined. P.S. I did watch the performances. They remind me of Paul McCartney bringing Linda into Wings, although Andy could sing and play an instrument.

I understand. I also think their music and relationship are intertwined, but we seem to be in the minority on the org. And, to answer your initial question, I'm sure that everyone in P's inner circle will be forever wishing they had done more to save him. The thing is, probably none of them ever considered the possibility that he would ever not be here. And, only those on the plane knew the gravity of his situation. P was telling everyone else that he was fine and the media was reporting that he had the flu. In any case, I just think finger pointing is, well, pointless. It won't bring him back.

FlyOnTheWall said:

MrNelson7 said:

Fly, your obsession with Andy is unhealthy.

Would you say that if I were posting about the Revolution, MrNelson7? BTW: I'll bet Mr. Prince Rogers Nelson would LOVE the focus on him and Andy.

Multiple threads that are repetative in content, obsessive in nature, and where the OP becomes histrionic when contradicted? Yes, I would. Especially if the threads are repeatedly pulled, but the OP just won't quit. Again, unhealthy.

I agree with Rogifan. A dedicated thread to Andy in the AA forum would be far more appropriate. There's one for Shelby, and most of that thread deals with her collaborations with Prince, NOT as a solo act.

MrNelson7 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Would you say that if I were posting about the Revolution, MrNelson7? BTW: I'll bet Mr. Prince Rogers Nelson would LOVE the focus on him and Andy.

Multiple threads that are repetative in content, obsessive in nature, and where the OP becomes histrionic when contradicted? Yes, I would. Especially if the threads are repeatedly pulled, but the OP just won't quit. Again, unhealthy.

I agree with Rogifan. A dedicated thread to Andy in the AA forum would be far more appropriate. There's one for Shelby, and most of that thread deals with her collaborations with Prince, NOT as a solo act.

Histrionic? Seriously? Repetitive? Please point out another thread of mine about "Girl." I'll wait.
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With regard to Shelby and her collaborations with Prince, perhaps those threads should be bumped up to the PM&M forum. I don't have a problem with that. Do you?

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Still, I must say, it is the most bizarre thing that so many of you seem personally offended that Prince and Andy Allo had such a close and fruitful collaboration in his final years...and, for whatever reason, you seem so intent on trying to minimize (and marginalize) it. Truth be told, that is a large part of what feeds my desire to explore further their historic, prolific relationship.

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sharpieheartz said:

I have all three NSJ performances on a mega.nz account, and I must say he paid Andy quite a lot of attention on stage in those performances and others. I swear whenever she'd come onstage, he'd get more loose and a bit flirtatious I swore I could see Andy brush her hand against his arm when it came down to the "ooh, wee baby, I think you desire me" part in the 'Girl' performance. [Edited 2/6/17 9:52am]

They seemed to be having quite the time. Very cute!!!

FlyOnTheWall said:

eightiesbrat said:

Wish I could see this! Girl is one of my favorires

It's out there, eightiesbrat. Try social media.

FlyOnTheWall said:

BillieBalloon said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Prince was having a hard time keeping a straight face.

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After seeing all these Andy threads who can blame him.

Ha! Good one, Billie!! You had to see the whole clip to appreciate my point. They were having so much fun playing with each other that Prince was doing his best to keep his cool. They are doing what almost looks like a mating dance around each other while the other was doing their verse. It is priceless. It truly brings me great joy to see them so happy and lighthearted. For some reason, however, it seems to have the opposite effect on some here on the org. Go figure.

eightiesbrat said:

sharpieheartz said:

eightiesbrat said:

Wish I could see this! Girl is one of my favorires

I have a link 4 U, eightiesbrat! It's on Facebook:

Prince was getting his scat on, too!!! I was deliberately trying not to post the link. It will get pulled down. I've already seen it coming down on some other sites on Facebook today.

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FlyOnTheWall said:

Kara said:

dm3857 said:

He did Girl at the final Atlanta show too, I about lost my mind when he went into it.

There's a performance of "Girl" from Paris in 2009 that I like, too.

+1 on the 2009 Paris (acoustic) version.

Quite hilarious when Prince tries to get the men/women sing/shout "Girl!"/"Boy!" and when some men also sings "Boy!" he comments "just the girls sings that..."

sharpieheartz said:

eightiesbrat said:

Wish I could see this! Girl is one of my favorires

I have a link 4 U, eightiesbrat! It's on Facebook: Just search Girl - Andy Allo in the bar on mobile. [Edited 2/6/17 14:29pm]

Thank you so much for that, I really appreciate it! I was actually able to see it before you took down the link. I'm not on Facebook so that was lucky for me Loved Andy in this clip. I try and keep an eye out for things on YouTube, that's pretty much my sole source but I never did see this one. Thanks again!

sharpieheartz said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Prince was getting his scat on, too!!! I was deliberately trying not to post the link. It will get pulled down. I've already seen it coming down on some other sites on Facebook today.

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Oops, I better take it down! But that scatting though!

for the scattin'!!!

Not weighing in on the Andy Allo stuff but thanks for pointing me in the direction to see this. I love 'Girl' and I've never seen it live before. Plus I loved all the "rehearsal" stuff and how much fun he seemed to be having.

redaddict said:

Not weighing in on the Andy Allo stuff but thanks for pointing me in the direction to see this. I love 'Girl' and I've never seen it live before. Plus I loved all the "rehearsal" stuff and how much fun he seemed to be having.

P was having a blast!! I recently saw some footage of "When I Lay My Hands on You," from that same show, and Prince was in the rarest of forms. I mean, it was like his flesh was literally on fire, like he sang about in "Girl." Whew. I was screaming.

Joy...

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