In my opinion Prince was Religious and Political. Religoins are intensely political. Politics is not a dirty word. Clunky as it is, it's the way people decide how to proceed as a group.

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I love the song Baltimore and feel it is a shining example of his response to community and his legacy to us.

purplepoppy said:

In my opinion Prince was Religious and Political. Religoins are intensely political. Politics is not a dirty word. Clunky as it is, it's the way people decide how to proceed as a group.

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I love the song Baltimore and feel it is a shining example of his response to community and his legacy to us.

The Jehovah's Witnesses are not. Which is why most nations they were a part of persecuted them.

One side of my family came to the US because the Pope was killing them all. They were Mennonite Amish, there are none left in Europe. They do not believe in bearing arms. That is a very political stance.

purplepoppy said:

purplepoppy said:

One side of my family came to the US because the Pope was killing them all. They were Mennonite Amish, there are none left in Europe. They do not believe in bearing arms. That is a very political stance.

the whole persecuation of the Mennonites / Amish was one of 'religious' denominational doctrine. They were extremely big on seperation from the State.

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The stance can only be defined from the standpoint of the person making the stance is coming from.

That would be their hearts intentions. Some people 'do not believe in bearing arms' based directly on political reasons. Others from religioius/spiritual. And of course we all live in a world where politics is all around us. But that doesn't mean a person lives a political life, or politically charged life.
There are people who are not religious, but who are very political in their lifestyle and beliefs that it almost resembles a very overzealous religious person.

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Not bearing arms for many also is about fear, internal issues of violence etc

The Mennonite Amish belief in not bearing arms is hardly political. Because regular people do not have to bear arms. Their belief in not bearing arms existed whether or not the state expected anyone to bear arms ie military.

Are the Amish political in that they do not want to use electricity...

The stance can only be defined from the standpoint of the person making the stance, is coming from.

purplepoppy said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

a HuffPost by someone who clearly doesn't understand the man Prince and his career as an artist. Digging a little beyond the surface of Prince tells us how entwined and defined he was by his belief.

post #26 But being altruistic and political are two very different things. That is why he was careful to remain anonymous - even in his altruism.

So is this thread a dictatorship? No dissenting opinions will be tolerated?

That does seem to be the way of the org...and not just on this thread.

purplepoppy said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

How does it feel to be the judge and jury? Not very good from the vibes I'm getting. All these pesky posts.

Right?! It's really getting out of hand.

FlyOnTheWall said:

purplepoppy said:

How does it feel to be the judge and jury? Not very good from the vibes I'm getting. All these pesky posts.

Right?! It's really getting out of hand.

uh, my gifs are responding to:Politics does not divide people anymore than celebrating life does

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that's why purplepoppy got the face, POLITICS DOES NOT DIVIDE PEOPLE? Seriously?? Look at what is happening right now in the country:USA. Are U 2 so intent on disagreeing that you believe that? Purplepoppy, in the othe thread you equated what the Pope/Catholic church was doing to the Mennonites was political... so you don't think what the pope was doing was divisive? So it was equal to celebrating life?
If politics did not divide, why is there are Republican and Democratic party? along with the Independants,Libertarians and Green parties??

It is a contradictory statement.

OldFriends4Sale said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Right?! It's really getting out of hand.

uh, my gifs are responding to:Politics does not divide people anymore than celebrating life does

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that's why purplepoppy got the face, POLITICS DOES NOT DIVIDE PEOPLE? Seriously?? Look at what is happening right now in the country:USA. Are U 2 so intent on disagreeing that you believe that? Purplepoppy, in the othe thread you equated what the Pope/Catholic church was doing to the Mennonites was political... so you don't think what the pope was doing was divisive? So it was equal to celebrating life?
It is a contradictory statement.

I didn't read purplepoppy's comments about being "judge and juror" as having to do with your LSA-ish face GIFs. I think it is a continuation of his/her "dictatorship" on the org observation. Specifically, it has to do with, on the one hand, participating in a debate, while, at the same time, purportedly acting as a moderator. And then turning around, as the "moderator," and snipping comments that you don't like because they show up the fatal flaws in your argument. I've never seen anything like it.
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(BTW: I see that you added the Prince GIF while the thread was hidden for "moderation.")

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FlyOnTheWall said:

purplepoppy said:

So is this thread a dictatorship? No dissenting opinions will be tolerated?

That does seem to be the way of the org...and not just on this thread.

FlyOnTheWall said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

uh, my gifs are responding to:Politics does not divide people anymore than celebrating life does

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that's why purplepoppy got the face, POLITICS DOES NOT DIVIDE PEOPLE? Seriously?? Look at what is happening right now in the country:USA. Are U 2 so intent on disagreeing that you believe that? Purplepoppy, in the othe thread you equated what the Pope/Catholic church was doing to the Mennonites was political... so you don't think what the pope was doing was divisive? So it was equal to celebrating life?
It is a contradictory statement.

I didn't read purplepoppy's comments about being "judge and juror" as having to do with your LSA-ish face GIFs. I think it is a continuation of his/her "dictatorship" on the org observation. (BTW: I see that you added the Prince GIF while the thread was hidden for "moderation.")

U R opening a door you won't be able to close...
No one is forced to be on Prince.org... how does that make a dictatorship? Do we force you to pay any money. Do we demand that you sign in to the org twice a day every day? Do we jail or fine you for not participating?

If people cannot handle a disagreement in a debate... look up strawmen. People usually do that when they get frustrated in a debate...
There is Housequake.org there are other Prince sites and FB groups. No one is forced to be here or taxed to be here. Do you really understand what a dictatorship is? We should not tinker around with words that have serious world connections of devastations on a free site like the Org

And my name isn't Luv4u, I did not snip the comments.

I added the face asap after it was opened. I opened it. And so? that was the face I was originally looking for.

PennyPurple said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

That does seem to be the way of the org...and not just on this thread.

get an understanding of the difference between freedom and dictatorship

OldFriends4Sale said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I didn't read purplepoppy's comments about being "judge and juror" as having to do with your LSA-ish face GIFs. I think it is a continuation of his/her "dictatorship" on the org observation. (BTW: I see that you added the Prince GIF while the thread was hidden for "moderation.")

U R opening a door you won't be able to close...
No one is forced to be on Prince.org... how does that make a dictatorship? Do we force you to pay any money. Do we demand that you sign in to the org twice a day every day? Do we jail or fine you for not participating?

If people cannot handle a disagreement in a debate... look up strawmen. People usually do that when they get frustrated in a debate...
There is Housequake.org there are other Prince sites and FB groups. No one is forced to be here or taxed to be here. Do you really understand what a dictatorship is? We should not tinker around with words that have serious world connections of devastations on a free site like the Org

And my name isn't Luv4u, I did not snip the comments.

I added the face asap after it was opened. I opened it. And so? that was the face I was originally looking for.

Is that a threat? This thread is not about religion. It is about an article written by Lilly Workneh about Prince. It explores his political side that we are discussing in this thread, hopefully in peace. You are a participant AND the mod, we all know that.

OldFriends4Sale said:

PennyPurple said:

get an understanding of the difference between freedom and dictatorship

Oh we know the difference alright......

purplepoppy said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

U R opening a door you won't be able to close...
No one is forced to be on Prince.org... how does that make a dictatorship? Do we force you to pay any money. Do we demand that you sign in to the org twice a day every day? Do we jail or fine you for not participating?

If people cannot handle a disagreement in a debate... look up strawmen. People usually do that when they get frustrated in a debate...
There is Housequake.org there are other Prince sites and FB groups. No one is forced to be here or taxed to be here. Do you really understand what a dictatorship is? We should not tinker around with words that have serious world connections of devastations on a free site like the Org

And my name isn't Luv4u, I did not snip the comments.

I added the face asap after it was opened. I opened it. And so? that was the face I was originally looking for.

Is that a threat? This thread is not about religion. It is about an article written by Lilly Workneh about Prince. It explores his political side that we are discussing in this thread, hopefully in peace. You are a participant AND the mod, we all know that.

it is a fact of truth to show how silly the idea of something being a dictatorship is.

If it was a dictatorship, we would not be debating back in forth. Come back to reality.

PennyPurple said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

get an understanding of the difference between freedom and dictatorship

Oh we know the difference alright......

U cannot know the difference if equating something you don't like with a dictatorship. U joined the org for free and of your own free will. You agreed to rules of the org. The org does not force you to pay or log in, we all can leave whenever we feel like it. That is not a dictatorship.
People right now in this world live under real dictatorships.

SNIP - OF4S

SNIP

dupe

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OldFriends4Sale said:

get an understanding of the difference between freedom and dictatorship

PennyPurple said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

get an understanding of the difference between freedom and dictatorship

Oh we know the difference alright......

The American flag is yet another reminder of Prince's political nature. Anyone who thinks he was apolitical should take another listen to "America."

FlyOnTheWall said:

PennyPurple said:

Oh we know the difference alright......

The American flag is yet another reminder of Prince's political nature. Anyone who thinks he was apolitical should take another listen to "America."

means nothing. Prince 1985 is not the same Prince 2005 or 2015 in beliefs

patriotic vs political not the same

yes massa

OldFriends4Sale said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

The American flag is yet another reminder of Prince's political nature. Anyone who thinks he was apolitical should take another listen to "America."

means nothing. Prince 1985 is not the same Prince 2005 or 2015 in beliefs

patriotic vs political not the same

In 2015 he was political with Baltimore, in 1985 he was political with America. And the 2015 Grammy's: “Like books and black lives, albums still matter."

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Nobody got in nobody's way
So I guess you could say it was a good day
At least a little better than the day in Baltimore
Does anybody hear us pray
For Michael Brown or Freddie Gray?
Peace is more than the absence of war
Absence of war
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Are we gonna see another bloody day?
We're tired of the cryin' and people dyin'
Let's take all the guns away

PennyPurple said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

means nothing. Prince 1985 is not the same Prince 2005 or 2015 in beliefs

patriotic vs political not the same

In 2015 he was political with Baltimore, in 1985 he was political with America. And the 2015 Grammy's: “Like books and black lives, albums still matter."

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Nobody got in nobody's way
So I guess you could say it was a good day
At least a little better than the day in Baltimore
Does anybody hear us pray
For Michael Brown or Freddie Gray?
Peace is more than the absence of war
Absence of war
.
Are we gonna see another bloody day?
We're tired of the cryin' and people dyin'
Let's take all the guns away

Social Commentary. He was not political.

Social Commentary... promoting 'Albums Still Matter'

That song is everyones cry for peace. It is not political.

And appealing to God, is definately taking it right where he goes.

datdude said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

PennyPurple said:

In 2015 he was political with Baltimore, in 1985 he was political with America. And the 2015 Grammy's: “Like books and black lives, albums still matter."

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Nobody got in nobody's way
So I guess you could say it was a good day
At least a little better than the day in Baltimore
Does anybody hear us pray
For Michael Brown or Freddie Gray?
Peace is more than the absence of war
Absence of war
.
Are we gonna see another bloody day?
We're tired of the cryin' and people dyin'
Let's take all the guns away

Social Commentary. He was not political.

Social Commentary... promoting 'Albums Still Matter'

That song is everyones cry for peace. It is not political.

And appealing to God, is definately taking it right where he goes.

Whether you want to believe it or not, Prince was political. From some of his songs, to him working for causes behind the scenes, such as BLM & Trayvon Martin's family, amoung MANY others.

OldFriends4Sale said:

I think it has become clear on this thread that not everyone understands that political activity is not limited to the electoral realm. It can include producing artistic works that espouse political messages, delivering social commentary that speaks truth to power (and that encourages others to do likewise), donating to causes that reflect one's worldview, etc.