Billmeneverok said:

Dasein said:

I think Prince is proof of a Creator. But I also think we should recognize how hard he worked
at his craft. Just like Mozart, Prince was a proper steward of his craft. Music appears to have
been something he grasped with ease but we all know how many hours a day he practiced,
which is a human endeavor completely unattached to anything divine or supernatural or abstract
like "talent" and "genius."

I like your comment. Yep. I agree.

Totally agree.

ldmendes said:

Dasein said:

I think Prince is proof of a Creator. But I also think we should recognize how hard he worked
at his craft. Just like Mozart, Prince was a proper steward of his craft. Music appears to have
been something he grasped with ease but we all know how many hours a day he practiced,
which is a human endeavor completely unattached to anything divine or supernatural or abstract
like "talent" and "genius."

I am not a musician so I don't really understand the calling or devotion artists have for music. I am mystified about how much music Prince had in his head and the urge, drive and ability to put it on paper in such a short amount of time. To be self-taught, create, write, arraigned, sing, dance, produce, promote, teach and mentor. To me God, laid his hands on Prince and gave him this gift and mission to him alone. Nothing else makes sense.

But you don't have to be a musician to understand how the concept of "God" isn't so clearly
defined as the human activity of practice/hard work is.

Listen: if you have no "talent" (another abstract concept not so easily defined similar to God) for
music, but you spend hours upon hours every single day of practicing whatever instrument you
wish to play, after a point in time, you're going to be really, really, really good despite having no
arresting or natural talent in the first place.

Hard work.
Dedication.
Practice.

These are things that made Prince and other musicians just like him inspiring apart from having
an insane amount of talent!

Dasein said:

ldmendes said:

I am not a musician so I don't really understand the calling or devotion artists have for music. I am mystified about how much music Prince had in his head and the urge, drive and ability to put it on paper in such a short amount of time. To be self-taught, create, write, arraigned, sing, dance, produce, promote, teach and mentor. To me God, laid his hands on Prince and gave him this gift and mission to him alone. Nothing else makes sense.

But you don't have to be a musician to understand how the concept of "God" isn't so clearly
defined as the human activity of practice/hard work is.

Listen: if you have no "talent" (another abstract concept not so easily defined similar to God) for
music, but you spend hours upon hours every single day of practicing whatever instrument you
wish to play, after a point in time, you're going to be really, really, really good despite having no
arresting or natural talent in the first place.

Hard work.
Dedication.
Practice.

These are things that made Prince and other musicians just like him inspiring apart from having
an insane amount of talent!

With hardwork, dedication, and practice, anyone can be a really really good musician... But the true greats/geniuses have special talent that they are blessed with by the All Mighty... You can practice for decades and be able to play Prince songs but you will never have his talent for songwriting, singing, playing, dancing, creating, etc. etc. etc. And remember he was already doing this while in his teens. No way he got that good by just practicing. There was something special already there. You don't write so many incredible songs by just hardwork and practice.

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[Edited 1/27/17 16:30pm]

[Edited 1/28/17 18:01pm]

keep your atheism to yourself on this thread.

luvsexy4all said:

keep your atheism to yourself on this thread.

It has nothing to do with Atheism.

Everyone is capable of great talent, which has come about by the way humans have evolved biologically and socialy. It comes down to the induvidual and how they utilise what they're given - Prince rehearsed every day for 50 years, that's how he became so good.

Also, it's incredibly embarrasing that you would ask people to despense of their logic or empirical fact just because you don't like the answer.

williamb610 said:

Damn, man. Just listen to The Question of U.

Crank it all the way up or listen to it on low. That dude, man...

Every sound was in place from the dissonant flute to the flurry of keyboard notes toward the end.

Never again!

I'm just sitting here thinking about tracks from his career.

Yep, to me Prince was one in a billion(if that).There's never been any artist who's music has made me say(and think)...damn(in amazement)...more times than Prince's music has. Also, there's never been a artist who's music has made me cry or have my head in the clouds(in bliss), more times than Prince's music has. There's been plenty of extremely talented musicians, composers, etc, who's music i love, but none of them have consistently touched my soul, like Prince.


In regards to what you said about The Question of U? I feel the same way. I also pretty much feel that way about Elephants & Flowers. The Question of U is probably the more artistic of the two, but Elephants & Flowers is probably in the top 20 of Prince songs that i would hate to do without.

Another Prince song that gets to me is I Hate U. Just about every time i hear that, song i tear up a bit. Gold, is another one.

I understand that different melodies, etc, can produce different emotions, but IMHO, Prince was really truly blessed by the creator.

About the only living artists who's music has move me somewhat like Prince's music has, are Stevie Wonder, Todd Rundgren, Joni Mitchell, George Clinton, and Ronald Isley(with the Isley Brothers). Also, i love and lose my shit over the band Killing Joke.

Anyway, Prince's death was such a loss...

[Edited 1/29/17 19:47pm]

bluegangsta said:

williamb610 said:

Damn, man. Just listen to The Question of U.

Crank it all the way up or listen to it on low. That dude, man...

Every sound was in place from the dissonant flute to the flurry of keyboard notes toward the end.

Never again!

I'm just sitting here thinking about tracks from his career.

It's always refreshing to hear good ol' enthousiasm.

It's about the music, dude.

Adorecream said:

What about those people like me, who don't believe in God and just may think Prince had the musical gift in himself.

.

Besides what would music from God sound like if he existed.

If you consider God possibly being an entity composed of many entities, then it's fair to say that God encompasses all music, Prince, Bach and Manowar included.

And probably some Alpha Centauri minuetto never to be heard by our limited ears.

luvsexy4all said:

Prince's music came from Prince and all the artists before and contemporary with him that inspired him. That he was able to communicate his emotions and ideas through music more effectively and uniquely than most is no reason to give "God" the credit. Which God? Which conception of God?

Prince clearly had a lot of natural talent. Some people are simply born more physically suited to play basketball than others - they're born taller, faster, more agile, etc. Same goes for musicianship. Prince clearly had excellent natural sonic and rhythmic awareness, mental musical processing abilities and physical skills beyond the norm. But he also practiced his ass off, dedicating almost his entire life to his craft. Plus he was obviously brought up in an environment where music was everything. Prince was a powerful one-two punch of nature and nurture when it came to his musical abilities.

.

[Edited 1/29/17 3:15am]

Dasein said:

ldmendes said:

I am not a musician so I don't really understand the calling or devotion artists have for music. I am mystified about how much music Prince had in his head and the urge, drive and ability to put it on paper in such a short amount of time. To be self-taught, create, write, arraigned, sing, dance, produce, promote, teach and mentor. To me God, laid his hands on Prince and gave him this gift and mission to him alone. Nothing else makes sense.

But you don't have to be a musician to understand how the concept of "God" isn't so clearly
defined as the human activity of practice/hard work is.

Listen: if you have no "talent" (another abstract concept not so easily defined similar to God) for
music, but you spend hours upon hours every single day of practicing whatever instrument you
wish to play, after a point in time, you're going to be really, really, really good despite having no
arresting or natural talent in the first place.

Hard work.
Dedication.
Practice.

These are things that made Prince and other musicians just like him inspiring apart from having
an insane amount of talent!

Hear! Hear!

And that is precisely what separates Prince from a lot, if not all the performers.
It's not that MJ or George Michael or Freddie don't show the same hard-working man qualities.
It's just that Prince has a true, indestructible faith, and that no matter what your faith is or you don't have one.

When he cashes in 1985, he spends it all in a 50's B&W love comedy revival, full symphonic orchestra and shit and a Bela Lugosi spoof. The he spends some more on a ahead-of-its-time building that's still more beautiful today than any GAFA Campus, even if it screams 80's design all over, it's the zen of it. How can you not love a guy like this?
For staying and making business at home, where he grew up?
How can you not love a guy like this after hearing "Movie Star" or "The Sex Of It"?

Here's a man who knows "Purple Rain" the single is going to sell like nuts (this is post "When Doves Cry" and in the middle of the Purplemania), and puts a song called "God" on the B-Side.

I mean, not like he isn't already thanking God first and foremost on every album he puts out since 1978, noooo, the guy has to make an instrumental AND a vocal.
This is where Tipper Gore loses.
Prince's honest ackowledgement of our sexual drive paired with "God (vocal)", it's like a reply to the "Darling Nikki" screams, except these are not lust-induced, they're a revelation, a singer trying to be raw ecstatic, an impulse, technically there are inhaled notes, like a fucking didgeridoo with his throat, man, this is fucking art bitch, and it means more every time you come back to it.
Don't get me started on "Explicit Lyrics".

"God (instrumental)" works extremy well:

- when you have a serious heartbreak and you need to reconcile with all living things,
- when you have to add a meaning, deepful, profound touch to a razzie porn-like scene where Prince literally screwdrives Apples on the couch (imagine the version with stage sound, without the music) while performing one of his famous Hollywood fake kisses (a.k.a. "swallowin' the chin"), a scene so disturbingly arousing that after a whole minute of pussy grabbing the only thing that saves the theater from a global orgy is an early morning "I'll drive you at work" (further proof Purple Rain is a fake-macho movie aimed at the Moral Majority : "he drives her to work to the sidewalk where she belongs, that hooker. I mean what kinda woman walks in the street in underwear?") innuendo that reveals Skipper at his most unshaved, puppy breath early morning kiss on an ass freezin' cold Minnesota morning shot (take 21).

"God". A vocal on the 45 RPM, and an instrumental on the Maxi Single 45 RPM.

So, Prince is a Genius, and his faith makes him do extraordinary things he himself always admitted and repeated on record and on interviews, no matter which era.

Can this fact alter one's personal beliefs? Even Prince warned against it in Lovesexy. Lovesexy abstracted religion to hippies slogans ("Positivity", "Newpowersoul"), and that's fine, religion doesn't get anymore rock'n'roll than this. More serious, you lose the point. Kinda like "My Sweet Lord" from George Harrison.
What saves it from total, definitive ridiculousness? Something.
Prince is the greatest Christian Rock rocker ever (and Bono knows it), but he's not just that.
And Music isn't just Prince.

We're surrounded by genius. The very thing you're reading my words on is genius. It's glass, metal, plastic screws and little tiny, tiny pipelines connected to a whole lotta other pipelines, some electricty injected into the damn thing, and voilà.

Prince's music is part of God, but God isn't just that.
And "by that" I'm thinking the way atheist respect the concept of God, but don't adhere to it, which I respect.
I personally frown upon any hint of associating Prince and God to a point where the lines blur too much.
I don't want to race Mozart and Prince and [put your own unsung hero here] to know which one ranks first. Let me quote Skipper again: Love is free from all this.

Thank for all the other underground talented artists I've been curious of thanks to Prince's curiosity ethics. They're further proof Love is God, God is Love, talent is the most common trait in a child. But there's no good terrain for a child's talent to grow. Never has been. Most of the times it takes traumas (c.f. all serious rock heroes biographies and agiographies), and it's not a school system that allows for dreaming. Or is good at spotting if you lived a life-defining trauma last night, right before starting math class. Or whatever "Papa" themed story you'd like.
No time to tell each other our stories, take the wrong out of them, and share the result of our common, even if in loneliness, gained wisdoms.
The world as it is, not exactly a song of the heart my friend.

Yet, yet another fucking science fucking study says, once again, the most stupidly obvious thing like, "new study shows genius and creators let their mind w(a/o)nder", "more brain connections in people playing a music instrument", and tons of other "here's what you should do to live happily" except the reality is that the A&R, the CEO and other "hommes pressés" guys have a dollar clock to tick with.
Can't let the child wander too much, you've got to turn him/her into a productive mouse sooner or later. I'll let you check with Lou Reed, he has a thing or two to say on the subject of Men Of Good Fortune.

And so goes the world.
Thank you Lord.
"Grazie, Signore."




I can understand all the indulgences of the Slave/Gold/Tafkap era, as Sananda recently said, he earned his right to be a Primadonna, Prince never rubbed my a penny, I'm glad for every cent I could give him, even on the most strange, clunky obscure semi-avorted patched project like 1-800-NEWFUNK. He was just too busy trying to get all of his fantasy out there.

With no boundaries (even if that brought him close to bankruptcy), why would you stop?
But from the oustide, he looked to some of us like he was going a little overboard, with Ol' Larry and stuff. But again, his right: TRC is sublime, whether you believe it or not. I would add: it's sublime precisely because it's provocatory. No one wants to hear "You're either this or that". You react.

I didn't buy it all. But the most important ("Exodus") got somehow through.
I'll go Yoda mode and say that alone reinforces my faith.
Which is probably a faith as bizarre as yours.

On a personal level, yes, I do think Prince's gift comes from God.
If Prince ever said otherwise, he would have turned into someone ugly to me, on the spot.
He never showed he thought otherwise, he always stated it, he was just willin' to do The Work,
but it's not a guarantee of genius, it's just an artist duty.

Why a "duty"? Again, this is not a world that lets a child find what he wants to be.
You can have child-like cheesy interfaces and pink color and green,
you can talk about freedom concepts, but the moment the child finds they're not applied in the real life, shit hits the fan. Whether you turn out to be a creator, or extremely cartesian about it, I don't know, but most of the time this is the beginning of the slow death of the Inner Child, something Prince didn't let happen for himself.

One of the most admirable traits as a human being, is that with so much talents, there are a hundred ways this could have gone the snorting way (PR and curtains), the cuckoo way (The Chanel Experience, The Gucci Experience, the H&M Experience) or by simply plain, boring ol' 1999 post-1999 The Remix kind of sad, pathetic, ego-tripped funk.
Don't worry, he made that too, and it certainly wasn't coming from God.
Go listen to "The Breakdown" and "Way Back Home".

Prince's frequent reassociations with his own humility is what makes the guy really something.
And he played the christic figure for quite some time, so of course
every zealot, bigot, or even slightly remote catho-supporter believer will believe "talent and God are the same thing, hence Prince = God".

In the end, when it comes to Prince and good deeds, you just have to shut up.
Not like he's Gandi, but man, yeswecode is clever and on the long-term.

So add another layer of concreteness to that,
and it's a recipee for a cult. Which the Org is, right?

Exegetes are still debating and cussing over the possible inclusion of "My Little Pill" into God's Grand Book Of Creation®.

Personally, when I get too messianic about Skipper,
I go to the right speaker-only mix of "Poom Poom" and quickly remember he's also the funniest, coolest, baddest, most human headphones living spirit a high school kid could ever get.

[Edited 1/29/17 4:59am]

RicoN said:

iZsaZsa said:

RicoN said:

Keep your delusions to yourself on this site then,

You wouldn't have said that to Prince.

Shhh. You don't raise your voice in the Lord's house, son.

macdonaldsian said:

Lovejunky said:

Ive been listening with headphones lately...Then you can hear layer upon layer of delicious subtle colourful shades of often discordant melody and slightly out of time harmonies...the Perfection of his imperfection is something else....

Going to Listen to The Question of U AGAIN now...thanks for this thread...

The layered vocals...it's alway takes you in a different direction. One of my favorite things to listen for with headphone.

Agreed...Amazing to hear the overlaid tracks of his voice and its range.

iZsaZsa said:

RicoN said:

Keep your delusions to yourself on this site then,

You wouldn't have said that to Prince.

shoulda woulda coulda

bonatoc said:

Dasein said:

But you don't have to be a musician to understand how the concept of "God" isn't so clearly
defined as the human activity of practice/hard work is.

Listen: if you have no "talent" (another abstract concept not so easily defined similar to God) for
music, but you spend hours upon hours every single day of practicing whatever instrument you
wish to play, after a point in time, you're going to be really, really, really good despite having no
arresting or natural talent in the first place.

Hard work.
Dedication.
Practice.

These are things that made Prince and other musicians just like him inspiring apart from having
an insane amount of talent!

Hear! Hear!

And that is precisely what separates Prince from a lot, if not all the performers.
It's not that MJ or George Michael or Freddie don't show the same hard-working man qualities.
It's just that Prince has a true, indestructible faith, and that no matter what your faith is or you don't have one.

When he cashes in 1985, he spends it all in a 50's B&W love comedy revival, full symphonic orchestra and shit and a Bela Lugosi spoof. The he spends some more on a ahead-of-its-time building that's still more beautiful today than any GAFA Campus, even if it screams 80's design all over, it's the zen of it. How can you not love a guy like this?
For staying and making business at home, where he grew up?
How can you not love a guy like this after hearing "Movie Star" or "The Sex Of It"?

Here's a man who knows "Purple Rain" the single is going to sell like nuts (this is post "When Doves Cry" and in the middle of the Purplemania), and puts a song called "God" on the B-Side.

I mean, not like he isn't already thanking God first and foremost on every album he puts out since 1978, noooo, the guy has to make an instrumental AND a vocal.
This is where Tipper Gore loses.
Prince's honest ackowledgement of our sexual drive paired with "God (vocal)", it's like a reply to the "Darling Nikki" screams, except these are not lust-induced, they're a revelation, a singer trying to be raw ecstatic, an impulse, technically there are inhaled notes, like a fucking didgeridoo with his throat, man, this is fucking art bitch, and it means more every time you come back to it.
Don't get me started on "Explicit Lyrics".

"God (instrumental)" works extremy well:

- when you have a serious heartbreak and you need to reconcile with all living things,
- when you have to add a meaning, deepful, profound touch to a razzie porn-like scene where Prince literally screwdrives Apples on the couch (imagine the version with stage sound, without the music) while performing one of his famous Hollywood fake kisses (a.k.a. "swallowin' the chin"), a scene so disturbingly arousing that after a whole minute of pussy grabbing the only thing that saves the theater from a global orgy is an early morning "I'll drive you at work" (further proof Purple Rain is a fake-macho movie aimed at the Moral Majority : "he drives her to work to the sidewalk where she belongs, that hooker. I mean what kinda woman walks in the street in underwear?") innuendo that reveals Skipper at his most unshaved, puppy breath early morning kiss on an ass freezin' cold Minnesota morning shot (take 21).

"God". A vocal on the 45 RPM, and an instrumental on the Maxi Single 45 RPM.

So, Prince is a Genius, and his faith makes him do extraordinary things he himself always admitted and repeated on record and on interviews, no matter which era.

Can this fact alter one's personal beliefs? Even Prince warned against it in Lovesexy. Lovesexy abstracted religion to hippies slogans ("Positivity", "Newpowersoul"), and that's fine, religion doesn't get anymore rock'n'roll than this. More serious, you lose the point. Kinda like "My Sweet Lord" from George Harrison.
What saves it from total, definitive ridiculousness? Something.
Prince is the greatest Christian Rock rocker ever (and Bono knows it), but he's not just that.
And Music isn't just Prince.

We're surrounded by genius. The very thing you're reading my words on is genius. It's glass, metal, plastic screws and little tiny, tiny pipelines connected to a whole lotta other pipelines, some electricty injected into the damn thing, and voilà.

Prince's music is part of God, but God isn't just that.
And "by that" I'm thinking the way atheist respect the concept of God, but don't adhere to it, which I respect.
I personally frown upon any hint of associating Prince and God to a point where the lines blur too much.
I don't want to race Mozart and Prince and [put your own unsung hero here] to know which one ranks first. Let me quote Skipper again: Love is free from all this.

Thank for all the other underground talented artists I've been curious of thanks to Prince's curiosity ethics. They're further proof Love is God, God is Love, talent is the most common trait in a child. But there's no good terrain for a child's talent to grow. Never has been. Most of the times it takes traumas (c.f. all serious rock heroes biographies and agiographies), and it's not a school system that allows for dreaming. Or is good at spotting if you lived a life-defining trauma last night, right before starting math class. Or whatever "Papa" themed story you'd like.
No time to tell each other our stories, take the wrong out of them, and share the result of our common, even if in loneliness, gained wisdoms.
The world as it is, not exactly a song of the heart my friend.

Yet, yet another fucking science fucking study says, once again, the most stupidly obvious thing like, "new study shows genius and creators let their mind w(a/o)nder", "more brain connections in people playing a music instrument", and tons of other "here's what you should do to live happily" except the reality is that the A&R, the CEO and other "hommes pressés" guys have a dollar clock to tick with.
Can't let the child wander too much, you've got to turn him/her into a productive mouse sooner or later. I'll let you check with Lou Reed, he has a thing or two to say on the subject of Men Of Good Fortune.

And so goes the world.
Thank you Lord.
"Grazie, Signore."




I can understand all the indulgences of the Slave/Gold/Tafkap era, as Sananda recently said, he earned his right to be a Primadonna, Prince never rubbed my a penny, I'm glad for every cent I could give him, even on the most strange, clunky obscure semi-avorted patched project like 1-800-NEWFUNK. He was just too busy trying to get all of his fantasy out there.

With no boundaries (even if that brought him close to bankruptcy), why would you stop?
But from the oustide, he looked to some of us like he was going a little overboard, with Ol' Larry and stuff. But again, his right: TRC is sublime, whether you believe it or not. I would add: it's sublime precisely because it's provocatory. No one wants to hear "You're either this or that". You react.

I didn't buy it all. But the most important ("Exodus") got somehow through.
I'll go Yoda mode and say that alone reinforces my faith.
Which is probably a faith as bizarre as yours.

On a personal level, yes, I do think Prince's gift comes from God.
If Prince ever said otherwise, he would have turned into someone ugly to me, on the spot.
He never showed he thought otherwise, he always stated it, he was just willin' to do The Work,
but it's not a guarantee of genius, it's just an artist duty.

Why a "duty"? Again, this is not a world that lets a child find what he wants to be.
You can have child-like cheesy interfaces and pink color and green,
you can talk about freedom concepts, but the moment the child finds they're not applied in the real life, shit hits the fan. Whether you turn out to be a creator, or extremely cartesian about it, I don't know, but most of the time this is the beginning of the slow death of the Inner Child, something Prince didn't let happen for himself.

One of the most admirable traits as a human being, is that with so much talents, there are a hundred ways this could have gone the snorting way (PR and curtains), the cuckoo way (The Chanel Experience, The Gucci Experience, the H&M Experience) or by simply plain, boring ol' 1999 post-1999 The Remix kind of sad, pathetic, ego-tripped funk.
Don't worry, he made that too, and it certainly wasn't coming from God.
Go listen to "The Breakdown" and "Way Back Home".

Prince's frequent reassociations with his own humility is what makes the guy really something.
And he played the christic figure for quite some time, so of course
every zealot, bigot, or even slightly remote catho-supporter believer will believe "talent and God are the same thing, hence Prince = God".

In the end, when it comes to Prince and good deeds, you just have to shut up.
Not like he's Gandi, but man, yeswecode is clever and on the long-term.

So add another layer of concreteness to that,
and it's a recipee for a cult. Which the Org is, right?

Exegetes are still debating and cussing over the possible inclusion of "My Little Pill" into God's Grand Book Of Creation®.

Personally, when I get too messianic about Skipper,
I go to the right speaker-only mix of "Poom Poom" and quickly remember he's also the funniest, coolest, baddest, most human headphones living spirit a high school kid could ever get.

[Edited 1/29/17 4:59am]

Anyone who believes some imaginary man in the sky is responsible for Prince must also say the same of Fergie, Justin Bieber & Courtney Love.

In other words, you're full of shit.

Prince was blessed with genetics, talent, perseverance & luck. Not divine intervention.

LittlePurpleYoda said:

Anyone who believes some imaginary man in the sky is responsible for Prince must also say the same of Fergie, Justin Bieber & Courtney Love.

In other words, you're full of shit.

Prince was blessed with genetics, talent, perseverance & luck. Not divine intervention.

Interesting Choice of word there...

RicoN said:

LittlePurpleYoda said:

Anyone who believes some imaginary man in the sky is responsible for Prince must also say the same of Fergie, Justin Bieber & Courtney Love.

In other words, you're full of shit.

Prince was blessed with genetics, talent, perseverance & luck. Not divine intervention.

and Ed Gein, or Josef Fritzel and Hitler every child killing paedophile ever too...

Or y ucan just admit, like LPY says, it's all bullshit.

Dasein said:

ldmendes said:

The more you listen the more you respect, admire love and miss him..he truely was a genuis..no one compares.. a gift from God..I suggest trying to get the best sound quality of his recordings as you can, avoid the bootlegs.I listen to records..amazing..you can hear every sound he made and he made them all count..check it out if you can.

I think Prince is proof of a Creator. But I also think we should recognize how hard he worked
at his craft. Just like Mozart, Prince was a proper steward of his craft. Music appears to have
been something he grasped with ease but we all know how many hours a day he practiced,
which is a human endeavor completely unattached to anything divine or supernatural or abstract
like "talent" and "genius."

I think Donald Trump is the proof there is no creator.

luvsexy4all said:

bluegangsta said:

His music was from his brain. No need to add nonsense-poeticisms to something already poetic.

..and God made his unique brain..

and who made god?

Y'all are going to get this moved to P&R.

kepurplehunter said:

Billmeneverok said:

RicoN said:

luvsexy4all said:

keep your atheism to yourself on this thread.

Keep your delusions to yourself on this site then,

what delusions do u think I have?

luvsexy4all said:

RicoN said:

luvsexy4all said: Keep your delusions to yourself on this site then,

what delusions do u think I have?

the delusion where you think that you are in a postiton to command people who have an absence of faith in a cloudy beardy man to keep quiet

RicoN said: