crimesofparis said:

PennyPurple said:

A true stutter'er doesn't just hesitate before they speak, they actually have problems forming the words. There are people who are true stutters but in certain conditions do not stutter. For example Mel Tillis, he is a true stutter'er but when he sings he doesn't stutter. My brother is a true stutter'er but when he's very, very angry he doesn't stutter. Along with stuttering, they also have facial ticks when they are trying to get the words out.

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Prince is/was not a true stutter'er.

I don't think anyone truly stutters when they sing. I stutter from time to time (thankfully, it's not bad), so in my research on how to, well, NOT stutter, I read that it's not possible to stutter when you're singing or swearing (might explain why your brother doesn't stutter when he's angry).

My parents tried everything and every avenue to help him, they went to the top of the line speech therapists, they sent him to speech therapy schools on the weekends. Of course nothing helped. They were just trying to grab at tree branches. There is something now I think they can implant a device behind the ear or something that is supposed to help. He thought about doing that when he was in his 20's but never did.

crimesofparis said:

tigerlilyluv said:

crimesofparis said:

I don't think anyone truly stutters when they sing. I stutter from time to time (thankfully, it's not bad), so in my research on how to, well, NOT stutter, I read that it's not possible to stutter when you're singing or swearing (might explain why your brother doesn't stutter when he's angry).

My brother doesn't stutter when he sings. I don't know about the swearing part.

I haven't heard my brother sing, but he does get angry and let's it all go.

PennyPurple said:

ladygirl99 said:

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purplethunder3121 said:

Oy vey.

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In my opinion, he was not a true stutter'er. When people are true stutter'ers they can't just turn it off. Believe me, as much as they want to turn it off, they can not.

ladygirl99 said:

patchab said:

How did you know that Prince took anti-anxiety medication? It's just a guess, right?

I guess he'd always wanted that because of his height and the insults that he experienced, but I'm not sure if these drugs were already available when he would have needed them.

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Google is your friend about finding articles that he was taking Xanax and it was found by the police. Also check with StarTribune articles.

People who suffers from anxiety tend to stutter at environments where they are not familar. I know this because I suffer from anxiety myself.

If he did stutter it was more out of nervous maybe link to his anxiety. I watched numerous of his interviews and he spoken clearly yet I notice he was more cautious before he spoke. He also looked nervous. Public speaking and doing interviews are not his thing but he tried.

He also had history of depression and he admitted this in his interviews. Depression and anxiety are often connected.

And I really wish people need to stop hijack threads because they have dull lives outside the org just to start arguments. And also everyone tried to relate themselves to Prince all the time whether through a song or a story of his life, so whats wrong with that? People who are smart enough know Prince was his own person no need for reminder. Because we want to feel more connected with him even if he is no with us. But this post doesn't refer to you patchab, so no offense.

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I agree with Ladygirl99, as both anxiety and depression are associated closely to each other and I also agree with PennyPurple as stuttering is also associated with facial tics, which I have noticed in various Prince interviews...chronic facial tic. Have you ever wondered how he sometimes looks down and his eyes double blink or his left eye fluters and his lip/cheek also contracts when he is not looking directly at anybody speaking?

All of this is also related to seizure disorder which according to his angel story was lifted from him during childhood.

Xanax is an older drug and that is what the ME found in the tox screen.

I would like to mention that every single one of us relates to him in our own special way. Either the music directly, the composition, the story of his life, the story of the songs, etc..the evolution of the man is what we all relate to in one way or another.

ladygirl99 said:

patchab said:

How did you know that Prince took anti-anxiety medication? It's just a guess, right?

I guess he'd always wanted that because of his height and the insults that he experienced, but I'm not sure if these drugs were already available when he would have needed them.

[Edited 1/17/17 14:01pm]

[Edited 1/17/17 14:04pm]

Google is your friend about finding articles that he was taking Xanax and it was found by the police. Also check with StarTribune articles.

People who suffers from anxiety tend to stutter at environments where they are not familar. I know this because I suffer from anxiety myself.

If he did stutter it was more out of nervous maybe link to his anxiety. I watched numerous of his interviews and he spoken clearly yet I notice he was more cautious before he spoke. He also looked nervous. Public speaking and doing interviews are not his thing but he tried.

He also had history of depression and he admitted this in his interviews. Depression and anxiety are often connected.

And I really wish people need to stop hijack threads because they have dull lives outside the org just to start arguments. And also everyone tried to relate themselves to Prince all the time whether through a song or a story of his life, so whats wrong with that? People who are smart enough know Prince was his own person no need for reminder. Because we want to feel more connected with him even if he is no with us. But this post doesn't refer to you patchab, so no offense.

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When did Prince admit to suffering from depression ?

no.

SpinsterSister said:

ladygirl99 said:

Google is your friend about finding articles that he was taking Xanax and it was found by the police. Also check with StarTribune articles.

People who suffers from anxiety tend to stutter at environments where they are not familar. I know this because I suffer from anxiety myself.

If he did stutter it was more out of nervous maybe link to his anxiety. I watched numerous of his interviews and he spoken clearly yet I notice he was more cautious before he spoke. He also looked nervous. Public speaking and doing interviews are not his thing but he tried.

He also had history of depression and he admitted this in his interviews. Depression and anxiety are often connected.

And I really wish people need to stop hijack threads because they have dull lives outside the org just to start arguments. And also everyone tried to relate themselves to Prince all the time whether through a song or a story of his life, so whats wrong with that? People who are smart enough know Prince was his own person no need for reminder. Because we want to feel more connected with him even if he is no with us. But this post doesn't refer to you patchab, so no offense.

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I agree with Ladygirl99, as both anxiety and depression are associated closely to each other and I also agree with PennyPurple as stuttering is also associated with facial tics, which I have noticed in various Prince interviews...chronic facial tic. Have you ever wondered how he sometimes looks down and his eyes double blink or his left eye fluters and his lip/cheek also contracts when he is not looking directly at anybody speaking?

All of this is also related to seizure disorder which according to his angel story was lifted from him during childhood.

Xanax is an older drug and that is what the ME found in the tox screen.

I would like to mention that every single one of us relates to him in our own special way. Either the music directly, the composition, the story of his life, the story of the songs, etc..the evolution of the man is what we all relate to in one way or another.

People who suffers from anxiety tend to stutter at environments where they are not familar. I know this because I suffer from anxiety myself.

On the benzos... I've been on meds for years now (took Klonopin) on Ativan. Never took Xanax, though. I've suffered from Social anxiety that always lead to deep bouts of depression pretty much all my life and would get something that might be similar to "facial tics", but it isn't just my face, and I think for me it's more like very light, but uncontrollable trembling not facial tics. But it's hardly noticeable by others. I even sometimes get the stomach pains that Prince said he would get during his depression. But I don't stutter. I think maybe he was trying to guard his words, or was being cautious not to give away something he wasn't trying to give away, or maybe didn't want people to have the wrong idea about him, or possibly just related to the epilepsy? But there are some small habits I've noticed in him while watching his videos, interviews, etc that I think might be related to his anxiety. I haven't noticed one eye flutter in any of his vids, though. One thing that I've always been curious about is at times he would be talking and it would look like he's talking to someone that's not there.

SpinsterSister said:

ladygirl99 said:

Google is your friend about finding articles that he was taking Xanax and it was found by the police. Also check with StarTribune articles.

People who suffers from anxiety tend to stutter at environments where they are not familar. I know this because I suffer from anxiety myself.

If he did stutter it was more out of nervous maybe link to his anxiety. I watched numerous of his interviews and he spoken clearly yet I notice he was more cautious before he spoke. He also looked nervous. Public speaking and doing interviews are not his thing but he tried.

He also had history of depression and he admitted this in his interviews. Depression and anxiety are often connected.

And I really wish people need to stop hijack threads because they have dull lives outside the org just to start arguments. And also everyone tried to relate themselves to Prince all the time whether through a song or a story of his life, so whats wrong with that? People who are smart enough know Prince was his own person no need for reminder. Because we want to feel more connected with him even if he is no with us. But this post doesn't refer to you patchab, so no offense.

[Edited 1/17/17 18:20pm]

I agree with Ladygirl99, as both anxiety and depression are associated closely to each other and I also agree with PennyPurple as stuttering is also associated with facial tics, which I have noticed in various Prince interviews...chronic facial tic. Have you ever wondered how he sometimes looks down and his eyes double blink or his left eye fluters and his lip/cheek also contracts when he is not looking directly at anybody speaking?

All of this is also related to seizure disorder which according to his angel story was lifted from him during childhood.

Xanax is an older drug and that is what the ME found in the tox screen.

I would like to mention that every single one of us relates to him in our own special way. Either the music directly, the composition, the story of his life, the story of the songs, etc..the evolution of the man is what we all relate to in one way or another.

People who suffers from anxiety tend to stutter at environments where they are not familar. I know this because I suffer from anxiety myself.

On the benzos... I've been on meds for years now (took Klonopin) on Ativan. Never took Xanax, though. I've suffered from Social anxiety that always lead to deep bouts of depression pretty much all my life and would get something that might be similar to "facial tics", but it isn't just my face, and I think for me it's more like very light, but uncontrollable trembling not facial tics. But it's hardly noticeable by others. I even sometimes get the stomach pains that Prince said he would get during his depression. But I don't stutter. I think maybe he was trying to guard his words, or was being cautious not to give away something he wasn't trying to give away, or maybe didn't want people to have the wrong idea about him, or possibly just related to the epilepsy? But there are some small habits I've noticed in him while watching his videos, interviews, etc that I think might be related to his anxiety. I haven't noticed one eye flutter in any of his vids, though. One thing that I've always been curious about is at times he would be talking and it would look like he's talking to someone that's not there.

@ladygirl99

No, I mean it. It think he was a mild stutterer.

patchab said:

I once read in an article that Prince in private was rather soft-spoken, mumbling and that he stuttered a bit.

I didn't pay a lot of attention to it until I watched the video that was taken of him during the recording with Mavis Staples (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMVoalxeISU).

At 4:36 you can see Prince closing his eyes, taking a deep breath, then some body movements (all typical stuttering symptoms) and then saying "M-mmmm-ost".

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My stepfather was a stutterer so I have seen how it is too.

But Prince a stutter? I say NO.

I also think he would have mentioned it at some time if he had of been just like he has discussed the other child hood things - and his friends would have mentioned it too by now.

Doozer said:

FYI: Stuttering is a communication disorder in which the flow of speech is broken by repetitions (li-li-like this), prolongations (lllllike this), or abnormal stoppages (no sound) of sounds and syllables. There may also be unusual facial and body movements associated with the effort to speak. Stuttering is also referred to as stammering

You would be surprised at the list of WELL KNOWN FOLKS who stutter. I have had the same problem since I could talk. Folks like James Earl Jones, Samuel L. Jackson, and others are listed here as listed by the "Stuttering Foundation" James Earl Jones has been pretty much an ambassador for this organization for many years now. He once said in a speech he gave at one of their meetings that acting was one of the many times he did not stutter because he rehearsed his lines so much that he could quote them without stuttering but when it came to accepting an award or normal everyday talking he struggled.

I encourage you to educate yourself on this very real disorder...I am not saying Prince was one that did but it would not shock me especially when you see the list of those who were/are that are well known...

http://www.stutteringhelp...mouspeople