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9 months in and only now they contact the people that called PP on that day? Could this have been a friend messing with you? It just seems so strange, to ask such important things on the phone. I have no idea how the Police work in the USA, but perhaps that's not common pratice? | |
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MMJas said: 9 months in and only now they contact the people that called PP on that day? Could this have been a friend messing with you? It just seems so strange, to ask such important things on the phone. I have no idea how the Police work in the USA, but perhaps that's not common pratice? "9 months in...", my thoughts exactly! THE only solice in this is that they seem to actually be working on the case...if you'd call it that. And no, this was not a prank by justme2u's friends. He/she is scared shitless right now, notice the OP is no longer replying on this thread | |
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Do you realize HOW MANY PEOPLE probably called PP that day? Probably several thousand. Of /course/ it took them nine months to get to the OP -- there's likely a very large volume of calls to get through and check out. And they're probably checking every single one.
And they aren't always going to come to your house just for a phone call; I mean, really, they probably don't think OP did anything particularly suspicious, but they have to check anyway. Geez, calm the fuck down, they aren't trying to get into her entire life, they just wanted to confirm that this particular person didn't do anything to Prince.
I mean, come on, I had the FBI ask me about a guy whose dogs I was walking. Turns out the guy was into money laundering. I didn't know that, but damn straight I wasn't going to be all hedgy about why I was there. THAT would have been more interesting than offering to take them up and open the damn door for them, which they didn't want me to do, just to confirm whether they were there or not for them. To this day, I have no idea whether the guy was there on that particular day, but it would NOT have been smart to be a dick to two federal agents for no reason.
Stop being paranoid. Sometimes they really are just checking boxes, folks. Relax. I imagine myself inside your bedroom; oh, I imagine myself in your sky.
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laytonian said: precioux said: Thanks for that, Laytonian...you are referencing a cell phone here. My original question was in reference to having the capability to trace an incoming call to PP's land line if it did not connect. I don't think the same applies. If, in fact it does, PLEASE correct me! Peace It is. Phone calls are routed through the same switching centers whether they are to/from a landline or cellphone. Everything leaves a trace. If you have VOIP, your trace is also your IP address, which would link you to your other online activities. Peace and Love 4 One Another[/quote] And even if you think you don't have VOIP - you may. When VOIP tech was arriving in the late 90s, the jump from VOIP to landlines was performed by expensive server hops. Have to imagine it's all VOIP by now, even if we don't know it, with the occasional hop. So - it's all traceable with digital IDs. | |
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. . You don't have to be a jerk to federal agents. They can certainly ask. But being party to an investigation without probable cause is at the heart of 4th Amendment and Privacy: . . The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. . . | |
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If the agent saw that the poster also called electric fetus, don't they have to have a warrant to look at your phone records? And do you have to be notified of the warrant? | |
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SpookyNopetopus said: Do you realize HOW MANY PEOPLE probably called PP that day? Probably several thousand. Of /course/ it took them nine months to get to the OP -- there's likely a very large volume of calls to get through and check out. And they're probably checking every single one.
And they aren't always going to come to your house just for a phone call; I mean, really, they probably don't think OP did anything particularly suspicious, but they have to check anyway. Geez, calm the fuck down, they aren't trying to get into her entire life, they just wanted to confirm that this particular person didn't do anything to Prince.
I mean, come on, I had the FBI ask me about a guy whose dogs I was walking. Turns out the guy was into money laundering. I didn't know that, but damn straight I wasn't going to be all hedgy about why I was there. THAT would have been more interesting than offering to take them up and open the damn door for them, which they didn't want me to do, just to confirm whether they were there or not for them. To this day, I have no idea whether the guy was there on that particular day, but it would NOT have been smart to be a dick to two federal agents for no reason.
Stop being paranoid. Sometimes they really are just checking boxes, folks. Relax. Thanks everyone for your input. Could woulda shoulda. I've never ever been approached by a federal police agency before in this type of situation. Had I read this thread before I got the call I may have responded to the call differently. I have been thinking of calling the agent back on Tuesday to ask how he got my info but I feel at this point I should leave the sleeping dog lie. And thank you spooky I feel a little better after your comment. Not by much but a little better. And thanks precioux. I don't know you but you've been very nice. | |
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Asking you why you called a place where somebody died isn't exactly unreasonable search. Asking why she called Electric Fetus? Maybe. Maybe not. It's not like she can't hit that number and ask why they asked about that -- they'd have to tell her.
My GUESS is it's fairly known Prince went to Electric Fetus a lot, so technically if she were a dealer, did she meet him there -- but still, she can be like WHY DID YOU ASK.
It still doesn't rise to the level of hysteria I'm seeing here. I imagine myself inside your bedroom; oh, I imagine myself in your sky.
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They don't "have " to tell anybody anything. I am glad the OP is leaving it be for now. Brand new boogie without the hero. | |
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well, if this is true, at least their still working on it. | |
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justme2u said: FUNKNROLL said:
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I would expect the NSA could know you called a record store and your Facebook habits. But the DEA, knowing those things about somebody who randomy called PP? That... was surprising.
OP - can you confirm, the DEA knew you called the record store and somehow knew your Facebook habits? Did that not seem odd to you?
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"2 all the haterz on the internet somebody's lookin' at you they got ur number now, fool"
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The whole thing had me very nervous. I asked if I needed an attorney. I'm sure they have a subpoena for the home records of PP. that probably led to my cell phone and gave them what ever authority they needed for other calls I've made. I have no doubt what so ever that the call was from the DEA and that it was legit. Once they have a name I imagine it's easy to look someone up on face book and see what kind of activity one has there. Most of my Facebook is prince related groups. I asked the agent about Kirk Johnson and he said he couldn't reveal anything. I said someone had to be the last person to see Prince. I would have asked him that too. Did you happen to get the detectives name? I was thinking about sending him a letter. I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R. | |
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I was called this morning by a Minneapolis phone number . I didn't answer but called it back and its just busy. Anyone else getting calls from Minneapolis ? I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R. | |
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No. But how did they get your phone number? Same way as justme2u (facebook, or by calling paisely park)? | |
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Could it possibly be that the Org, is handing out information on all of our accounts and they are tracking us down this way? | |
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Interesting to say the least. | |
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This is curious, because now in red print, the mods are stating that they will be shutting down Prince and death related threads until 4/21/17. This was not posted until it was mentioned in another thread about THIS thread regarding calls from Minnie to posters here on the org. | |
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Freaky! So they are still investigating....hhhmmm? | |
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I know, it's strange. Normally they would have to acquire a warrant to the Org for posters info. But with all the crazy rules and bannings here lately, the Org, might have just handed over that info, with just being asked and not a warrant. OR the Org, might not have gave anybody the info. I don't know?? | |
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Here is what the Org says:
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I can remember back in April people on various platforms were throwing around all sorts of telephone numbers to call for information in Minnesota. From the Trib to investigators - fams were going crazy and dialling everyone or every entity they thought might give them information. I am not surprised some were caught up in the investigation. I don't know one person who knows anything but speculation. | |
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I am just putting this out there to let y'all know that Law Enforcement has several ways to investigate people. If for instance they are investigating who called PP for let's say 30 days prior to April 21st, they could obtain the log of all calls in and out of PP. They then take those phone numbers and run a trace. That trace has names (owners) and locations (addresses). They then take those names and run background checks through National Crime Information Center, then each state has a CIC of it's own. So for instance if they ran a check on me, they would run NCIC/TCIC. They can also run checks for warrants and wanted. There would be no reason to contact anyone because they know already. I am not saying that this did not occurr, just that it doesn't sound legitimate. I have been receiving calls from different states also, I don't answer if I don't know the #. They usually don't leave a message and I figure it is a telemarketing call. | |
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No. But how did they get your phone number? Same way as justme2u (facebook, or by calling paisely park)? Im tryin very hard to remeber if I called PP. I dont recall. However, I did call someone P worked with thats owns a studio. I got his phone number from the web and just called him up to ask him his thoughts on the way P died . He said nothing. But I think they got my number from Facebook. Like the OP said, the DEA said they seen her post on multible sites about Prince. I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R. | |
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Is it possible that they got his phone number from the call to EF, was able to review his phone records and find that the OP called PP as well? I'm not a human
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That means it is still being investigated thoroughly. Good news actually. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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Oh brother Look, people shouldn't go overboard over this situation, there's only ONE person who gave enough info to indicate follow-up is being done with her and it was due to her calling PP the day he passed. The op said it was a DEA number, so if anyone has received any calls from MN then it's pretty simple to determine if it's a DEA call. OF4S was asked in another post if the current handling of the Prince/drugs thread had anything to do with DEA contact and said NO. Please calm down people and direct these kinds of inquiries to the mods of prince.org, rather than starting yet another crazed panic over nothing. Geesh, are there only children posting here these days? Get a grip on it Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end | |
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