Militant said:

1) Unless you are a moderator, or the creator of a thread that has been removed that we have reached out to, you are not privy to why a thread is deleted, so anybody that says "This thread was deleted because XYZ" is basing that on nothing but pure guesswork.

2) No member has ever been banned for simply expressing an opinion. People get banned for flaming and attacking, which is a violation of the site rules. No, you are not permitted to attack moderators. That's true - because you're not permitted to attack anyone. It's right there in the site rules. It makes no difference if it's a moderator or a regular member.

3) It's a misnomer to say that threads that bashed Prince were allowed to stay and threads that bash associates were not. That assumes that all the moderators are a single entity with the same opinions on what should and should not be closed. I've removed dozens of threads that have bashed Prince over the years and so has literally every other mod. I'm also sure that I've missed a bunch and so have other mods. We don't get paid for this. We don't get to read every thread. I've said it a bunch of times - if you're unhappy with a post or a thread, report it and we'll take a look.

4) Being "neutral" is in itself taking a stance. Just like any other opinion, you are free to agree or disagree. If I remain "neutral" on the issue of the unsealed documents, for example, I am implicitly agreeing to it by not opposing it, just like if you do not act when you see someone getting abused in public you are helping the assailant by standing idly by. I disagree with these documents getting unsealed because the two people directly involved in them wanted them to remain sealed. I do not believe either of them should be attacked for it, and that's all there is to it.

5) I likely take more heat than any other mod due to my visibility, but there is something that remains 100% factual here, and that is that on any issue, every single mod here has taken an action on it. So while it's easy to see some threads getting snipped and deleted and concoct a ridiculous narrative about me, the fact is that other mods took that action in many of those incidents. I would daresay that luv4u takes more action on threads than I do, so what's the narrative there? This is what I mean when I talk about a false narrative. But, some people are gonna have preconceived notions and look for things that fit their narrative even when those things aren't there. I don't mind, it is what it is.

My account was 'frozen' for 48 hours, and I am yet to be given an explanation as to why!!

Genesia said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Two questions:

1.) Wasn't 2011 the year when Prince decided he was tired of celebrities asking for free tickets up front which took fans' abilities to buy good seats away. He denied Wesley Snipes tickets that year...its in the GQ article. Either Prince was being hardline with MG or his people just assumed it meant everyone who was famous who asked for free tickets.

2.) Where did you get that assumption that an assistant who was infatuated with P denied MG. Are you just making it up or did you hear something. Remember Manuela was not with him in 2011.

fanoftheman said:

malbena said:

With all this ongoing drama, it can be challenging to keep a timeline in check.

Malbena see i the link you provided"

Mayte post on fb about Prince charging her to see him play (now updated with new post by her)

I am really surprised there is no topic here yet about Mayte's fb status from 3 hours ago:

Wow! I got "approved" to go see my ex-husband play but was told I have to pay!!! won't get into details... But I'm told I have to pay!????



And her post after a lot of comments by her fb friends:

everyone don't hate him as an artist. This is my Facebook page to comment on things in my life. I commented that I was asked to pay. In a respect thing, I think it's disrespectful. Everyone has their views and things to say. Yes there are 2... sides but it's an issue of respect. That's all. Nothing else . Btw, I'm not going. Lets all go back to enjoying the music. And if you like him as a person ...so be it. I'm not saying anything bad. Just commented on what was said to me.
[Edited 5/28/11 9:20am]

MG says she wont go into details I beleive it was Prince's Assistant ot Manager at the time who was totaly infatuated with him and would not let MG near him.. she never mentions its actually Prince telling her directly she has to pay.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Prince would absolutely hate this. Where fans become "fanatics" in his own words. Not ya business.

purplepoppy said:

Prince would absolutely hate this. Where fans become "fanatics" in his own words. Not ya business.

Prince would also hate for her to make a big hoopla over it on Facebook in addition to other public statements. That does nothing but feed the frenzy.

rogifan said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

This is true. If there was an iota of smutty tingles in the divorce file, the Star Tribune would have reported it.

If you notice, the reporter talks only about P's signature and not the contents of the Order P signed.

I believe the Stipulation and Protective Order also relates to the sealing of the file.

Which is why all I can do is laugh at the pathetic Star Tribune. Prince has been gone now over 8 months and nothing scandalous has come out. Maybe that's because he might have been a unusual/quirky guy in some ways he was kind of boring as celebrities go.

You guys were repeatedly told that nothing scandalous was there in the first place and you were told why, but still insisted on


Why continue to over a tempest in a teapot? There are no winners or losers in this because it isn't a contest.

You can let it go now.

wonder505 said:

purplepoppy said:

Prince would absolutely hate this. Where fans become "fanatics" in his own words. Not ya business.

Prince would also hate for her to make a big hoopla over it on Facebook in addition to other public statements. That does nothing but feed the frenzy.

Thank you.

That is the elephant in the room that everybody is turning a blind eye to. Whining about privacy out of one side of your mouth while doing everything in your power to be seen in the media is contradictory and hypocritical.

A person simply cannot have it both ways. Putting yourself out there so enthusiastically and then expecting the media not to notice is stupid, period. It's what they do.

Quietly attending a memorial and making a brief, heartfelt statement would have sufficed, but no....

Out of sight out of mind would have avoided most of the scrutiny. There are a whole host of people who have respectfully remained low key such as Bria.

babynoz said:

rogifan said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: Which is why all I can do is laugh at the pathetic Star Tribune. Prince has been gone now over 8 months and nothing scandalous has come out. Maybe that's because he might have been a unusual/quirky guy in some ways he was kind of boring as celebrities go.

You guys were repeatedly told that nothing scandalous was there in the first place and you were told why, but still insisted on


Why continue to over a tempest in a teapot? There are no winners or losers in this because it isn't a contest.

You can let it go now.

You should write an illustrated book. Love it!

I must say however I did find one email interesting. The one about the house being gone. The tone of the email initially seemed friendly. At the end, Manuela says: "I better go" and Prince replies: "..rather you didn't but ok" Added to her initiating the divorce and Prince's attorney communicating that it was not what Prince wanted leads me to think that he indeed didn't want her to go.

malbena said:

babynoz said:

You guys were repeatedly told that nothing scandalous was there in the first place and you were told why, but still insisted on


Why continue to over a tempest in a teapot? There are no winners or losers in this because it isn't a contest.

You can let it go now.

You should write an illustrated book. Love it!

I must say however I did find one email interesting. The one about the house being gone. The tone of the email initially seemed friendly. At the end, Manuela says: "I better go" and Prince replies: "..rather you didn't but ok" Added to her initiating the divorce and Prince's attorney communicating that it was not what Prince wanted leads me to think that he indeed didn't want her to go.

Where are you reading these e-mails from??

malbena said:

babynoz said:

You guys were repeatedly told that nothing scandalous was there in the first place and you were told why, but still insisted on


Why continue to over a tempest in a teapot? There are no winners or losers in this because it isn't a contest.

You can let it go now.

You should write an illustrated book. Love it!

I must say however I did find one email interesting. The one about the house being gone. The tone of the email initially seemed friendly. At the end, Manuela says: "I better go" and Prince replies: "..rather you didn't but ok" Added to her initiating the divorce and Prince's attorney communicating that it was not what Prince wanted leads me to think that he indeed didn't want her to go.

Hey lady!

Wasn't that something posted separately by someone else though? I don't think it was part of the Tribune article.

We already knew about the house back when it happened but I don't know if you had already stopped visiting the org at that time. What is interesting about the emails and IMs is that they pretty much confirm what we suspected.

I imagine that he may have been open to continue counseling, but there are times when the universe/God or whatever we want to call it will remove people from your life to protect you. She tried to imply that he was happy and healthy when they were married but if that was the case then why did she leave? If they had stayed together, then m2 would have total control over everything now.

If she really knew something and was concerned at the time why not stay and help instead of posting shade years later on social media?

MMJas said:

malbena said:

You should write an illustrated book. Love it!

I must say however I did find one email interesting. The one about the house being gone. The tone of the email initially seemed friendly. At the end, Manuela says: "I better go" and Prince replies: "..rather you didn't but ok" Added to her initiating the divorce and Prince's attorney communicating that it was not what Prince wanted leads me to think that he indeed didn't want her to go.

Where are you reading these e-mails from??

Reply #100 on this thread has the links.

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

This is true. If there was an iota of smutty tingles in the divorce file, the Star Tribune would have reported it.

If you notice, the reporter talks only about P's signature and not the contents of the Order P signed.

I believe the Stipulation and Protective Order also relates to the sealing of the file.

--Do you think the protective order was the work product that was sent by his divorce attorneys to the probate court.

No because work product is information known only by the attorney and client.

The Stituplation and Protective order was filed in the divorce case, therefore, not only did Ps attorney know but so did M2 and her attorney.

It would NOT have required a waiver of attorney/client privilege. If it was filed in the divorce case it was no longer privileged information.

I hope I have explained this well enough because sometimes it gets confusing.

[Edited 1/18/17 13:02pm]

babynoz said:

MMJas said:

Where are you reading these e-mails from??

Reply #100 on this thread has the links.

Thanks.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

No because work product is information known only by the attorney and client.

The Stituplation and Protective order was filed in the divorce case, therefore, not only did Ps attorney know but so did M2 and her attorney.

It would NOT have required a waiver of attorney/client privilege. If it was filed in the divorce case it was not longer privileged information.

I hope I have explained this well enough because sometimes it gets confusing.

You did. Thanks.

babynoz said:

Hey lady!

Wasn't that something posted separately by someone else though? I don't think it was part of the Tribune article.

We already knew about the house back when it happened but I don't know if you had already stopped visiting the org at that time. What is interesting about the emails and IMs is that they pretty much confirm what we suspected.

I imagine that he may have been open to continue counseling, but there are times when the universe/God or whatever we want to call it will remove people from your life to protect you. She tried to imply that he was happy and healthy when they were married but if that was the case then why did she leave? If they had stayed together, then m2 would have total control over everything now.

If she really knew something and was concerned at the time why not stay and help instead of posting shade years later on social media?

Hey baby So true.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

babynoz said:

malbena said:

You should write an illustrated book. Love it!

I must say however I did find one email interesting. The one about the house being gone. The tone of the email initially seemed friendly. At the end, Manuela says: "I better go" and Prince replies: "..rather you didn't but ok" Added to her initiating the divorce and Prince's attorney communicating that it was not what Prince wanted leads me to think that he indeed didn't want her to go.

Hey lady!

Wasn't that something posted separately by someone else though? I don't think it was part of the Tribune article.

We already knew about the house back when it happened but I don't know if you had already stopped visiting the org at that time. What is interesting about the emails and IMs is that they pretty much confirm what we suspected.

I imagine that he may have been open to continue counseling, but there are times when the universe/God or whatever we want to call it will remove people from your life to protect you. She tried to imply that he was happy and healthy when they were married but if that was the case then why did she leave? If they had stayed together, then m2 would have total control over everything now.

If she really knew something and was concerned at the time why not stay and help instead of posting shade years later on social media?

It was, sweetheart, but I double checked on the reporter's twister and she published the pages taken from the unsealed divorce files...unless they are fake documents.

I knew about the house being gone, I'm referring to the "...rather you didn't (go) but OK" reply from Prince which left me thinking he didn't want her to go.

malbena said:

babynoz said:

Hey lady!

Wasn't that something posted separately by someone else though? I don't think it was part of the Tribune article.

We already knew about the house back when it happened but I don't know if you had already stopped visiting the org at that time. What is interesting about the emails and IMs is that they pretty much confirm what we suspected.

I imagine that he may have been open to continue counseling, but there are times when the universe/God or whatever we want to call it will remove people from your life to protect you. She tried to imply that he was happy and healthy when they were married but if that was the case then why did she leave? If they had stayed together, then m2 would have total control over everything now.

If she really knew something and was concerned at the time why not stay and help instead of posting shade years later on social media?

It was, sweetheart, but I double checked on the reporter's twister and she published the pages taken from the unsealed divorce files...unless they are fake documents.

I knew about the house being gone, I'm referring to the "...rather you didn't (go) but OK" reply from Prince which left me thinking he didn't want her to go.

Okay, gotcha.

babynoz said:

babynoz said:

rogifan said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: Which is why all I can do is laugh at the pathetic Star Tribune. Prince has been gone now over 8 months and nothing scandalous has come out. Maybe that's because he might have been a unusual/quirky guy in some ways he was kind of boring as celebrities go.

You guys were repeatedly told that nothing scandalous was there in the first place and you were told why, but still insisted on

this is my favorite thing today.

malbena said:

Purplestar88 said:

Very sad.

Agreed! I love them both.

I was wondering why they had not posted in a while..

malbena said:

GimmeThat said:

malbena said: I see your point for sure. I just think their afros (which was a look that he started to cultivate after she came into his life) and the fact they dressed alike are inspiration for some of the lyrics. He even wore a shirt with her face on it. Maybe it's about all of these ladies in some way. He unfortunately did not have a shortage of heartbreak.

Exactly! One can only speculate about his songs which is maybe what he intended to do by leaving interpretation run free. There is no shortage of women for sure to which any of the reference can apply.

I always thought the Most Beautiful Woman in the World was about Mayte yet Mani states in the Rolling Stone magazine that Prince told him it was about all the women in the world. This is even more confusing.

Carme Elktra said its about her or was given to her By Prince and posted a Card with him writting that for her on twitter or instagram....ther was a post about in in Asociated people Forum and He Did the "mustang Version in 94 and had Mayte in the Clip.. so probably more associated with Mayte as they danced to it.. but probably written with somone else in mind to start...

fanoftheman said:

malbena said:

Exactly! One can only speculate about his songs which is maybe what he intended to do by leaving interpretation run free. There is no shortage of women for sure to which any of the reference can apply.

I always thought the Most Beautiful Woman in the World was about Mayte yet Mani states in the Rolling Stone magazine that Prince told him it was about all the women in the world. This is even more confusing.

Carme Elktra said its about her or was given to her By Prince and posted a Card with him writting that for her on twitter or instagram....ther was a post about in in Asociated people Forum and He Did the "mustang Version in 94 and had Mayte in the Clip.. so probably more associated with Mayte as they danced to it.. but probably written with somone else in mind to start...

I saw that too. Prince was quite enigmatic and one can only let interpretation and imagination run free as of his intentions. Although he created a chaos in his "harem", he had the power of touching people's spirits in the most profound way.

malbena said:

fanoftheman said:

Carme Elktra said its about her or was given to her By Prince and posted a Card with him writting that for her on twitter or instagram....ther was a post about in in Asociated people Forum and He Did the "mustang Version in 94 and had Mayte in the Clip.. so probably more associated with Mayte as they danced to it.. but probably written with somone else in mind to start...

I saw that too. Prince was quite enigmatic and one can only let interpretation and imagination run free as of his intentions. Although he created a chaos in his "harem", he had the power of touching people's spirits in the most profound way.

This is all speculation.

I thought we werent posting anymore about speculation in the threads.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

malbena said:

I saw that too. Prince was quite enigmatic and one can only let interpretation and imagination run free as of his intentions. Although he created a chaos in his "harem", he had the power of touching people's spirits in the most profound way.

This is all speculation.

I thought we werent posting anymore about speculation in the threads.

actually carmen posted the evidence on her instagram shortly after he died. that part isn't speculative.

iciala397 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

This is all speculation.

I thought we werent posting anymore about speculation in the threads.

actually carmen posted the evidence on her instagram shortly after he died. that part isn't speculative.

Its Carmen's version of events.

We have no one to independently to confirm this speculation.

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