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Reply #1 posted 02/21/17 2:18am
Reply #2 posted 02/21/17 3:46am
trc1 
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The dirty nonsense I did with that CD.  "I don't make the rules. I just play" |
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Reply #3 posted 02/21/17 4:37am
bluegangsta 

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A thread, linking to another thread? Okie dokie.
I wish Eye Records would release a Come-only edition of Blast From The Past. That would be cool. Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain. |
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Reply #4 posted 02/21/17 4:55am
TrivialPursuit 

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I made a remix album of this, using almost all remixes. I enjoy it sometimes instead of the album itself, but I love both.
“Poem” and ocean sounds have been removed through out, and replaced with new ocean segues. No “Poem”. This runs only 4 seconds shorter than the original, although some tracks themselves differ in length.
- Come (alternate version #1 mixed with album version)
- Space (Universal Love Radio mix w/o rap)
- Pheromone (album version)
- Loose! (from Versace & Other Experiences mixed with elements from album version)
- Papa (album version)
- Race (from Versace & Other Experiences)
- Dark (from Crystal Ball)
- Solo (album version)
- Letitgo (Caviar Radio Edit)
- Orgasm (altered with new ocean segue)
Made a cover, too.

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Reply #5 posted 02/21/17 4:57am
databank 

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Scififilmnerd's 2009 series of threads was remarkable and super informative. It's good to see people still refer to them 8 years later  |
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Reply #6 posted 02/21/17 4:58am
databank 

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TrivialPursuit said:
I made a remix album of this, using almost all remixes. I enjoy it sometimes instead of the album itself, but I love both.
“Poem” and ocean sounds have been removed through out, and replaced with new ocean segues. No “Poem”. This runs only 4 seconds shorter than the original, although some tracks themselves differ in length.
- Come (alternate version #1 mixed with album version)
- Space (Universal Love Radio mix w/o rap)
- Pheromone (album version)
- Loose! (from Versace & Other Experiences mixed with elements from album version)
- Papa (album version)
- Race (from Versace & Other Experiences)
- Dark (from Crystal Ball)
- Solo (album version)
- Letitgo (Caviar Radio Edit)
- Orgasm (altered with new ocean segue)
Made a cover, too.

Please keep it for your own enjoyment and do not share it online. |
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Reply #7 posted 02/21/17 5:03am
TrivialPursuit 

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databank said:
Please keep it for your own enjoyment and do not share it online.
All music is for anyone's enjoyment I suppose. No one's advertising a torrent or wetransfer link or something.
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Reply #8 posted 02/21/17 5:39am
dance4me3121 |
TrivialPursuit said: I made a remix album of this, using almost all remixes. I enjoy it sometimes instead of the album itself, but I love both.
“Poem” and ocean sounds have been removed through out, and replaced with new ocean segues. No “Poem”. This runs only 4 seconds shorter than the original, although some tracks themselves differ in length.
- Come (alternate version #1 mixed with album version)
- Space (Universal Love Radio mix w/o rap)
- Pheromone (album version)
- Loose! (from Versace & Other Experiences mixed with elements from album version)
- Papa (album version)
- Race (from Versace & Other Experiences)
- Dark (from Crystal Ball)
- Solo (album version)
- Letitgo (Caviar Radio Edit)
- Orgasm (altered with new ocean segue)
Made a cover, too.
  very nice! Thanks for sharing the track list and cover |
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Reply #9 posted 02/21/17 6:25am
IstenSzek 
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databank said:
Scififilmnerd's 2009 series of threads was remarkable and super informative. It's good to see people still refer to them 8 years later 
they are some of the most informative writing on this site, ever 
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps |
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Reply #10 posted 02/21/17 8:29am
dodger |
IstenSzek said:
databank said:
Scififilmnerd's 2009 series of threads was remarkable and super informative. It's good to see people still refer to them 8 years later 
they are some of the most informative writing on this site, ever 
Agree, I remember reading this Come thread. And I'll probably read it again in work today.. |
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Reply #11 posted 02/21/17 8:58am
jaypotton |
I must have gone through a fallow period with the ORG back then as never saw this article. Reading it now. Very interesting.
I will take issue with the opening statement about Batman though!
It seems popular and revisionist to slag off Batman as being a huge disappointment (creatively) after the run of albums before which had become increasingly complex in arrangements etc culminating in the Lovesexy sound.
However, Batman was just another creative curve ball thrown by Prince in his continuing musical evolution, albeit a stripped back electronic sound that jarred with the warm dense complicated Lovesexy arrangements. In fact Batman (to me at least) feels like a logical extension of where Prince had been going with The Black Album.
The other thing negative reviews of Batman seem to forget is that many of the songs on the album were originally part of the planned 1989 Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic album that was shelved for Batman and then evolved into Grafitti Bridge minus the tracks used on Batman. Remove Batdance and the spoken parts taken from the movie and the songs on Batman fit fine with GB (and would have actually made a stronger album if focused purely on Prince songs instead of including people like Tevin Campbell).
Anyway that's my 2 pence...back to the article on Come! 'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything. |
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Reply #12 posted 02/21/17 9:04am
jaypotton |
Hmmm this isn't a completely original bit of writing though is it?
The sections titled "The Contract" and "The Start of the Friction Years" feel almost verbatim for something I have read before, just cannot place it yet! 'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything. |
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Reply #13 posted 02/21/17 9:21am
jaypotton |
Aha got it, knew I had read this before...
This is an almost verbatim copy of The Vault by Uptown!!!!
Is scififilmnerd anything to do with the Uptown team?
I can see a sources section at the bottom mentioning Days of Wild (precursor to The Vault) but I am surprised by this article being almost verbatim! I would say that is more than just using it as a source!
However, I am not taking away from what is still a great collection of information on this and the other "ultimate threads" which must have been an immense effort and provides a great read. [Edited 2/21/17 2:08am]
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Reply #14 posted 02/21/17 12:24pm
databank 

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jaypotton said:
Aha got it, knew I had read this before... This is an almost verbatim copy of The Vault by Uptown!!!! Is scififilmnerd anything to do with the Uptown team? I can see a sources section at the bottom mentioning Days of Wild (precursor to The Vault) but I am surprised by this article being almost verbatim! I would say that is more than just using it as a source! However, I am not taking away from what is still a great collection of information on this and the other "ultimate threads" which must have been an immense effort and provides a great read. [Edited 2/21/17 2:08am]
Also made at a time when The Vault had not yet leaked in PDF and was for the sole enjoyment of the lucky few who owned a copy  |
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Reply #15 posted 02/21/17 12:37pm
funkyfine 
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trc1 said:
The dirty nonsense I did with that CD. 
WITH the CD? Hmm. |
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Reply #16 posted 02/21/17 12:46pm
jdcxc |
IstenSzek said:
databank said:
Scififilmnerd's 2009 series of threads was remarkable and super informative. It's good to see people still refer to them 8 years later 
they are some of the most informative writing on this site, ever 
Yes. Hopefully he/she is writing a book somewhere. These are the kind of people that should be advising WB, Universal and the Estate. Come was underrated brilliance. I also loved the album art and photography. |
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Reply #17 posted 02/21/17 3:55pm
jaypotton |
databank said:
jaypotton said: Aha got it, knew I had read this before... This is an almost verbatim copy of The Vault by Uptown!!!! Is scififilmnerd anything to do with the Uptown team? I can see a sources section at the bottom mentioning Days of Wild (precursor to The Vault) but I am surprised by this article being almost verbatim! I would say that is more than just using it as a source! However, I am not taking away from what is still a great collection of information on this and the other "ultimate threads" which must have been an immense effort and provides a great read. [Edited 2/21/17 2:08am]
Also made at a time when The Vault had not yet leaked in PDF and was for the sole enjoyment of the lucky few who owned a copy  Yep like me! Still has pride of place on my book shelves. Indispensible (though teeny tiny font size lol) 'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything. |
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Reply #18 posted 02/21/17 3:55pm
TrivialPursuit 

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jaypotton said:
Hmmm this isn't a completely original bit of writing though is it? The sections titled "The Contract" and "The Start of the Friction Years" feel almost verbatim for something I have read before, just cannot place it yet!
It's a book I just downloaded in eBook format. The book you're referring to is Prince: The Man and His Music. by English author Matt Thorne. It was published in 2012, and republished (no doubt with updates) in 2016. Those phrases you mentioned are chapter titles.
I've not read the book, so I can't reference if it's the same verbiage or not.
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Reply #19 posted 02/21/17 3:57pm
djThunderfunk 

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TrivialPursuit said:
databank said:
Please keep it for your own enjoyment and do not share it online.
All music is for anyone's enjoyment I suppose. No one's advertising a torrent or wetransfer link or something.
databank has a pet peeve about fan versions (edit/tweaks/remixes) getting out and getting confused with the real thing by future newbies.
I don't think he's accusing you of anything he's just overly sensitive on this subject.
In my opinion it's one of the few things that he's wrong about, but that's ok, we don't have to agree on everything. Makes life more interesting...

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Reply #20 posted 02/21/17 5:30pm
databank 

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djThunderfunk said:
TrivialPursuit said:
All music is for anyone's enjoyment I suppose. No one's advertising a torrent or wetransfer link or something.
databank has a pet peeve about fan versions (edit/tweaks/remixes) getting out and getting confused with the real thing by future newbies.
I don't think he's accusing you of anything he's just overly sensitive on this subject.
In my opinion it's one of the few things that he's wrong about, but that's ok, we don't have to agree on everything. Makes life more interesting...

well, that was better summarized than I could have done it 
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Reply #21 posted 02/21/17 5:37pm
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Reply #23 posted 02/21/17 5:51pm
jaypotton |
scififilmnerd said:
jaypotton said: Hmmm this isn't a completely original bit of writing though is it? The sections titled "The Contract" and "The Start of the Friction Years" feel almost verbatim for something I have read before, just cannot place it yet!
Those were basically taken from the Days of Wild book. The article is a putting together of like, 15 different sources into a whole, so you only need to reed this article to get the full story of what is known instead of having to read 15 different things for the full picture - I did it for you.  And I can see that it was a lot of effort. This and your other "ultimate" threads are really helpful in pulling together all those sources so belated thanks from 2009  'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything. |
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Reply #24 posted 02/21/17 5:51pm
scififilmnerd 

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IstenSzek said:
databank said:
Scififilmnerd's 2009 series of threads was remarkable and super informative. It's good to see people still refer to them 8 years later 
they are some of the most informative writing on this site, ever 
Thank you, Istensexy. It's good to see my Ultimate threads are still brought up from time to time. Just a couple of weeks ago, an orger sent me a message about the Emancipation article that you contributed some information to.  FREE THE 29 MAY 1993 COME CONFIGURATION!
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Reply #25 posted 02/21/17 5:58pm
TrivialPursuit 

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databank said:
djThunderfunk said:
databank has a pet peeve about fan versions (edit/tweaks/remixes) getting out and getting confused with the real thing by future newbies.
I don't think he's accusing you of anything he's just overly sensitive on this subject.
In my opinion it's one of the few things that he's wrong about, but that's ok, we don't have to agree on everything. Makes life more interesting...

well, that was better summarized than I could have done it 
I get all that, but it's no different than simply creating a playlist on your iPhone or in iTunes or Spotify. The difference is that it's very specific to a Prince album, and mirrors the original tracklist. We consume music differently, whether it's a full album, or a playlist. Come Again is basically a playlist, beefed up a bit. I had a great time making it, especially adding elements of album versions into a couple of those songs (partly because I needed an ending and a continuity to the next song).
I did a similar playlist (not mixing anything different as I did with Come) for Batman. There are a few remixes out there, and alternative versions (like the NPGMC "Vicki Waiting") that I put together in the same order.
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Reply #26 posted 02/21/17 6:00pm
databank 

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scififilmnerd said:
jdcxc said:
Yes. Hopefully he/she is writing a book somewhere. These are the kind of people that should be advising WB, Universal and the Estate. Come was underrated brilliance. I also loved the album art and photography.
Thank you very much. I'm flattered. 
I may just publish updated editions of all the Prince Vs. WB chapters somewhere on the internet in the not so far future. 
That'd be great to read more from you again. There are a few of us doing different things... You with your WB Wars articles and the list of recording sessions (that would be in need of a major update by the way, and I ain't gonna be the one to do it ), me with my discography website (and I can't thank enough all the orgers who've helped me with proofreading, additional info and missing pieces of the puzzle over the years), Madhouseman with his super promising studio sessions research for his upcoming books, and of course Princevault with this awesome database they've been building, other people interviewing former associates for various podcasts or blogs, and hopefully whomever ends-up being curators for the estate will do a great professional job... With Prince gone I feel, in all humility considering the greatness of the musician whose memory we're trying to honor, that we have a responsibility to keep his legacy alive for future generations, because when our generation is gone then it'll become a matter for historians, while we are the ones who are living witnesses of Prince's musical journey... Just to say you're among those people who can bring a really cool contribution to this collective work, and I'll be super happy if you keep adding to your past reseach It'd be nice if you had a blog or website instead of just easily forgotten/lost threads on the org BTW  |
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Reply #27 posted 02/21/17 6:02pm
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databank said:
djThunderfunk said:
databank has a pet peeve about fan versions (edit/tweaks/remixes) getting out and getting confused with the real thing by future newbies.
I don't think he's accusing you of anything he's just overly sensitive on this subject.
In my opinion it's one of the few things that he's wrong about, but that's ok, we don't have to agree on everything. Makes life more interesting...

well, that was better summarized than I could have done it 
You and I have argued about this enough for me to remember. 
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Reply #28 posted 02/21/17 6:37pm
scififilmnerd 

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databank said:
scififilmnerd said:
I may just publish updated editions of all the Prince Vs. WB chapters somewhere on the internet in the not so far future. 
That'd be great to read more from you again. There are a few of us doing different things... You with your WB Wars articles and the list of recording sessions (that would be in need of a major update by the way, and I ain't gonna be the one to do it ), me with my discography website (and I can't thank enough all the orgers who've helped me with proofreading, additional info and missing pieces of the puzzle over the years), Madhouseman with his super promising studio sessions research for his upcoming books, and of course Princevault with this awesome database they've been building, other people interviewing former associates for various podcasts or blogs, and hopefully whomever ends-up being curators for the estate will do a great professional job... With Prince gone I feel, in all humility considering the greatness of the musician whose memory we're trying to honor, that we have a responsibility to keep his legacy alive for future generations, because when our generation is gone then it'll become a matter for historians, while we are the ones who are living witnesses of Prince's musical journey... Just to say you're among those people who can bring a really cool contribution to this collective work, and I'll be super happy if you keep adding to your past reseach It'd be nice if you had a blog or website instead of just easily forgotten/lost threads on the org BTW 
I am honored that you include me with all those orgers. 
My thoughts on publishing updated versions of my articles do seem to center around creating a blog for them. 
I've continously updated my list of recording sessions - even going so far as to now include edits. We'll see about finding an outlet for that... 
[Edited 2/21/17 10:38am] FREE THE 29 MAY 1993 COME CONFIGURATION!
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