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morningsong said:
-- The Olsen chick has screen shots on her Twitter of the e-mails. You have to be in the court house to access the whole file at least that is the talk on the Facebook pages. | |
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If you want a copy you can call the Carver County Court Administrator and ask what you need to do procedurally 952-361-1420. They can give you an estimated cost. Most likely they will want you to pay upfront. They may also require a request in writing. Most courts charge per page for all documents requested which could be costly if you want a full copy of the unsealed documents.
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Nevermind:lol: [Edited 1/16/17 18:43pm] | |
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laurarichardson said:
Well Van is saying he will not charge the estate anything so what is he going to gain. Do you think Londell is better? Since we now have proof he was doing unethical and illegal things with the estate money.
Van is going to work for free? Somehow I doubt that. Paisley Park is in your heart
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Thanks. I might try it. But I doubt I'd be interested in more than a handful of pages if that many. But don't know until I try. | |
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Lovejunky said:
I dont understand this at all 1Sasha
What the Estate needs now more than anything is Peace and Harmony amongst the siblings...
Once this is achieved things can move forward with great speed and precision.
Van loves Prince, worked with him for long time, is known to the family and is very good at getting people to see both sides of an argument. Point in Case his Documentary style series, The Messy Truth where he manages to facilitate open discussion between Trump and Clinton supporters, without arguments or ill feelings. This speaks Volumes about the Man...That he gives enough of a SHit to Unite people despite their opposing mood of "Party Spirit"
In my mind If Van gets involved I will feel a lot more at ease about a lot of stuff thats going down at the moment.
He has carried himself with grace and dignity all the way...
Van's experience is politics. What does he know about overseeing someone's musical empire? I watched his testimony and I'm sure he's a nice man and was a good friend to Prince but I didn't find his sales pitch very convincing. I don't think he or Londell should get the job. I think it should be someone completely independent with experience in the industry. If there are charitable endeavors that the Estate wants to continue supporting perhaps Van can oversee those. Paisley Park is in your heart
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i couldn't agreemore. they need an experienced and objective party running the estate, especially if tyka gets her wish to have 3 people with equal input. tyka and whomever else can speak for the prince side and leave the implementation to the "neutral" 3rd party. i heard nothing in his video that made him qualified to handle such a vast musical estate. if u could run the estate like u docommunity palnning then fine. but this is another beast entirely. a bene placito | |
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rogifan said: laurarichardson said:
Well Van is saying he will not charge the estate anything so what is he going to gain. Do you think Londell is better? Since we now have proof he was doing unethical and illegal things with the estate money.
Van is going to work for free? Somehow I doubt that. --We can only go by what he said. | |
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Let's be perfectly frank here: Prince left one heck of a mess for anyone to sort out. There has to be a team to come in - objectively - to resolve the issues facing the estate. For nearly a year they have been wading through matters that never should have needed to be addressed. If it was me, I would have begged the Eastmans (Paul McCartney's in-laws) to take this on or refer me to someone who could settle things and then run the estate properly for many years to come. | |
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1Sasha said: Let's be perfectly frank here: Prince left one heck of a mess for anyone to sort out. There has to be a team to come in - objectively - to resolve the issues facing the estate. For nearly a year they have been wading through matters that never should have needed to be addressed. If it was me, I would have begged the Eastmans (Paul McCartney's in-laws) to take this on or refer me to someone who could settle things and then run the estate properly for many years to come. ---Yes, Prince should have had a will however, wills can be contested. So there could have been trouble with his crazy sibs. He did not leave a mess. He had virtually no debt until the attorneys came calling. He had smart safe investments and he left an LlC for the publishing and other corporations with cash in their coffers. Almost all the claims have been disallowed and even the judge thinks those that have appealed will fail. The problems starred Londell who may have cut unfavorable deals to enrich himself and seems hell bent on pulling down the business structure Prince had instead of trying to build on what was already there. The key is to find someone honest who respects the legacy. | |
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LR, we'll agree to disagree on this. I have had to settle a multimillion dollar estate (of course, not as large as Prince's), and I went through something similar - estate planning was not done, and it took years to resolve. It didn't have to be that way. I don't agree with the people who say he didn't care what happened after he was gone. I think he would have wanted to see the groups he supported have some money, people (non-siblings) he truly loved have some money ... It's great to have the masters, but now what? Who will be helped? | |
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I understand exactly where you are coming from, also Rogifans stance...
But in My Opinion, only someone with Profound Love and Respect for Prince the Man, is going to be able to do this thing right.
Prince himself was known to hire people with Lesser experience , if their Overall Vibe and Fit was right...
I agree to disagree....
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Lovejunky said:
I understand exactly where you are coming from, also Rogifans stance...
But in My Opinion, only someone with Profound Love and Respect for Prince the Man, is going to be able to do this thing right.
Prince himself was known to hire people with Lesser experience , if their Overall Vibe and Fit was right...
I agree to disagree....
Why does it have to be only one person? I can't believe the only possible people able to oversee Prince's music are Londell McMillan or Van Jones. I don't think either is the right person to handle Prince's music. But there might be other areas where Van could assist, especially if he's willing to do without being paid. Paisley Park is in your heart
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. Being critical of the official line is crazy? You must be a Hillarity voter. 'nuf said about that. . I gues they will dump McMillan unless they are blind. Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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1Sasha said: LR, we'll agree to disagree on this. I have had to settle a multimillion dollar estate (of course, not as large as Prince's), and I went through something similar - estate planning was not done, and it took years to resolve. It didn't have to be that way. I don't agree with the people who say he didn't care what happened after he was gone. I think he would have wanted to see the groups he supported have some money, people (non-siblings) he truly loved have some money ... It's great to have the masters, but now what? Who will be helped? Once the appeals have been exhausted what will be the hold up. Taxes have to be paid but if he had just a will estate taxes would still have to be paid. A trust would have helped but MJ had a trust and the estate still got slammed with taxes. The truth of the matter is there is no reason charitable giving can't continue when things have been resolved. In addition, for all we know Prince may put some portion of his estate in a trust after all "Yes We Code" is still functioning and we never found out what the work product was from the divorce attorneys. Could have been money going to M2 charity as information was redacted and one line item for a liability on the inventory sheet is an asset that has been redacted. | |
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Charitable giving is a good thing, noble, helpful, compassionate, and just the right thing to do. . (Someone correct me if I get this wrong, I’m going from memory.) Van Jones stated that he was willing to continue running P’s charities ‘for free’ thus proving proof on how committed he was to these causes. This sends up a real RED FLAG for me. . IMO…There is more to Van than meets the eye and it may not be good (crocodile tears and all where he talks about P’s charitable activity – most of which was already public information for years if you looked – google is a beautiful thing). . Van’s offer to run these charities for free make me wonder about his true motivation. I have a feeling that Van’s motivation is nowhere close to what meets the eye and Van may have been taking quite a ‘commission’ from executing P’s charitable giving. So until we see Van’s full disclosure financial compensation agreements from any charity he is pushing, let’s reserve judgment. . The reason for my skepticism - this past summer I discovered something very disturbing pertaining to a charity that I supported and donated money to for years! As it turns out, the charity’s ‘collectors’ receive 35% of all the money they personally collected off the TOP, and an additional 5% if they recruited a new donor at a certain dollar amount – That’s 40% off the top, before the expenses of field offices, paid personnel, Manhattan offices, etc. Before ONE cent goes to the people for whom the charity was set up to help lots of people are making lots of money. . And at the risk of being perceived as totally insensitive to P’s charitable giving; objectively speaking (and perhaps legally speaking) all charitable contributions from P legally stopped on April 21 (to the best of our/my knowledge). . On this board… many keep talking about trusts, as if they are the magic answer to every mystery … I don’t think they are as easy many think to move money in and out of, legally set up (registered with the county), or if they are easy to dissolve if you change your mind, a legal charity would have to be registered and approved by the IRS, tax returns filed, and probably way much more than I am aware of…. Lawyers here please elaborate. . If yours or my relative passed leaving money, who the h*ll is Van (or anyone else) to tell anyone what they can and can’t do with their own money. Sheeesh, Van is in la la land. . The estate for intents and purposes now / will soon belong to P’s siblings. Ownership of assets (including cash) will transfer to them who will take ownership with all the rights and privileges of ownership, including who /organizations to donate money to, when and how much. If each individual owner choses to not part with his/her assets - that is no one’s business, least of all Van Jones. . Just because a charity’s mission statement is noble does not mean all the funds are allocated as intended. Maybe P discovered this, hence no allowance for Van’s charities…. Because Van (to my knowledge) is the only one advocating for continued charitable activity, however only with which the charities he, VAN, is involved. Van is even going so far as to insulate that P’s legacy is dependent upon this. The music is the legacy and Van has zero to do with that. . Sorry to be so negative on Van, but IMO something is either very very wrong or much more transparency must come to light. . Peace and respect to all.
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I'm beginning to understand why Prince might not leave a will. Who can you just trust? Everybody looks suspect about something. | |
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I am surprised there aren't people pushing to give his last girlfriends money, since he apparently used the same line - that he would take care of them forever - on a repeat basis. The dough goes to the non-excluded heirs. Prince once said at an awards show that those truly there for you are not on your payroll. Well, it seems everyone was on his payroll, except for his peers, and everyone wants to protect his or her interests. | |
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I believe I read somewhere that several of Prince's siblings live in properties he owns.. Are they also for sale?
And Van to me, seems genuine..Perhaps he could work alongside several professionals to help ensure no " funny" business transpires? Does anyone know how close Prince was to his half siblings? [Edited 1/17/17 14:41pm] Until the end of time | |
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that maybe true but genuine won't cut it in this situation. he seems underqualified for the position. jmo.
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prince was not close to his older half sibs. he and tyka and omarr had gotten closer since their mom died. tyka and omarr are the sibs that live in prince owned porperties. a bene placito | |
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http://www.billboard.com/articles/business/7655360/prince-estate-tax-bill-deadline
New article about that tax bill. | |
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PRINCE_ESTATE_THINGS_TO_KNOW?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
The Associated Press is also reporting on the estate taxes, the first payment of which is due Saturday. | |
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With him didn't have a will, I am still suprise he didnt leave his congregation with anything. I know Vanity left majority of her fortune to her church. | |
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iciala397 said:
that maybe true but genuine won't cut it in this situation. he seems underqualified for the position. jmo.
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prince was not close to his older half sibs. he and tyka and omarr had gotten closer since their mom died. tyka and omarr are the sibs that live in prince owned porperties. Ty Until the end of time | |
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iciala397 said:
that maybe true but genuine won't cut it in this situation. he seems underqualified for the position. jmo.
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prince was not close to his older half sibs. he and tyka and omarr had gotten closer since their mom died. tyka and omarr are the sibs that live in prince owned porperties. -/Omarr said the LA memorial that Prince was like his dad and others who worked for Prince said Omarr was enamored with Prince. Reading the court documents Omarr and Tyka sound like they are decent. | |
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OMG!!! Then u must be a trumper? point being it shouldn't matter It doesn't much matter who we like or dont like its not about us fans on a forum...Its about things needing to get done as was said a 1000 times A will was not left so major decisions have to be made.If someone's willing to work for free why dog him. | |
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Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end | |
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The Judge has just signed an Order that there will be a hearing held on February 18, 2017 regarding the Petition of Phaedra... I dont think we ever saw the Petition filed by Phaedra. The Judge has Ordered the Special Administrator to provide documents within 5 days to Phaedra which effectively removed her as an officer, secretary, or manager of NPG Music Publishing, and other companies. This is interesting.
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