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Reply #1290 posted 03/06/17 12:07pm

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Lovejunky said:



justAmeda said:




1Sasha said:


It must be me. After nearly a year of this, I am just tired of the whole estate/who gets what/who cares for what/ drama. I don't think we'll ever know the "real" reason and facts behind why we are in this situation - and I have given up wanting to know. Just put out the records, put out the DVDs, put a Prince channel up online (I'll pay) and let us at it. License out his music to movies, TV and commercials - really the best way to get it in front of new ears. Try to get Kendrick Lamar or the Weeknd to sample Prince music into their records ... Just get it going.



Nope! I refuse to put any money in his estate or the hands of his family! He's gone and that is who an where I would want my money to go to. Since he's not here to benefit from it, I will stick to getting my music and stuff "underground" I for sure am not going to put any money in the hands of the big labels like UMG. I will gladly pay to go see certain musicians he worked with or buy their music because they are still here and can benefit from it, but unless I know exactly where my money is going to, who it's going to, and why then I will not put any money into anything just because Prince's name is behind it.



I actually GET where you are coming from JustAmeda...



Prince made sure he was paid while he was here,


His family will benefit more than enough from what he left behind....



WHy do we have to make others rich from work that Prince did for US ?


If the estate makes no money the family will have to sell everything then you will Nikki Minja remaking WDC.
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Reply #1291 posted 03/06/17 12:40pm

justAmeda

laurarichardson said:

Lovejunky said:

I actually GET where you are coming from JustAmeda...

Prince made sure he was paid while he was here,

His family will benefit more than enough from what he left behind....

WHy do we have to make others rich from work that Prince did for US ?

If the estate makes no money the family will have to sell everything then you will Nikki Minja remaking WDC.

So I"m suppose to throw my money at complete strangers who had no input on the making of his music and probably are not musicians either just because its "his estate"? I suspect all parties involve are going to ruin all he worked for any way...I say it's a matter of time before others are remaking his music.

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Reply #1292 posted 03/06/17 1:24pm

rogifan

justAmeda said:



1Sasha said:


It must be me. After nearly a year of this, I am just tired of the whole estate/who gets what/who cares for what/ drama. I don't think we'll ever know the "real" reason and facts behind why we are in this situation - and I have given up wanting to know. Just put out the records, put out the DVDs, put a Prince channel up online (I'll pay) and let us at it. License out his music to movies, TV and commercials - really the best way to get it in front of new ears. Try to get Kendrick Lamar or the Weeknd to sample Prince music into their records ... Just get it going.



Nope! I refuse to put any money in his estate or the hands of his family! He's gone and that is who an where I would want my money to go to. Since he's not here to benefit from it, I will stick to getting my music and stuff "underground" I for sure am not going to put any money in the hands of the big labels like UMG. I will gladly pay to go see certain musicians he worked with or buy their music because they are still here and can benefit from it, but unless I know exactly where my money is going to, who it's going to, and why then I will not put any money into anything just because Prince's name is behind it.


Then say goodbye to Paisley Park.
Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #1293 posted 03/06/17 1:26pm

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justAmeda said:



laurarichardson said:


Lovejunky said:


I actually GET where you are coming from JustAmeda...



Prince made sure he was paid while he was here,


His family will benefit more than enough from what he left behind....



WHy do we have to make others rich from work that Prince did for US ?



If the estate makes no money the family will have to sell everything then you will Nikki Minja remaking WDC.

So I"m suppose to throw my money at complete strangers who had no input on the making of his music and probably are not musicians either just because its "his estate"? I suspect all parties involve are going to ruin all he worked for any way...I say it's a matter of time before others are remaking his music.


-- You buy stuff everyday that you have no idea who the money ends up with unless you know all of the shareholders from every vendor you buy from. I hope you buy stuff because you like and want to own it. I want buy vault material and could careless about looking at something on YOUTUBE all day.
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Reply #1294 posted 03/06/17 1:32pm

rogifan

laurarichardson said:

petalthecat said:

If there's no proof free stuff drives sales then why has every musical artist in the last 60 years made promotional videos? Every artist from the 80s onwards scrambled to get their videos on MTVs playlist? Musicians don't earn money off singles, they're purely to promote album sales. People need to have access to some free Prince content for promotion. I believe the main reason P was so adamant about keeping clips off YouTube was because he didn't want inferior quality footage on there, I don't think it was ever about losing money. So if the estate is hell bent on removing every fan clip etc. they should make sure everyone has access to "something", anything, official for free. A few music videos, maybe one or two live concerts. It would 100% raise sales. Speculate to accumulate!

--Do you really think videos you look at maybe 3 times a day on MTV is the same as millions of people viewing and being able to download the clip. I mean really think about that for a minute and wait and see when cable subscriptions are free or Hulu or Netfilx.

Millions of people are not viewing these clips. These Prince Facebook groups have maybe 1-2K members tops. Most of the clips I have saved on YouTube have like 10K views tops. The two Prince clips that had millions of views on YouTube were the RRHOF and Super Bowl performances.
Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #1295 posted 03/06/17 2:11pm

PurpleDiamonds
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nelcp777 said:

Omar has served Londell with a subpoena.


This maybe the reason for the added Attny...
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Reply #1296 posted 03/06/17 2:20pm

1Sasha

I have to download that clip of "The One." OMG

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Reply #1297 posted 03/06/17 2:54pm

rogifan

What do we know about Omarr? How trustworthy is he? All I know is he appears to be good friends with M2.
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Reply #1298 posted 03/06/17 3:23pm

PurpleDiamonds
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We don't know how trustworthy Omar or any of Princes family members are...we know nothing about any of them ... I would guess Prince was distant for a reason.
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Reply #1299 posted 03/06/17 3:52pm

rap

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

We don't know how trustworthy Omar or any of Princes family members are...we know nothing about any of them ... I would guess Prince was distant for a reason.

Exactly! They come off as greedy. Do you really believe that if Prince were alive, people would even know who they are?

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Reply #1300 posted 03/06/17 4:03pm

Misslink88

Maybe it's a generational thing, but blood is thicker than water. Your family is your family = love 'em, or hate 'em, they're there. Only they really know what they've been dealing with and proceeding as best they can in the situation. P left it up in the air and they have to figure it all out, and like most families, it's not a clear course. Unlike some others, his family has no choice - they have to take care of his legacy, be in the media, move forward, etc. And they are greiving a brother.

Can people cut them some slack, please?

God is my Sugar Daddy.
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Reply #1301 posted 03/06/17 4:21pm

PurpleDiamonds
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rap said:



PurpleDiamonds1 said:


We don't know how trustworthy Omar or any of Princes family members are...we know nothing about any of them ... I would guess Prince was distant for a reason.



Exactly! They come off as greedy. Do you really believe that if Prince were alive, people would even know who they are?


Doubt we would know who any of them are if he was still here.
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Reply #1302 posted 03/06/17 5:01pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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Misslink88 said:

Maybe it's a generational thing, but blood is thicker than water. Your family is your family = love 'em, or hate 'em, they're there. Only they really know what they've been dealing with and proceeding as best they can in the situation. P left it up in the air and they have to figure it all out, and like most families, it's not a clear course. Unlike some others, his family has no choice - they have to take care of his legacy, be in the media, move forward, etc. And they are greiving a brother.

Can people cut them some slack, please?

yeahthat

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Reply #1303 posted 03/06/17 5:14pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

nelcp777 said:

Omar has served Londell with a subpoena.

This maybe the reason for the added Attny...

I saw that subpoena neclp777.

I just realized the new attorney for Omarr and Tyka is from the same

law firm that issued the subpoena, Cozen O'Connor, which has been

representing Tyka and Omarr for awhile now.

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Reply #1304 posted 03/06/17 5:22pm

PurpleDiamonds
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



PurpleDiamonds1 said:


nelcp777 said:

Omar has served Londell with a subpoena.



This maybe the reason for the added Attny...

I saw that subpoena neclp777.


I just realized the new attorney for Omarr and Tyka is from the same


law firm that issued the subpoena, Cozen O'Connor, which has been


representing Tyka and Omarr for awhile now.


Are they going after Londell for the money from the tribute concert? Or is there more?
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Reply #1305 posted 03/06/17 6:07pm

petalthecat

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laurarichardson said:

petalthecat said:

If there's no proof free stuff drives sales then why has every musical artist in the last 60 years made promotional videos? Every artist from the 80s onwards scrambled to get their videos on MTVs playlist? Musicians don't earn money off singles, they're purely to promote album sales. People need to have access to some free Prince content for promotion. I believe the main reason P was so adamant about keeping clips off YouTube was because he didn't want inferior quality footage on there, I don't think it was ever about losing money. So if the estate is hell bent on removing every fan clip etc. they should make sure everyone has access to "something", anything, official for free. A few music videos, maybe one or two live concerts. It would 100% raise sales. Speculate to accumulate!

--Do you really think videos you look at maybe 3 times a day on MTV is the same as millions of people viewing and being able to download the clip. I mean really think about that for a minute and wait and see when cable subscriptions are free or Hulu or Netfilx.

Would u go and see a movie if u hadn't seen the trailer and had no clue what it was about? So what if millions could download a video for nothing, what would they do with it? Enjoy it? Share it to a wider audience? And maybe 10% of them would go buy an album to hear more.
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Reply #1306 posted 03/06/17 6:36pm

laurarichardso
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rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:


--Do you really think videos you look at maybe 3 times a day on MTV is the same as millions of people viewing and being able to download the clip. I mean really think about that for a minute and wait and see when cable subscriptions are free or Hulu or Netfilx.

Millions of people are not viewing these clips. These Prince Facebook groups have maybe 1-2K members tops. Most of the clips I have saved on YouTube have like 10K views tops. The two Prince clips that had millions of views on YouTube were the RRHOF and Super Bowl performances.

--You realize people can download and share the clips? Anyway the law is the law and it is not going to change.
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Reply #1307 posted 03/06/17 6:50pm

PurpleDiamonds
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petalthecat said:

laurarichardson said:


--Do you really think videos you look at maybe 3 times a day on MTV is the same as millions of people viewing and being able to download the clip. I mean really think about that for a minute and wait and see when cable subscriptions are free or Hulu or Netfilx.

Would u go and see a movie if u hadn't seen the trailer and had no clue what it was about? So what if millions could download a video for nothing, what would they do with it? Enjoy it? Share it to a wider audience? And maybe 10% of them would go buy an album to hear more.

That is a good point...and so true
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Reply #1308 posted 03/06/17 7:14pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I saw that subpoena neclp777.

I just realized the new attorney for Omarr and Tyka is from the same

law firm that issued the subpoena, Cozen O'Connor, which has been

representing Tyka and Omarr for awhile now.

Are they going after Londell for the money from the tribute concert? Or is there more?

I think it has to do with the Tribute Concert, and the after show hosted by Londell.

The Court approved redacting and/or sealing all documents relating to both.

It could also be a move to have Londell removed from being an advisor to the other

siblings because it appears there was a conflict of interest when he was a Entertainment

Consultant for the Estate, and also giving personal business advice to the other siblings.

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Reply #1309 posted 03/06/17 7:18pm

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

We don't know how trustworthy Omar or any of Princes family members are...we know nothing about any of them ... I would guess Prince was distant for a reason.

--Tyka worked for Prince and was at the last party. Omarr was at the L.A Memorial and said Prince taught him how to ride a bike, drive, play basketball, and was like a father to him. Did you see his red rimmed eyes in the memorial video. The things Tyka and Omarr accused Londell of her very serious and they are showing some integrity. If Londell is innocent he will get his day in court.
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Reply #1310 posted 03/06/17 7:20pm

laurarichardso
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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

petalthecat said:


Would u go and see a movie if u hadn't seen the trailer and had no clue what it was about? So what if millions could download a video for nothing, what would they do with it? Enjoy it? Share it to a wider audience? And maybe 10% of them would go buy an album to hear more.

That is a good point...and so true

I would the review on Rotten Tomatos and the wider audience is not paying for anything. In the end this is exactly what Prince wanted.
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Reply #1311 posted 03/06/17 7:45pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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laurarichardson said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:
We don't know how trustworthy Omar or any of Princes family members are...we know nothing about any of them ... I would guess Prince was distant for a reason.
--Tyka worked for Prince and was at the last party. Omarr was at the L.A Memorial and said Prince taught him how to ride a bike, drive, play basketball, and was like a father to him. Did you see his red rimmed eyes in the memorial video. The things Tyka and Omarr accused Londell of her very serious and they are showing some integrity. If Londell is innocent he will get his day in court.

I know for sure Tyka went to Baltimore with P.

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Reply #1312 posted 03/06/17 7:48pm

udo

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laurarichardson said:

--Do you really think videos you look at maybe 3 times a day on MTV is the same as millions of people viewing and being able to download the clip.

,

Ever experienced VHS? cool

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #1313 posted 03/06/17 8:18pm

rap

laurarichardson said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:
We don't know how trustworthy Omar or any of Princes family members are...we know nothing about any of them ... I would guess Prince was distant for a reason.
--Tyka worked for Prince and was at the last party. Omarr was at the L.A Memorial and said Prince taught him how to ride a bike, drive, play basketball, and was like a father to him. Did you see his red rimmed eyes in the memorial video. The things Tyka and Omarr accused Londell of her very serious and they are showing some integrity. If Londell is innocent he will get his day in court.

Okay. I didn't know that but, some come off as, well vultures. It's just messy, all this legal wrangling. I managed to get Ian Halperin's email address and messaged him twice - no answer. I doubt there is a will.

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Reply #1314 posted 03/06/17 8:18pm

rogifan

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:


Millions of people are not viewing these clips. These Prince Facebook groups have maybe 1-2K members tops. Most of the clips I have saved on YouTube have like 10K views tops. The two Prince clips that had millions of views on YouTube were the RRHOF and Super Bowl performances.

--You realize people can download and share the clips? Anyway the law is the law and it is not going to change.

Yeah and? They're not sharing things the Estate would otherwise be making money off of. Put this stuff on sale and people won't need to go looking for it on YouTube or social media.
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Reply #1315 posted 03/06/17 8:55pm

PurpleDiamonds
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laurarichardson said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

We don't know how trustworthy Omar or any of Princes family members are...we know nothing about any of them ... I would guess Prince was distant for a reason.

--Tyka worked for Prince and was at the last party. Omarr was at the L.A Memorial and said Prince taught him how to ride a bike, drive, play basketball, and was like a father to him. Did you see his red rimmed eyes in the memorial video. The things Tyka and Omarr accused Londell of her very serious and they are showing some integrity. If Londell is innocent he will get his day in court.

It sure seems Londell over stepped his boundaries and has acted out childishly on social media.
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Reply #1316 posted 03/06/17 9:33pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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I hope everyone understands that a regular JoeBlow Estate takes at least one year,

if not 18+ months to process.

P has a complicated Estate so it will take mucho longer.

I think P's Estate is proceeding on course.

.....Other than this Jeffers Slayer Rule Petition.

I am confused as to why the Judge is even entertaining her claim. Her claim should be sent to the Sheriff's Department for investigation.

Amen.

JMJ

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Reply #1317 posted 03/07/17 12:36am

Lovejunky

laurarichardson said:

Lovejunky said:

I actually GET where you are coming from JustAmeda...

Prince made sure he was paid while he was here,

His family will benefit more than enough from what he left behind....

WHy do we have to make others rich from work that Prince did for US ?

If the estate makes no money the family will have to sell everything then you will Nikki Minja remaking WDC.

The Estate is NEVER going to make NO MONEY.....

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Reply #1318 posted 03/07/17 1:31am

laurarichardso
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Lovejunky said:



laurarichardson said:


Lovejunky said:


I actually GET where you are coming from JustAmeda...



Prince made sure he was paid while he was here,


His family will benefit more than enough from what he left behind....



WHy do we have to make others rich from work that Prince did for US ?



If the estate makes no money the family will have to sell everything then you will Nikki Minja remaking WDC.

The Estate is NEVER going to make NO MONEY.....


--They are making money from the sales of music. He had millions of streams and prior to streaming he sold a fair amount of music right after his death. The money is in licensing out the music and getting the vault and live material. If things are done right the estate will make money.
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Reply #1319 posted 03/07/17 2:29am

Lovejunky

laurarichardson said:

Lovejunky said:

The Estate is NEVER going to make NO MONEY.....

--They are making money from the sales of music. He had millions of streams and prior to streaming he sold a fair amount of music right after his death. The money is in licensing out the music and getting the vault and live material. If things are done right the estate will make money.

Yes Laura...I know

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