laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

//No we don't know and if agreements are sealed all parties want things quite. I remember some craziness about some women named Willow years ago but it sounded crazy.

/// Crazy Willow story http://prince.org/msg/5/1...?&pg=7

OMG,Laura....you calling her "Fern" or "Tree" or something...and her name was "Willow"....I almost just peed my pants!

THEN, in the next post (in typical Laura fashion) you put ""Fern" or "Willow", whatever...what the hell was this about?"

you're one of a kind Laura! Thanks for the laugh today

[Edited 2/16/17 13:19pm]

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

//No we don't know and if agreements are sealed all parties want things quite. I remember some craziness about some women named Willow years ago but it sounded crazy.

/// Crazy Willow story http://prince.org/msg/5/1...?&pg=7

OMG Laura you sent me down the rabbit hole with this thread.

rogifan said:

Do we know for sure that it is a child he fathered?

Huh? Would it be an alien that he fathered???

PennyPurple said:

rogifan said:

Do we know for sure that it is a child he fathered?

Huh? Would it be an alien that he fathered???

precioux said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said: /// Crazy Willow story http://prince.org/msg/5/1...?&pg=7

OMG Laura you sent me down the rabbit hole with this thread.

I've got three org thread tabs open, going back and forth. My browser is a mess now!!

vuvuzela said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

OMG Laura you sent me down the rabbit hole with this thread.

I've got three org thread tabs open, going back and forth. My browser is a mess now!!

Me too Vuv.

And I have to go work out so I wont be able to finish until later.

Aaaghhhh

PennyPurple said:

precioux said:

precioux said:

rogifan said:

PennyPurple said:

Huh? Would it be an alien that he fathered???

ha, that's not what I meant. Obviously didn't come out right.

laytonian said:

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

Wasn't there a rumor going around that Prince had made financial arrangements for a child but at this date neither the mother nor the now grown child wanted any publicity?

In more recents DNA news. Crazy ass from New Zeeland flunked her test. Stupid ass Breamer for allowing her to even take one in the first.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/89392345/prince-dna-test-comes-back-negative

-Just shows you how stupid the Breamer people were for even allowing this. This was only reported on in the New Zeland news as American news papers never follow up on this types of stories

Prince not Invercargill man's father, negative DNA test reveals

Lester Cohen

Singer Prince is not the father of an Invercagill man whose mother submitted his DNA for testing.

The DNA test for an Invercargill man whose mother claimed late musician Pri...his father has come back negative.

A test conducted by the DNA Diagnostics Center in Ohio, USA, says there was a zero per cent possibility that Prince was the father of Max Stacey McCormack.

The DNA samples were sent to the US at the end of December 2016, with the results coming back in early January.

John Hawkins

Caren McCormack said the inquiry into the paternity of her son had been an "exhausting" process.

The test was verified by the DDC's laboratory director, Michael Baird, who was formerly the court-appointed expert in the paternity case involving the daughter of Anna Nicole Smith in 2007.

READ MORE:
* Invercargill mother forge...n's father
* Prince paternity saga rolls on

Caren McCormack had previously stated her 40-year-old son was fathered in 1976 by the American singer, and the singer had lived with her for a period of months in Christchurch when both were 17 years old.

Invercargill.

Born in 1976 in Christchurch, Stacey McCormack had been raised and lived most of his life in Invercargill.

Stacey has suffered from problems with mental illness throughout his life, and was still living with and being looked after to a degree by his mother.

Caren said her son had only met the man she believed to be his father once, when he was ten days old.

Although she said she had not seen Prince since 1977, for several years he had remained in contact by mail when he was in the United States, she said.

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Caren said while she still stood by her claim, she would not be appealing the decision.

"I don't think an appeal would be worth it, it's just going to be more costly.

"It's cost me $5000 so far just for the lawyer's fees, not including the DNA test costs.

"It's a bit deflating really, but we don't want to get in a fight about it.

"Life is all right as it is, so we'll just let it drop."

She said her son was coping well with the results.

"Stacey is as good as gold – nothing really fazes him that much."

While the test had stated otherwise, Caren maintained her side of the story was the truth.

"I know it sounds like sour grapes, but nothing has changed in my mind.

"You can't live with someone for five months without knowing something about them."

She said while she admits there was the possibility it was a case of mistaken identity, the appearance and mannerisms of the man she met in 1976 still have her convinced.

"I could have made a mistake and maybe I'm totally off base, but as far as I'm convinced it's still the truth.

"It was never about money or publicity, it was about finding the truth.

"If I have made a mistake and Stacey's father was still out there, I would want to make contact with him."

- Stuff

Anyone who claims to be a child of Prince, without any other exclusionary circumstances, will get a DNA test. All that is required is for their mother to sign an affidavit saying that she slept with Prince within a certain time frame before the child's birth.

Can someone delete these photos of this woman?

Seriously, its difficult to scroll and see the photo.

I've been reading a thread from 2005 for hours

and my eyes are bleeding.

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:

precioux said: /-Love child can take a settlement or love child could have been taken care of by a trust fund long ago. Just as hugh sums of cash could have been placed in a trust years ago.

So, if there is a positive DNA match, there is an option to settle out of court (?) and it doesn't automatically void Tyka and the reast as heirs?

Who would accept a settlement when they could get the whole pie?

tmo1965 said:

precioux said:

So, if there is a positive DNA match, there is an option to settle out of court (?) and it doesn't automatically void Tyka and the reast as heirs?

Who would accept a settlement when they could get the whole pie?

Someone that doesnt want their life to be turned upside down.

Someone that doesnt want their every waking moment to be documented by the paps.

Someone that is not interested in millions and instead would take a smaller amount

just to get away from the scrutiny.

Bruno was burned at the stake for doing one Tribute song at the

Grammy's, and the debate is still going on days after the performance because Bruno wasnt good enough for P's fans, and could not meet their expectations.

Can you imagine what would happen to a regular person never in the bright lights

being named "The Heir" and would never be good enough for P's fans?

Yep, I would head for the hills too with just enough money to live comfortably.

tmo1965 said:

Since the discussion involves pages of information, is it possible for someone to Orgnote me a copy of the real estate holdings? I know it initially came out at the beginning of the case, but it's really labourious to find and I'm sure some Orger has a complete copy. Thanks in advance.

Misslink88 said:

Thank you. I'll save a copy this time

laurarichardson said:

Misslink88 said:

Since the discussion involves pages of information, is it possible for someone to Orgnote me a copy of the real estate holdings? I know it initially came out at the beginning of the case, but it's really labourious to find and I'm sure some Orger has a complete copy. Thanks in advance.

--The information has been redacted but I have a copy and will see if I can put it up so we can all be on the same page. I also think the court will deal any future inventory list.

jaypotton said:

SNIPPED MYSELF
[Edited 2/18/17 3:44am]

So....... as some of you who follow the org (or Londell) on Twitter already know - I had a meeting with Londell in Beverly Hills on Friday night, on behalf of the org and the fan community as a whole.

There were several questions that I put to him and I'm pleased to say he was very honest and upfront with me about how things are playing out from his perspective.

I made it very clear that the most important thing we need as a fan community is consistent dialog and interaction. He understands that and has a great deal of respect for the org, and our independence. I made it clear that if there's no dialog, then that's where untruths, speculation and misinformation comes from, and so we are working on ways to make that happen in better ways.

To be clear, what's happening right now is that Londell is representing 4 of the 6 heirs. My understanding from speaking with Londell (and others) is that the heirs largely feel that they want be in control of a lot of decisions as and when appropriate, but also understand (to some degree) that they lack the experience. Which of course is where Londell, Charles, and others come in. There are also several conversations being had about other advisors - namely, people who were close to Prince for a long time like certain bandmembers, engineers, etc. That's an ongoing process.

I made it clear to Londell that there's concern about short-term thinking amongst the heirs and the administrators, and that it's very important that all decisions are made with the thinking of what we want Prince's legacy to look like in 50 years, and 100 years - not just 5 or 10. He agreed, but one thing that is a major issue right now is making sure this large tax bill get paid. Prince's assets would be getting seized if that bill didn't get paid, so he has made sure that happens. There are people who will criticize and feel this or that should have been done differently - that's always gonna happen. But arguing doesn't get that bill paid - making the deals does.

But the main thing, really, is the transparency and ensuring releases are done properly. I explained that vague press releases ain't gonna cut it. I explained that if this Purple Rain Deluxe thing isn't done properly, all trust from the fanbase is lost. It has to be right. We have to be on the same page, and whilst you can't please everybody - as long as we're all trying to do right by Prince, then there's no reason we can't make this work and no reason we can't get future generations to understand what we know - that Prince's catalog is the greatest catalog in pop music.

Militant said:

So....... as some of you who follow the org (or Londell) on Twitter already know - I had a meeting with Londell in Beverly Hills on Friday night, on behalf of the org and the fan community as a whole.

There were several questions that I put to him and I'm pleased to say he was very honest and upfront with me about how things are playing out from his perspective.

I made it very clear that the most important thing we need as a fan community is consistent dialog and interaction. He understands that and has a great deal of respect for the org, and our independence. I made it clear that if there's no dialog, then that's where untruths, speculation and misinformation comes from, and so we are working on ways to make that happen in better ways.

To be clear, what's happening right now is that Londell is representing 4 of the 6 heirs. My understanding from speaking with Londell (and others) is that the heirs largely feel that they want be in control of a lot of decisions as and when appropriate, but also understand (to some degree) that they lack the experience. Which of course is where Londell, Charles, and others come in. There are also several conversations being had about other advisors - namely, people who were close to Prince for a long time like certain bandmembers, engineers, etc. That's an ongoing process.

I made it clear to Londell that there's concern about short-term thinking amongst the heirs and the administrators, and that it's very important that all decisions are made with the thinking of what we want Prince's legacy to look like in 50 years, and 100 years - not just 5 or 10. He agreed, but one thing that is a major issue right now is making sure this large tax bill get paid. Prince's assets would be getting seized if that bill didn't get paid, so he has made sure that happens. There are people who will criticize and feel this or that should have been done differently - that's always gonna happen. But arguing doesn't get that bill paid - making the deals does.

But the main thing, really, is the transparency and ensuring releases are done properly. I explained that vague press releases ain't gonna cut it. I explained that if this Purple Rain Deluxe thing isn't done properly, all trust from the fanbase is lost. It has to be right. We have to be on the same page, and whilst you can't please everybody - as long as we're all trying to do right by Prince, then there's no reason we can't make this work and no reason we can't get future generations to understand what we know - that Prince's catalog is the greatest catalog in pop music.

Thanks for the info Militant.

From what you are saying Londell will remain involved but not as a expert for the Estate but as attorney/advisor for 4 siblings.

I hope you told him to stop with the vague tweets?

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laytonian said:

precioux said:

So, if there is a positive DNA match, there is an option to settle out of court (?) and it doesn't automatically void Tyka and the reast as heirs?

If the child has been adopted out, it is no longer the birth father's child. If the child is still considered the father's child, it is the heir. I doubt there's a secret love child. P wanted a child so badly that he gave Mayte a crib as a wedding gift. Could he have stayed away from an earlier birth, knowing it was his child?

I understand why the court has to address any paternity claims, but my belief is that Prince did not have any children. First of all, if these women suspected that Prince was their child's father, wouldn't these women have sought a paternity test long ago? Why are they waiting until now? The same goes for men and women who suspect that they are Prince's child: Why wait until after he died?

--

I had never heard about Prince giving Mayte a crib for a wedding gift, but I found an article from the New York Times where he says that he gave her a crib for a wedding gift himself.

-

"On the album, he proposes marriage in "The Holy River," a rolling midtempo song akin to Bruce Springsteen's quieter side. Later, a sparse, tender piano ballad begs, "Let's Have a Baby". Asked about that song, he talks about the couple's wedding night. "I carried her across the threshold and gave her many presents," he says. "The last one was a crib. And we both cried. She got down on her knees in that gown, and I did next to her, and we thanked God that we could be alive for this moment."

Well said, Militant!

Militant said:

So....... as some of you who follow the org (or Londell) on Twitter already know - I had a meeting with Londell in Beverly Hills on Friday night, on behalf of the org and the fan community as a whole.

There were several questions that I put to him and I'm pleased to say he was very honest and upfront with me about how things are playing out from his perspective.

I made it very clear that the most important thing we need as a fan community is consistent dialog and interaction. He understands that and has a great deal of respect for the org, and our independence. I made it clear that if there's no dialog, then that's where untruths, speculation and misinformation comes from, and so we are working on ways to make that happen in better ways.

To be clear, what's happening right now is that Londell is representing 4 of the 6 heirs. My understanding from speaking with Londell (and others) is that the heirs largely feel that they want be in control of a lot of decisions as and when appropriate, but also understand (to some degree) that they lack the experience. Which of course is where Londell, Charles, and others come in. There are also several conversations being had about other advisors - namely, people who were close to Prince for a long time like certain bandmembers, engineers, etc. That's an ongoing process.

I made it clear to Londell that there's concern about short-term thinking amongst the heirs and the administrators, and that it's very important that all decisions are made with the thinking of what we want Prince's legacy to look like in 50 years, and 100 years - not just 5 or 10. He agreed, but one thing that is a major issue right now is making sure this large tax bill get paid. Prince's assets would be getting seized if that bill didn't get paid, so he has made sure that happens. There are people who will criticize and feel this or that should have been done differently - that's always gonna happen. But arguing doesn't get that bill paid - making the deals does.

But the main thing, really, is the transparency and ensuring releases are done properly. I explained that vague press releases ain't gonna cut it. I explained that if this Purple Rain Deluxe thing isn't done properly, all trust from the fanbase is lost. It has to be right. We have to be on the same page, and whilst you can't please everybody - as long as we're all trying to do right by Prince, then there's no reason we can't make this work and no reason we can't get future generations to understand what we know - that Prince's catalog is the greatest catalog in pop music.

206Michelle said:

Militant said:

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

Let the Prince had a secret child rumors begin. Sigh.

2 people took test that the results were not made known to the public. We know this for sure and we know all results are being sealed. These are facts.

Laura, could you please give the titles and dates for these results that have been sealed?