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Reply #990 posted 02/13/17 2:16pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



jtfolden said:




rogifan said:



How did Hit N Run Phase 2 end up on Apple Music srteaming service? Prince must have approved that, yes?


I knew Phase 2 was on iTunes but was it available via Apple Music as well, and if so was it available on AM from day one? I know one of the submissions to the court mentioned so many days of exclusivity but can't recall the length or if it was only for Phase 1.



Tidal's Petition for Temporary Restraining Order stated P delivered to them one


previously unreleased album but did not deliver the second album before his passing.


Tidal keeps stating in their documents their streaming rights are based upon


"numerous written and oral agreements and a substantial course of dealing" between


Tidal and P, and his entities.


Apparently, they gave P $3 mil in total installment payments.


Remember Bremer claimed that the 1 $780k payment was missing back when the did know much about the deal. 4 payments is about 3 million. No way would any company give 3 million to anyone without something in writing. No way would Prince had given permission for songs to go Tidal without money in hand. The estate managers did not do their due dilegence. Now I wonder what account the money went too and why was the contract between Prince and Tidal and not NPG Music LLC. What was he up to?
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Reply #991 posted 02/13/17 2:26pm

1Sasha

Did any one person know - besides Prince - what Prince was doing? He had to have an accounting firm - he had to have at least one attorney ... When I pay my state sales tax every month, I have to declare whether the money came from an account within or outside of the United States. Unless it has to do with the Turks & Caicos place ... That hasn't been sold yet, has it? It is gorgeous, and one would think it would sell quickly. What a mess, even now.

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Reply #992 posted 02/13/17 2:37pm

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1Sasha said:

Did any one person know - besides Prince - what Prince was doing? He had to have an accounting firm - he had to have at least one attorney ... When I pay my state sales tax every month, I have to declare whether the money came from an account within or outside of the United States. Unless it has to do with the Turks & Caicos place ... That hasn't been sold yet, has it? It is gorgeous, and one would think it would sell quickly. What a mess, even now.


He had bank accounts with Breamer but I believe he had other accounts possibly in the carribean or even Swiss. These areas have shady banks. I know that the estate must have the information by this time because this is one of the money is one of the things Tidal would have to provide proof of payment. I also notice that Tidal is concerned about the IRS viewing the Equity Term Agteemnet. Why would they be worried about that? Also notice that the Mixed Blood Theater was had paid 25k to rent Paisley Park and the stupid Breamer bank found an alternative location and then withdrew the offer now the theater is suing for 50k. Now I think we can see who really made a financial disarray. The bank caused a lawsuit from Make a Wish foundation, Mixed Blood and Tidal.
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Reply #993 posted 02/13/17 2:48pm

morningsong

The parties to this argument have already agreed that Comerica Bank & Trust, the Estate’s entertainment experts (Messers. McMillian and Koppelman), and the accountants and appraisers working for the Estate that need to know about the Artist Equity Sheet may View it upon signing a confidentiality form.

The dispute seems to rest on whether counsel for Comerica Bank & Trust may disclose the Artist Equity Sheet to the Non-Excluded Heirs or agents of the Internal Revenue Service or the Department of Revenue.

The Court will address whether the Non-Excluded Heirs may View the Artist Equity Sheet at this time. The Court will not address at this time whether tax agents may view the Artist Equity Sheet as the Court is not aware of whether this will ultimately be necessary.

The Court will address that issue if, and when, it become relevant. The Court has spent a great deal of effort determining who the heirs to this Estate are.

While a currently unidentified person could still step forward with a claim to be an heir, and there are one or more appeals currently pending regarding heirship, the Court is quite confident that the six sibling or half siblings of the Decedent identified in the original Petition for Appointment of the Special Administrator are the heirs to this Estate.

They will be referred to for the purpose of this Order as the Non-Excluded Heirs. They are all capable, have been involved in the negotiation of entertainment deals during the Decedent’s life time or during the administration of this Estate, and are represented by capable counsel.

The Court is not aware that any of the Non—Excluded Heirs have leaked confidential information regarding the Estate to other individuals or to the media.

These heirs should properly be consulted by the Personal Representative before resolving any claim being prosecuted by Roc Nation and before negotiating any other entertainment deals that could conflict with the terms of any contractual rights currently possessed by Roc Nation.

The Non-Excluded Heirs will need to know the terms of the Artist Equity Sheet.


Hopefully that pasted correctly.

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Reply #994 posted 02/13/17 6:01pm

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rogifan said:

What will people do now that they don't have Londell to kick around? I was never a fan of his cryptic tweets and I do think the tribute concert was poorly handled but he did get much needed deals done for the estate which is more than can be said for anyone else. Let's see how Tyka and Omarr run things now.

At least Londell and Charles have relevant experience. From what I can gather, Prince's 'family' are incompetents!!

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Reply #995 posted 02/13/17 6:38pm

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rap said:



rogifan said:


What will people do now that they don't have Londell to kick around? I was never a fan of his cryptic tweets and I do think the tribute concert was poorly handled but he did get much needed deals done for the estate which is more than can be said for anyone else. Let's see how Tyka and Omarr run things now.


At least Londell and Charles have relevant experience. From what I can gather, Prince's 'family' are incompetents!!


--Prince's family is not running anything. The bank is the admin with court over seeing everything. If they were really incompetent they would not have attorneys they would just sign whatever is placed in front of them. You guys need to think about how many greedy companies would love to get there hands in those master and the publishing.
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Reply #996 posted 02/13/17 7:04pm

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laurarichardson said:

--Prince's family is not running anything. The bank is the admin with court over seeing everything. If they were really incompetent they would not have attorneys they would just sign whatever is placed in front of them. You guys need to think about how many greedy companies would love to get there hands in those master and the publishing.



Thanks for putting that out there Laura. It's ridiculous how people are trashing the family all over the place, both here, Facebook, Twitter, any and all platforms, about the decisions that are being made by the court. So many talking and not knowing what they are talking about.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #997 posted 02/13/17 7:49pm

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laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

Did any one person know - besides Prince - what Prince was doing? He had to have an accounting firm - he had to have at least one attorney ... When I pay my state sales tax every month, I have to declare whether the money came from an account within or outside of the United States. Unless it has to do with the Turks & Caicos place ... That hasn't been sold yet, has it? It is gorgeous, and one would think it would sell quickly. What a mess, even now.


He had bank accounts with Breamer but I believe he had other accounts possibly in the carribean or even Swiss. These areas have shady banks. I know that the estate must have the information by this time because this is one of the money is one of the things Tidal would have to provide proof of payment. I also notice that Tidal is concerned about the IRS viewing the Equity Term Agteemnet. Why would they be worried about that? Also notice that the Mixed Blood Theater was had paid 25k to rent Paisley Park and the stupid Breamer bank found an alternative location and then withdrew the offer now the theater is suing for 50k. Now I think we can see who really made a financial disarray. The bank caused a lawsuit from Make a Wish foundation, Mixed Blood and Tidal.
[Edited 2/13/17 14:39pm]

eek
The bolded above is just beyond words...I really don't understand why they are not renting out some of PP for movies, videos and shows?
Is there a worry about the current tours conflicting with this?
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Reply #998 posted 02/13/17 8:05pm

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:


He had bank accounts with Breamer but I believe he had other accounts possibly in the carribean or even Swiss. These areas have shady banks. I know that the estate must have the information by this time because this is one of the money is one of the things Tidal would have to provide proof of payment. I also notice that Tidal is concerned about the IRS viewing the Equity Term Agteemnet. Why would they be worried about that? Also notice that the Mixed Blood Theater was had paid 25k to rent Paisley Park and the stupid Breamer bank found an alternative location and then withdrew the offer now the theater is suing for 50k. Now I think we can see who really made a financial disarray. The bank caused a lawsuit from Make a Wish foundation, Mixed Blood and Tidal.
[Edited 2/13/17 14:39pm]

eek
The bolded above is just beyond words...I really don't understand why they are not renting out some of PP for movies, videos and shows?
Is there a worry about the current tours conflicting with this?

-I don't know maybe they are bringing in good money running the tours and they said the sold out for the celebration in April but I bet that could make a lot of money renting it out for events and having concerts.
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Reply #999 posted 02/13/17 11:11pm

rap

laurarichardson said:

rap said:

At least Londell and Charles have relevant experience. From what I can gather, Prince's 'family' are incompetents!!

--Prince's family is not running anything. The bank is the admin with court over seeing everything. If they were really incompetent they would not have attorneys they would just sign whatever is placed in front of them. You guys need to think about how many greedy companies would love to get there hands in those master and the publishing.

Greedy? If Prince had left a will and only Tyka was in it, do you really think the others would have been so visible?

Were they around when he was alive??

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Reply #1000 posted 02/14/17 3:26am

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rap said:



laurarichardson said:


rap said:



At least Londell and Charles have relevant experience. From what I can gather, Prince's 'family' are incompetents!!



--Prince's family is not running anything. The bank is the admin with court over seeing everything. If they were really incompetent they would not have attorneys they would just sign whatever is placed in front of them. You guys need to think about how many greedy companies would love to get there hands in those master and the publishing.


Greedy? If Prince had left a will and only Tyka was in it, do you really think the others would have been so visible?



Were they around when he was alive??


-- Alfred has been in a mental institution. John Jr has all his paperwork signed by Norrine, Omarr took care of Prince's mom and lives in her old house, and I believe Sharon is the one he had serious beef with. I think if Prince hated them he would have written a will and they would be getting nothing just like MJ did. I do not think the gate was there and since Prince was the excutor of his Dad's estate so he knew how things worked.
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Reply #1001 posted 02/14/17 1:17pm

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:
Instead of Van keeping Princes legacy alive as the great legend he is, Van has put his face on CNN and yet again on The End tabloid show claiming to be a friend. If he was a friend of Prince why is he smearing his legacy with these shows? If he was looking out for Prince he would not have appeared and he would have flagged this show to not be aired as it was wrong on many levels. JMO..Also think he has guilty tears, actually he did say that himself on yet another show...the night Prince died. I would like to hear from a real friend of Princes but like P himself said he could count them like a peace sign
You make very valid points, but consider this: ole' Vanny Van would not have had sign off on how the show was edited. I saw the same Headline News show you did, but consider the following: Headline News put that garbage out for the sake of advertising dollars, AND (now that we know what we know today) in preparation for Mr. Nelson's music to be serviced to Streaming. Did I find the show fucked up AND one-sided? Yep. Did it change my perception of Skipper? Nope. But: just my three cents. wink

I had to shut that show off. I don't trust Van. He should have known the direction that show was going or don't do it. If they screwed with it, make a statement. "Punk of the month"

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Reply #1002 posted 02/14/17 2:45pm

laytonian

1Sasha said:

Did any one person know - besides Prince - what Prince was doing? He had to have an accounting firm - he had to have at least one attorney ... When I pay my state sales tax every month, I have to declare whether the money came from an account within or outside of the United States. Unless it has to do with the Turks & Caicos place ... That hasn't been sold yet, has it? It is gorgeous, and one would think it would sell quickly. What a mess, even now.


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He had a long-term relationship with Bremer Bank, which had a Wealth Management and Private Banking system.
Bremer likely did his taxes annually, because they also did them for the estate just last month.
https://www.bremer.com/we...g/overview
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Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #1003 posted 02/14/17 4:48pm

morningsong

I don't get it. Why would a death certificate be a financial source?

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Reply #1004 posted 02/14/17 5:24pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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morningsong said:

I don't get it. Why would a death certificate be a financial source?

Huh?

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Reply #1005 posted 02/14/17 9:06pm

rap

laurarichardson said:

rap said:

Greedy? If Prince had left a will and only Tyka was in it, do you really think the others would have been so visible?

Were they around when he was alive??

-- Alfred has been in a mental institution. John Jr has all his paperwork signed by Norrine, Omarr took care of Prince's mom and lives in her old house, and I believe is the one he had serious beef with. I think if Prince hated them he would have written a will and they would be getting nothing just like MJ did. I do not think the gate was there and since Prince was the excutor of his Dad's estate so he knew how things worked.

I've been a Prince fan for a looooog time and (apart from Tyka) they were never really in the picture. It wasn't like the Jackson clan.

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Reply #1006 posted 02/15/17 1:33am

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rap said:



laurarichardson said:


rap said:



Greedy? If Prince had left a will and only Tyka was in it, do you really think the others would have been so visible?



Were they around when he was alive??



-- Alfred has been in a mental institution. John Jr has all his paperwork signed by Norrine, Omarr took care of Prince's mom and lives in her old house, and I believe is the one he had serious beef with. I think if Prince hated them he would have written a will and they would be getting nothing just like MJ did. I do not think the gate was there and since Prince was the excutor of his Dad's estate so he knew how things worked.


I've been a Prince fan for a looooog time and (apart from Tyka) they were never really in the picture. It wasn't like the Jackson clan.


Legally it does not matter they are his sibs and once again at this point they control nothing.
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Reply #1007 posted 02/15/17 3:00am

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morningsong said:

I don't get it. Why would a death certificate be a financial source?


--/I don't get it either but this Venetta women is a nutball. It is obvious she is trying to get out of taking a DNA test but she has no proof but hearsay. Not to mention that Prince looked like his Dad's double. I keep wondering who are the lawyers who fill these people heads with the idea that they have a chance of getting money.
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Reply #1008 posted 02/15/17 4:09am

1Sasha

Sometimes, financial settlements are made to make people, companies, organizations, go away. Or, this is someone seeking 15 minutes of fame - to forever be associated with an icon. For me, I think Prince would have preferred to include certain non-profits and other organizations, as well as some individuals, to share in his fortune after he was gone.

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Reply #1009 posted 02/15/17 4:13am

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1Sasha said:

Sometimes, financial settlements are made to make people, companies, organizations, go away. Or, this is someone seeking 15 minutes of fame - to forever be associated with an icon. For me, I think Prince would have preferred to include certain non-profits and other organizations, as well as some individuals, to share in his fortune after he was gone.

The only settlement I saw was with the Make A Wish Foundation which was caused by Breamer.

I would hope no one is going to give this women money without a DNA test same thing for the Duane spawn. It will open the flood gates for more half sibs to come forward.

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Reply #1010 posted 02/15/17 8:27am

morningsong

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



morningsong said:


I don't get it. Why would a death certificate be a financial source?



Huh?





The confidential financial sources are birth certificates. Its amoung the newest filings.
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Reply #1011 posted 02/15/17 9:38am

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morningsong said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Huh?

The confidential financial sources are birth certificates. Its amoung the newest filings.

I had the same thought. Death certificates do ususally have address listed though, for the decedant and informant. In Ms. Levertte's "Memorandum of Law", she states being concerned about privacy (eh, probably for good reason). I did notice that form about financial sources was not signed, so perhaps it was just submitted in hopes that the Judge would agree to keeping that identifing info from going public. Kinda of a loophole, since it seems since Judge Eide submitted an order to unseal her documents the same day.

Listen to me closely as the story unfolds
This could be the saddest story ever been told....
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Reply #1012 posted 02/15/17 10:25am

morningsong

vuvuzela said:

morningsong said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: The confidential financial sources are birth certificates. Its amoung the newest filings.

I had the same thought. Death certificates do ususally have address listed though, for the decedant and informant. In Ms. Levertte's "Memorandum of Law", she states being concerned about privacy (eh, probably for good reason). I did notice that form about financial sources was not signed, so perhaps it was just submitted in hopes that the Judge would agree to keeping that identifing info from going public. Kinda of a loophole, since it seems since Judge Eide submitted an order to unseal her documents the same day.



Yikes I did mean death certificates. Yeah I guess the address would need to be confidential, maybe.

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Reply #1013 posted 02/15/17 2:57pm

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vuvuzela said:



morningsong said:


ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:


Huh?



The confidential financial sources are birth certificates. Its amoung the newest filings.

I had the same thought. Death certificates do ususally have address listed though, for the decedant and informant. In Ms. Levertte's "Memorandum of Law", she states being concerned about privacy (eh, probably for good reason). I did notice that form about financial sources was not signed, so perhaps it was just submitted in hopes that the Judge would agree to keeping that identifing info from going public. Kinda of a loophole, since it seems since Judge Eide submitted an order to unseal her documents the same day.




All of these people are the same they make ridculous claims and then they worry about their privacy. I would bet a quick internet would turn this crazy women up in five minutes.
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Reply #1014 posted 02/15/17 3:26pm

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The Judge has decided to keep the DNA tests results sealed even though he previously said he would unseal them after a certain period of time.

eek eek eek

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Reply #1015 posted 02/15/17 3:34pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The Judge has decided to keep the DNA tests results sealed even though he previously said he would unseal them after a certain period of time.




eek eek eek


--Weird since has far as we know everyone we know of failed them 😧 People make outages claims and then want to hide.
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Reply #1016 posted 02/15/17 3:38pm

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laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The Judge has decided to keep the DNA tests results sealed even though he previously said he would unseal them after a certain period of time.

eek eek eek

--Weird since has far as we know everyone we know of failed them 😧 People make outages claims and then want to hide.

We dont know all failed.

There are a couple unaccounted for.

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Reply #1017 posted 02/15/17 4:00pm

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In case anyone is curious this is Judge Eide.

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Reply #1018 posted 02/15/17 5:07pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



laurarichardson said:


ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The Judge has decided to keep the DNA tests results sealed even though he previously said he would unseal them after a certain period of time.




eek eek eek



--Weird since has far as we know everyone we know of failed them 😧 People make outages claims and then want to hide.

We dont know all failed.


There are a couple unaccounted for.


-- I thought there was a rumor that two names were given to the judge by Tkya but I thought there was uncertainty about this as we only saw 5 names. So far they have only mentioned the sibs as potential heirs.
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Reply #1019 posted 02/15/17 9:43pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

We dont know all failed.

There are a couple unaccounted for.

-- I thought there was a rumor that two names were given to the judge by Tkya but I thought there was uncertainty about this as we only saw 5 names. So far they have only mentioned the sibs as potential heirs.

Per the Judge's Order there were 7 not including CarlinQ and Williams. (total 9)

The Estate can enter into a settlement with heirs that do not want to be named and have

no interest in the Estate.

Just me stirthepot

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