laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

Where did those payments go in April and May? And howcome the Estate doesn't know about them?

--I think Prince had accounts the Estate knows nothing about. Just the fact that Tidal wants parties to this case to sign NDAs and has concerns about the IRS makes me wonder was Tidal and Prince doing something off the books?

If its off the books, the Estate must self report this to the IRS.

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The Judge said after further "Discovery" is completed between Roc Nation and the Estate

the Court will determine whether the Estate is indebted to Roc Nation for some or all repayment of

album advancements.

After re-reading some of these voluminous filings, it may be P signed the Equity Term Sheet

as P personally and not on behalf of NPG Records, and NPG Music Publishing.

This is hurting my head.

-/The documents are hard to pick thought but yes from reading the docs Prince singed a deal with Tidal and received four payments the last being in November of 2016. Tidal is saying the money was an advance with a portion being able to be recouped through royalties or within 3 years whichever came first. Also there was a promise of two more albums from Prince. Tidal wants the two albums and their money back if the music gets pulled off. I do not see how the court would have let Tidal claim stand if they did not have anything in writing or a proof payment to Prince.

But the new Administrator Comerica is still alleging no signature on the Equity Term Sheet.

Robert3rd said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Robert3rd said:

Some days, I came to this thread, popcorn in hand to read all the silly back and forth and speculations cause it was hilarious. Now with the proliferation of news regarding the relase of PR Deluxe on 6.9.17 we can presume Van was Prince's advocate after his passing, while Londell was trying to make a name for himself, while (possibly and simultaneously) negatively-impacted Prince's legacy.

Van has also negatively impacted Princes legacy. They have all used Prince after his death to further their own agendas.

I respect your viewpoint, but can you quantify your statement? Van's show on CNN is sub-par, however, once Van and P linked up to donate a portion of the proceeds from the W2A tours to charity, it was Kool & The Gang. Also? Van was the most emotional/passionate (post-PRN's passing) about maintaining Prince's legacy for future generations.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Robert3rd said:

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

But the new Administrator Comerica is still alleging no signature on the Equity Term Sheet.

What about the Letter of intent and the money. Tidal was allowed to make a claim and that has to be based on something. I also find it hard to believe that Tidal would have given Prince money without something in writing. I am sure Prince was not giving them material for free. We will see when the court makes a decision on their claim and if the music ever comes off of Tidal.

It appears P signed the Letter of Intent or Phaedra did. It was signed as the two LLC's.

There is a disagreement as to whether the Equity Term Sheet was signed.

I think the issue is whether Tidal has exclusive streaming rights.

The Estate contends the Letter of Intent does not prohibit others from streaming

P's music.

And this is why P's music is streaming everywhere today!

Robert3rd said:

I agree with you. I just don't trust him.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

rogifan said:

rogifan said:

Robert3rd said:

Some days, I came to this thread, popcorn in hand to read all the silly back and forth and speculations cause it was hilarious. Now with the proliferation of news regarding the relase of PR Deluxe on 6.9.17 we can presume Van was Prince's advocate after his passing, while Londell was trying to make a name for himself, while (possibly and simultaneously) negatively-impacted Prince's legacy.

How is making Prince's music available to a wider audience negatively impacting his legacy? And how exactly was Van Prince's advocate other than going on CNN and crying and talking about what a great person he was. What exactly has Van done for the Estate? I'm not saying that as a slam against Van I just don't know what he's done Estate wise, or to maintain Prince's legacy for future generations. Highlighting his charity work isn't going to pay the bills to keep PP open.
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Robert3rd said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Instead of Van keeping Princes legacy alive as the great legend he is, Van has put his face on CNN and yet again on The End tabloid show claiming to be a friend. If he was a friend of Prince why is he smearing his legacy with these shows? If he was looking out for Prince he would not have appeared and he would have flagged this show to not be aired as it was wrong on many levels.
JMO..Also think he has guilty tears, actually he did say that himself on yet another show...the night Prince died.
I would like to hear from a real friend of Princes but like P himself said he could count them like a peace sign

You make very valid points, but consider this: ole' Vanny Van would not have had sign off on how the show was edited. I saw the same Headline News show you did, but consider the following: Headline News put that garbage out for the sake of advertising dollars, AND (now that we know what we know today) in preparation for Mr. Nelson's music to be serviced to Streaming. Did I find the show fucked up AND one-sided? Yep. Did it change my perception of Skipper? Nope. But: just my three cents.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Robert3rd said:

You make very valid points, but consider this: ole' Vanny Van would not have had sign off on how the show was edited. I saw the same Headline News show you did, but consider the following: Headline News put that garbage out for the sake of advertising dollars, AND (now that we know what we know today) in preparation for Mr. Nelson's music to be serviced to Streaming. Did I find the show fucked up AND one-sided? Yep. Did it change my perception of Skipper? Nope. But: just my three cents.

No one that calls themselves a friend and has any respect for Prince should have participated for any of those shows or news organizations speaking of anything other than his music.
Agree and My perception of Prince did not change either but what a shame to have the false news being feed once again for the other folks that haven't followed Prince for long. All perception...JMHO Van has not helped with how non fans will think of Prince.
Edited to add ..i only made it to the Prince riding his bicycle part and have no desire to watch any more.
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Robert3rd said:

rogifan said:

How is making Prince's music available to a wider audience negatively impacting his legacy? And how exactly was Van Prince's advocate other than going on CNN and crying and talking about what a great person he was. What exactly has Van done for the Estate? I'm not saying that as a slam against Van I just don't know what he's done Estate wise, or to maintain Prince's legacy for future generations. Highlighting his charity work isn't going to pay the bills to keep PP open.
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Van wanted to (allegedly) secure Prince's legacy for the ages. As of today? COMPLETE. The Estate had/has reservations about Lonnie Boy.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Robert3rd said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

No one that calls themselves a friend and has any respect for Prince should have participated for any of those shows or news organizations speaking of anything other than his music. Agree and My perception of Prince did not change either but what a shame to have the false news being feed once again for the other folks that haven't followed Prince for long. All perception...JMHO Van has not helped with how non fans will think of Prince. Edited to add ..i only made it to the Prince riding his bicycle part and have no desire to watch any more. [Edited 2/12/17 14:20pm] [Edited 2/12/17 14:23pm]

I respect your views, but consider this: TONIGHT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GONNA FLOOD THE ORG. If not now, then tomorrow. I have received texts from friends who don't know Prince, but they have been streaming today since the news has spread like WILDFIRE across the internet and beyond. Remember: the investigation into his death is still on-going. When the truth comes out. Headline News et. al will have a lot shit to retract!

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Robert3rd said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

No one that calls themselves a friend and has any respect for Prince should have participated for any of those shows or news organizations speaking of anything other than his music. Agree and My perception of Prince did not change either but what a shame to have the false news being feed once again for the other folks that haven't followed Prince for long. All perception...JMHO Van has not helped with how non fans will think of Prince. Edited to add ..i only made it to the Prince riding his bicycle part and have no desire to watch any more. [Edited 2/12/17 14:20pm] [Edited 2/12/17 14:23pm]

I respect your views, but consider this: TONIGHT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GONNA FLOOD THE ORG. If not now, then tomorrow. I have received texts from friends who don't know Prince, but they have been streaming today since the news has spread like WILDFIRE across the internet and beyond. Remember: the investigation into his death is still on-going. When the truth comes out. Headline News et. al will have a lot shit to retract!

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Thought we heard that was happening last week?

According to some people he was staying as a consultant.

Both will be staying on but not as official consultants to the Estate.

Van will be the business advisor to Tyka and Omarr.

Londell is staying on as a business advisor to other family faction.

rogifan said:

How did Hit N Run Phase 2 end up on Apple Music srteaming service? Prince must have approved that, yes?

I knew Phase 2 was on iTunes but was it available via Apple Music as well, and if so was it available on AM from day one? I know one of the submissions to the court mentioned so many days of exclusivity but can't recall the length or if it was only for Phase 1.

jtfolden said:

jtfolden said:

rogifan said:

How did Hit N Run Phase 2 end up on Apple Music srteaming service? Prince must have approved that, yes?

I knew Phase 2 was on iTunes but was it available via Apple Music as well, and if so was it available on AM from day one? I know one of the submissions to the court mentioned so many days of exclusivity but can't recall the length or if it was only for Phase 1.

Tidal's Petition for Temporary Restraining Order stated P delivered to them one

previously unreleased album but did not deliver the second album before his passing.

Tidal keeps stating in their documents their streaming rights are based upon

"numerous written and oral agreements and a substantial course of dealing" between

Tidal and P, and his entities.

Apparently, they gave P $3 mil in total installment payments.

rogifan said: