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Reply #690 posted 02/03/17 7:59pm

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morningsong said:

I'm not understanding what this is saying. Seems that Prince did enter into some kind of agreement with Tidal to stream, but not NPG *** which is owned by the Estate. Then the paragraph below seems to say something different.

The Petition also references an “Artist Equity Term Sheet” and a “Distribution Agreement.” The “Artist Equity Term Sheet” was apparently not disclosed to Bremer until after the parties entered into a “Confidentiality Stipulation” on or about January 3, 2017. The “Artist Equity Term Sheet” is between “Project Panther Ltd., a Cayman Islands Limited Company (“Company”) and the recording artist professionally known as “Prince” (“Artist”).” The subject of the “Artist Equity Term Sheet” is identified as “The Platform: Company has launched and operates an on demand, subscription based, digital streaming distribution platform, which is currently branded as “Tidal.” The document is signed by Decedent as “Artist,” not on behalf of either NPG Records, Inc. or NPG Music Publishing, LLC.


The “Distribution Agreement” referenced in the Petition is apparently the same document as the Letter of Intent between WiMP Music AS (“Tidal”) and NPG Records, Inc/NPG Music Publishing, LLC dated August 1, 2015. The record is unclear as to the alleged relationships between Roc Nation LLC, WiMP Music AS, Project Panther Ltd., and Aspiro AB, however for purposes of the matter presently before the Court, they will assumed to be interrelated, with WiMP Music AS, Project Panther Ltd., and Aspiro AB falling under the R00 Nation umbrella. In addition to allowance of Roe Nation’s claim, the Petition also seeks access to any and all information within the possession of the Special Administrator concerning the distribution or exploitation of the Estate’s musical assets, and advance notice of any agreements or business dealings that may affect Roc Nation’s alleged claim and interest in the Estate. After his death, Tidal allegedly streamed Decedent’s entire catalog of music without authorization of Bremer or providing Bremer with documentation of their right to do so. As a result, and because most of Decedent’s music catalog is owned by NPG Records, Inc. and NPG Music Publishing, LLC, Bremer caused NPG Records, Inc. and NPG Music Publishing, LLC to file a complaint against Roc Nation and Aspiro AB in federal court for copyright infringement. That matter remains pending.


--Project Pathway is owned by JayZ and it is the corporate enity he used to purchase his stake in Tidal. The agreement is between Prince Rogers Nelson and Pathway/Jay Z not NPG Lll. Tidal also claims they made four payments to Prince Rogers Nelson and expect another Two CDs and for the agreement to go on until the agreeded upon portion of the advance is recouped or after 5 years. What I find interesting his where did the payments go. The company's is based out of the caymans. Could their be a unknown checking account.
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Reply #691 posted 02/03/17 8:08pm

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The company's is based out of the caymans. Could their be a unknown checking account.

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Yup, could they find these sums in Prince's account?

If not they might have one or more accounts to search for...

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Reply #692 posted 02/03/17 8:12pm

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So I wonder who is behind this? The PRNFamily Twitter account is promoting it. Looks like Cassie and some of the NPG Hornz in this pic.

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Reply #693 posted 02/03/17 9:47pm

morningsong

shrug But it has many of Price's friends wink Either way it ain't happenin' no where near me.


Am I just simply miss seeing Exhibit 1 or has it not filed yet?
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Reply #694 posted 02/03/17 10:03pm

morningsong

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



laurarichardson said:


ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:


Make A Wish claim was denied by the Judge in November 2016



--If you go under 1/31/2017 Down 5 from the top you will see Motion to seal settlement with Make A Wish. I am assuming they filed an appeal. [Edited 2/3/17 16:39pm]

Thanks.




To me it looks like its tied to Exhibit 1 and Roc Nation.
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Reply #695 posted 02/04/17 12:00am

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Lovejunky said:

Militant said:

Tyka and Omarr are claiming Sharon Nelson is being personally represented by Londell and that she stated she would use Estate assets to further her own career as a jazz singer eek

oh..!!

I dont know why I am laughing so hard right now...

Distubing ! Not sure whats going on .... it's just been a circus I, wish Prince would have just packed his things and reitred and rested !.....................

These stories within the past months til persence, just crazy and nothing seesm to make any sense ....... I just Pray Prince getting the type of Love he always wanted ... heart

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Reply #696 posted 02/04/17 4:41am

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redpumps said:



Lovejunky said:




Militant said:


Tyka and Omarr are claiming Sharon Nelson is being personally represented by Londell and that she stated she would use Estate assets to further her own career as a jazz singer eek



oh..!!



I dont know why I am laughing so hard right now...



Distubing ! Not sure whats going on .... it's just been a circus I, wish Prince would have just packed his things and reitred and rested !.....



These stories within the past months til persence, just crazy and nothing seesm to make any sense ..... I just Pray Prince getting the type of Love he always wanted ... heart






--Well when the probate is done and she gets her share she can do as she pleases. Now that Londell her manager is gone from the estate he can use his money to fund her carreer.
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Reply #697 posted 02/04/17 5:15am

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morningsong said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



laurarichardson said:


ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:


Make A Wish claim was denied by the Judge in November 2016



--If you go under 1/31/2017 Down 5 from the top you will see Motion to seal settlement with Make A Wish. I am assuming they filed an appeal. [Edited 2/3/17 16:39pm]

Thanks.




To me it looks like its tied to Exhibit 1 and Roc Nation.

--No, if you scroll down to the 5th doc on 1/30 it actually mentions Make A Wish.
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Reply #698 posted 02/04/17 12:43pm

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laurarichardson said:

--Well when the probate is done and she gets her share she can do as she pleases. Now that Londell her manager is gone from the estate he can use his money to fund her carreer.

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Londell McMillan is not "gone" and neither is Koppelmann.

They are still the special advisors to the estate and working the online streaming contracts.

"L. Londell McMillan, a special entertainment adviser to Prince’s estate with Charles Koppelman, told Billboard that the deal was not confirmed last week and still might not happen by the Grammys. "

https://411mania.com/musi...ple-music/

The only thing McMillan Is "gone from" is something he never WAS: formal personal representative of the estate.

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Reply #699 posted 02/04/17 3:35pm

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laytonian said:

laurarichardson said:

--Well when the probate is done and she gets her share she can do as she pleases. Now that Londell her manager is gone from the estate he can use his money to fund her carreer.

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Londell McMillan is not "gone" and neither is Koppelmann.

They are still the special advisors to the estate and working the online streaming contracts.

"L. Londell McMillan, a special entertainment adviser to Prince’s estate with Charles Koppelman, told Billboard that the deal was not confirmed last week and still might not happen by the Grammys. "

https://411mania.com/musi...ple-music/

The only thing McMillan Is "gone from" is something he never WAS: formal personal representative of the estate.

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Londell and Koppelman may be tying up loose ends on the projects they were working on.

They were hired by Bremer.

Comerica may not be keeping them after the full transition from Bremer.

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Reply #700 posted 02/04/17 3:58pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laytonian said:

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Londell McMillan is not "gone" and neither is Koppelmann.

They are still the special advisors to the estate and working the online streaming contracts.

"L. Londell McMillan, a special entertainment adviser to Prince’s estate with Charles Koppelman, told Billboard that the deal was not confirmed last week and still might not happen by the Grammys. "

https://411mania.com/musi...ple-music/

The only thing McMillan Is "gone from" is something he never WAS: formal personal representative of the estate.

.

Londell and Koppelman may be tying up loose ends on the projects they were working on.

They were hired by Bremer.

Comerica may not be keeping them after the full transition from Bremer.


This is what I think. The judge was clear on not keeping either of them and not choosing new personal administrators.

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Reply #701 posted 02/04/17 4:06pm

1Sasha

Because the two sibling factions are fighting.
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Reply #702 posted 02/04/17 6:23pm

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laytonian said:



laurarichardson said:


--Well when the probate is done and she gets her share she can do as she pleases. Now that Londell her manager is gone from the estate he can use his money to fund her carreer.

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Londell McMillan is not "gone" and neither is Koppelmann.


They are still the special advisors to the estate and working the online streaming contracts.


"L. Londell McMillan, a special entertainment adviser to Prince’s estate with Charles Koppelman, told Billboard that the deal was not confirmed last week and still might not happen by the Grammys. "


https://411mania.com/musi...ple-music/



The only thing McMillan Is "gone from" is something he never WAS: formal personal representative of the estate.


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He was the temporary personal representative a position that no longer exist. He no longer has that position as if Feb 1st per court docs. If he still around which I would imagine he will not be if he cannot account for missing money. I would think his actions will be monitored by Comerica bank and the court. Meaning he will not be allowed to cut side deals for himself and go around offering 10k loans.
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Reply #703 posted 02/04/17 6:24pm

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Mumio said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:




laytonian said:



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Londell McMillan is not "gone" and neither is Koppelmann.


They are still the special advisors to the estate and working the online streaming contracts.


"L. Londell McMillan, a special entertainment adviser to Prince’s estate with Charles Koppelman, told Billboard that the deal was not confirmed last week and still might not happen by the Grammys. "


https://411mania.com/musi...ple-music/



The only thing McMillan Is "gone from" is something he never WAS: formal personal representative of the estate.


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Londell and Koppelman may be tying up loose ends on the projects they were working on.


They were hired by Bremer.


Comerica may not be keeping them after the full transition from Bremer.




This is what I think. The judge was clear on not keeping either of them and not choosing new personal administrators.


--I thought the judge was clear as well. 😳
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Reply #704 posted 02/04/17 10:50pm

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It's a definite. Londell refers to himself in the past tense as "former special admin" in his tweet here: https://twitter.com/Londe...1073319937

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Reply #705 posted 02/05/17 3:32am

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Reply #706 posted 02/05/17 7:05am

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Mumio said:

It's a definite. Londell refers to himself in the past tense as "former special admin" in his tweet here: https://twitter.com/Londe...1073319937


--Now maybe some people who championing this fool will let it go. He did some portion of the things he was accused of or the court would not have given him his walking papers. Also it would be unprofessional to discuss what went down on his Twitter but that did not stop him before.
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Reply #707 posted 02/05/17 11:43am

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Mumio said:

It's a definite. Londell refers to himself in the past tense as "former special admin" in his tweet here: https://twitter.com/Londe...1073319937

I could be wrong but to me that reads like he's thanking Bremer for being the former administrators, not referring to himself.

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Reply #708 posted 02/05/17 12:40pm

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Militant said:

Mumio said:

It's a definite. Londell refers to himself in the past tense as "former special admin" in his tweet here: https://twitter.com/Londe...1073319937

I could be wrong but to me that reads like he's thanking Bremer for being the former administrators, not referring to himself.

That's the way I read it too.

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Reply #709 posted 02/05/17 12:57pm

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PennyPurple said:

Militant said:

I could be wrong but to me that reads like he's thanking Bremer for being the former administrators, not referring to himself.

That's the way I read it too.

Listen the judge said their is not going to be a personal rep for the estate. Meaning no one.

Coamerica bank is now running things. I would imagine if they want to bring in a consultant they would have to speak to the family and the judge. I am not sure why anyone thinks Londell would get called first since he would have to refrute the charges that were made, stop representing Sharon Nelson, and the entire family would have to agree which at this time does not seem to be occuring.

Why are some of you rooting for this guy? At the bare minium he did not respond to the family about questions concerning the funds from the concert, should not have been representing Sharon, should not have offered Tyka a 10 million dollar loan, and should not be have been getting a 10% cut of the deals he brokered.

Even the judge said it was Chaos and Confusion. I am not going to go into the Tidal mess as he pretty much accused them of stealing music which that are now being allowed to counter sued over since they did have a contract with Prince Rogers Nelson.

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Reply #710 posted 02/05/17 1:06pm

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I'm not rooting for anyone because I don't have a say in it.

I want whoever is there to do a good job, whoever that might be.

By the way - Londell was appointed with Koppelman as entertainment advisors.

The whole "personal representative" thing is a different position. The fact that the judge says there's not going to be a personal representative has nothing to do with the fact that Londell has been making deals as one of the entertainment advisors. The whole streaming deal that's about to be announced has been worked on by Londell and I am 100% positive that when it gets officially announced on Feb 12th, you'll see quotes by Londell regarding his work on it.



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Reply #711 posted 02/05/17 1:25pm

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Militant said:

I'm not rooting for anyone because I don't have a say in it.

I want whoever is there to do a good job, whoever that might be.

By the way - Londell was appointed with Koppelman as entertainment advisors.

The whole "personal representative" thing is a different position. The fact that the judge says there's not going to be a personal representative has nothing to do with the fact that Londell has been making deals as one of the entertainment advisors. The whole streaming deal that's about to be announced has been worked on by Londell and I am 100% positive that when it gets officially announced on Feb 12th, you'll see quotes by Londell regarding his work on it.




-/He will be quoted for what he did in the past that tells us nothing about what he might be doing in the future. In addition, he will have to answer to Coamerica bank who might actually asked some questions about what he is doing instead of shrugging their shoulders like Beamer. It was also be nice if someone on this board would read the actual court documents and acknowledge what is factual.
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Reply #712 posted 02/05/17 1:58pm

morningsong

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:




To me it looks like its tied to Exhibit 1 and Roc Nation.

--No, if you scroll down to the 5th doc on 1/30 it actually mentions Make A Wish.




OK. I'm getting the language twisted.
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Reply #713 posted 02/05/17 6:35pm

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PennyPurple said:

Militant said:

I could be wrong but to me that reads like he's thanking Bremer for being the former administrators, not referring to himself.

That's the way I read it too.



My apologies. I have gone back and read his tweet and do think you are both correct about this. I can't say whether or not Koppelman has earned his keep but I have no doubt whatsoever that McMillan needs to be done. He's completely lost my confidence in regard to handling Prince's legacy first and foremost with what's been revealed so far.

Again, apologies for my reading error.

[Edited 2/5/17 18:38pm]

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Reply #714 posted 02/05/17 6:50pm

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Mumio said:

PennyPurple said:

That's the way I read it too.



My apologies. I have gone back and read his tweet and do think you are both correct about this. I can't say whether or not Koppelman has earned his keep but I have no doubt whatsoever that McMillan needs to be done. He's completely lost my confidence in regard to handling Prince's legacy first and foremost with what's been revealed so far.

Again, apologies for my reading error.

[Edited 2/5/17 18:38pm]

Yep, they need Londell to hit the road, ASAP. Tomorrow can't be soon enough.

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Reply #715 posted 02/06/17 6:48am

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morningsong said:

laurarichardson said:
--No, if you scroll down to the 5th doc on 1/30 it actually mentions Make A Wish.
OK. I'm getting the language twisted.

Personally, Bremer themselves should be liable for this claim. Not the Estate.

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Reply #716 posted 02/06/17 7:53am

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nelcp777 said:



morningsong said:


laurarichardson said:
--No, if you scroll down to the 5th doc on 1/30 it actually mentions Make A Wish.

OK. I'm getting the language twisted.

Personally, Bremer themselves should be liable for this claim. Not the Estate.


I believe the family is pushing back on the legal fees and the judge did find some to excessive. Bremer actually caused more lawsuits and expense that was not necessary for the estate.
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Reply #717 posted 02/06/17 7:54am

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nelcp777 said:



morningsong said:


laurarichardson said:
--No, if you scroll down to the 5th doc on 1/30 it actually mentions Make A Wish.

OK. I'm getting the language twisted.

Personally, Bremer themselves should be liable for this claim. Not the Estate.


I believe the family is pushing back on the legal fees and the judge did find some to excessive. Bremer actually caused more lawsuits and expense that was not necessary for the estate.
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Reply #718 posted 02/06/17 8:38am

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laurarichardson said:

nelcp777 said:

Personally, Bremer themselves should be liable for this claim. Not the Estate.

I believe the family is pushing back on the legal fees and the judge did find some to excessive. Bremer actually caused more lawsuits and expense that was not necessary for the estate.

It does seem like the family is being more accute.

I was just venting and probably out of line. I want the best for the Family and Prince's legacy.

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Reply #719 posted 02/06/17 12:29pm

morningsong

I'm having to re-read it 40x. I've been confusing Exihibit 1 with what's going on with RN, kept thinking it was the AETS, but I guess not.

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