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PrintableOh come on with the whole lynch mob personas. Why everybody got to be tarred and feathered based on one sentence that somebody said? The man knew hundreds of people in this business, I'm sure she knew a lot of those same people. We know of a handful. I want answers too (dear god do I) but smearing somebody just because you happened to know their name and they don't have the right job title for you seems a bit extreme at this point. | |
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1Sasha said: I would have liked to see more cash, which leads me to agree with you that money could have been stashed elsewhere. --Remember there was a work product turned over by divorce attorneys to the probate court. Could have been a trust for charity or a trust to people. Wealthy people also stash money in Switzerland and the Caymans. I believe he has more assets than what appears on that sheet and it is possible that some of his family members know about it. Think about it if you don't want people to know you have something you do not make it known you keep your mouth shut. If you want someone to have something you tell them how to get it when the probate us over and done. Dude did not tell all his businees when he was alive and he did survive as long as he did in the industry by being a moron. [Edited 2/1/17 11:36am] | |
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Perhaps Tyka and Omarr know. It seems to be those two against the other four. | |
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laurarichardson said: rogifan said: I haven't been following this that closely. When did Van say he no longer worked with Prince? --During his testimony at court. I'm assuming he didn't say why? Paisley Park is in your heart
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rogifan said: laurarichardson said: --During his testimony at court. I'm assuming he didn't say why? --No, he was being asked how long he worked for Prince. | |
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1Sasha said: Perhaps Tyka and Omarr know. It seems to be those two against the other four. --Tyka and Omarr may know a few things that the other sibs do not. Tyka went to meet with JayZ which makes me think she had to have found about the Cayman agreement. I think Londell wanted to get that 10% commission and he was not going to get it if the Tidal deal continued. He was in a hurry to cut a deal with Sportfy and it is obvious Tidal did not want to turn over any documents or payment history to Londell or Breamer since their is no contract between NPG LLC and Tidal they really did not have to respond to any of the request from Breamer. | |
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Another .02 cents from the peanut gallery but I think Van said '8 days' more of: last time I spoke w/ P. IMO, he wasn't an employee. They were friends- P liked his charity ideas and helping out the young struggling get a leg up. Van was interesting, P could call him up to chat, P gave $ for charity Van liked/ agreed. Furthermore, I would like to think P took care of his one or 2 loyal, long time trusted employees (Kirk) and P had to pay something to get some masters back from WB and, I totally see P doing his own (again) thing w/ releasing last 2 albums w/ Tidal. He was always changing it up. My ? is, what is the deal w/ the 1 year anniversary suddenly then everyone's free to talk and publish? Is there some don't talk don't tell rule first 12 months? Or is some big story going to drop with promotion of... | |
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mnfriend said: Another .02 cents from the peanut gallery but I think Van said '8 days' more of: last time I spoke w/ P. IMO, he wasn't an employee. They were friends- P liked his charity ideas and helping out the young struggling get a leg up. Van was interesting, P could call him up to chat, P gave $ for charity Van liked/ agreed. Furthermore, I would like to think P took care of his one or 2 loyal, long time trusted employees (Kirk) and P had to pay something to get some masters back from WB and, I totally see P doing his own (again) thing w/ releasing last 2 albums w/ Tidal. He was always changing it up. My ? is, what is the deal w/ the 1 year anniversary suddenly then everyone's free to talk and publish? Is there some don't talk don't tell rule first 12 months? Or is some big story going to drop with promotion of... Please fill me in on this whole dont talk dont tell for 12 months? Where did thus come from...where can i find info on this? If true, very interesting. | |
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mnfriend said: Another .02 cents from the peanut gallery but I think Van said '8 days' more of: last time I spoke w/ P. IMO, he wasn't an employee. They were friends- P liked his charity ideas and helping out the young struggling get a leg up. Van was interesting, P could call him up to chat, P gave $ for charity Van liked/ agreed. Furthermore, I would like to think P took care of his one or 2 loyal, long time trusted employees (Kirk) and P had to pay something to get some masters back from WB and, I totally see P doing his own (again) thing w/ releasing last 2 albums w/ Tidal. He was always changing it up. My ? is, what is the deal w/ the 1 year anniversary suddenly then everyone's free to talk and publish? Is there some don't talk don't tell rule first 12 months? Or is some big story going to drop with promotion of... I believe he is asked directly when he was at court. -https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2UF_SbKG9hA. | |
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mnfriend said: Another .02 cents from the peanut gallery but I think Van said '8 days' more of: last time I spoke w/ P. IMO, he wasn't an employee. They were friends- P liked his charity ideas and helping out the young struggling get a leg up. Van was interesting, P could call him up to chat, P gave $ for charity Van liked/ agreed. Furthermore, I would like to think P took care of his one or 2 loyal, long time trusted employees (Kirk) and P had to pay something to get some masters back from WB and, I totally see P doing his own (again) thing w/ releasing last 2 albums w/ Tidal. He was always changing it up. My ? is, what is the deal w/ the 1 year anniversary suddenly then everyone's free to talk and publish? Is there some don't talk don't tell rule first 12 months? Or is some big story going to drop with promotion of... --He did pay something to get his masters back he agreeded to that stupid Greatest Hits, Purple Rain remaster, and AOA. I would not be surprised if he was suppose to work on other projects in lieu of getting the masters back. As far as people not talking until April it could be because the investigation is still underway. Once the year comes up the police will either close the investigation or keep it open for another six month. If people know something they would only hurt the investigation by talking. | |
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An Affidavit by one of the attorneys working for Bremer Trust was filed about the Tribute and other matters, along with exhibits, and emails that went back and forth between Bremer and counsel for the non excluded heirs. This is like reading a novella. I am surprised the Tribute was ever held considering all the obstacles, and in fighting. One of the attorneys for the family expressed concern that the "families' desired experts have been replaced with an individual fired by the deceased." The family wanted the Tribute to be August 15, 2016. Some of the reasons for the August 15th date were: The Family Memorial was going to be August 12; school was still out for summer which and it would be easier to sell tickets, and for people to travel and attend; it would be the first event at Vikings stadium, and would honor P's legacy. The attorneys wanted to know the expense to the Estate for the Tribute and how Londell and Koppelman would be compensated. They wanted to know if there would be a charity component. Also Bremer said McMillan was not acting as an agent of the Estate by being the promoter of the Tribute and it was NOT an entertainment deal commisionable under the advisor agreement(WTF?) Im not even halfway through. Taking a break. Which means Im going to have another glass of wine.
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-The family did not want a 3rd party PR company speaking on their behalf about the Tribute. -The family was not agreeable to any statement made by or on behalf of Londell -Conditions under which the family would support the Tribute -Confirmation of the acts -Complete transparency as to finances and promoters -Approval of all communications regarding the event including social media -Approval of all acts -Approval of all set lists, and which acts would play which songs -Plan for merchandise -Any agreement that would go forward would have no evidentiary impact on issues regarding Londell and Koppelman (huh?) -Even 10 days out from the date of the Tribute things were not resolved (no wonder Sheila said she had a conflict and couldnt play at the Tribute. What a freaking mess this was) -In regard to merchandising they didnt need a 3rd party stepping in. The Museum already had Trevor and Kirk who were sensitive to P's wishes on design ideas.
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: -The family did not want a 3rd party PR company speaking on their behalf about the Tribute. -The family was not agreeable to any statement made by or on behalf of Londell -Conditions under which the family would support the Tribute -Confirmation of the acts -Complete transparency as to finances and promoters -Approval of all communications regarding the event including social media -Approval of all acts -Approval of all set lists, and which acts would play which songs -Plan for merchandise -Any agreement that would go forward would have no evidentiary impact on issues regarding Londell and Koppelman (huh?) -Even 10 days out from the date of the Tribute things were not resolved (no wonder Sheila said she had a conflict and couldnt play at the Tribute. What a freaking mess this was) -In regard to merchandising they didnt need a 3rd party stepping in. The Museum already had Trevor and Kirk were sensitive to P's wishes on design ideas.
I tried reading thru some of those emails. I don't see why jobu(sp?) pulled out. and seems like they should have gone with Live Nation. They had far less bad issues even if they didn't pay much up front and everybody knows who they are.Unless P had issues with them in the past. | |
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morningsong said: ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: -The family did not want a 3rd party PR company speaking on their behalf about the Tribute. -The family was not agreeable to any statement made by or on behalf of Londell -Conditions under which the family would support the Tribute -Confirmation of the acts -Complete transparency as to finances and promoters -Approval of all communications regarding the event including social media -Approval of all acts -Approval of all set lists, and which acts would play which songs -Plan for merchandise -Any agreement that would go forward would have no evidentiary impact on issues regarding Londell and Koppelman (huh?) -Even 10 days out from the date of the Tribute things were not resolved (no wonder Sheila said she had a conflict and couldnt play at the Tribute. What a freaking mess this was) -In regard to merchandising they didnt need a 3rd party stepping in. The Museum already had Trevor and Kirk were sensitive to P's wishes on design ideas.
I tried reading thru some of those emails. I don't see why jobu(sp?) pulled out. and seems like they should have gone with Live Nation. They had far less bad issues even if they didn't pay much up front and everybody knows who they are.Unless P had issues with them in the past. --- I thought the family said that they wanted Live Nation to do it and it was Londell did not. I also thought they said they had a chance to do a pay per view but Londell did not want to do that either. I don't think their request were unreasonable and they have asked a good question why did the court and bank want Londell if Prince fired him? [Edited 2/2/17 3:14am] | |
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So when we say the family we mean Tyra and Omarr? Paisley Park is in your heart
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rogifan said: So when we say the family we mean Tyra and Omarr? Yes, I believe they are the only two that seem concerned. I have said all along I do not think the older sibs were close to Prince. We have to remember John left his family to run off with Prince's mom so who knows maybe no love between the older sibs and younger sibs. | |
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IMO everything to do with the Estate comes down to two factions: Tyka and Omarr and then the other four. The other four, who were not close to Prince, seem to want to cash out and be done with it. | |
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Ha, Londell is on twitter thanking the Purple Army for their support.  Paisley Park is in your heart
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More and more I see how Prince had to be the commando he was, running his empire with these people in and out of his life. | |
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Billboard has a new article about these goings-on: it says the Estate paid $21 million in taxes on January 23, with the balance due in six months. | |
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rogifan said: Ha, Londell is on twitter thanking the Purple Army for their support. What support is speaking of? At the end if the day he is going to have to account for the money from the concert. If I were in Tyka or Omarr shoes I would file a criminal complaint for stealing if he can't produce an accounting of where the money went to. I would also sir his ass if the money does not turn up. The bank has already thrown his ass under the bus anyway. I also love how the media is glossing over his incompetence and how he may well have caused the counter suit that Roc Nation has filed. Who in their right mind would think that Tidal did not pay any money to put the music on the website and that there was no agreement at all. Londell is a fool. | |
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Playing fast and loose. It shouldn't, but it does amaze me that someone of Prince's caliber would have such lowlifes around him, and involved in his financial affairs. I know LM was dismissed a long time ago, but talk about putting the thieves back in to the temple ... | |
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1Sasha said: Playing fast and loose. It shouldn't, but it does amaze me that someone of Prince's caliber would have such lowlifes around him, and involved in his financial affairs. I know LM was dismissed a long time ago, but talk about putting the thieves back in to the temple ...  | |
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1Sasha said: IMO everything to do with the Estate comes down to two factions: Tyka and Omarr and then the other four. The other four, who were not close to Prince, seem to want to cash out and be done with it. That is the sense I get. We don't know if he would have even included them in any inheritance if he had prepared a will. But that's beside the point because the estate must follow the law. They are all quite elderly by now too aren't they? Why would they be motivated at this point to put any work into securing PP's future, etc? I'm sure they just want this over with so they can move on. Thankful that at least two siblings are concerned about preserving his legacy. That being said seeing the attorney's fees already plus taxes paid with more still owing, it seems almost impossible for the estate to make enough money to even get thru the settlements much less be an ongoing successful business. It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN | |
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1Sasha said: Playing fast and loose. It shouldn't, but it does amaze me that someone of Prince's caliber would have such lowlifes around him, and involved in his financial affairs. I know LM was dismissed a long time ago, but talk about putting the thieves back in to the temple ... -- But the rumors are Prince fired him and you have Julie his manger from 2007 to 2014 saying I told you so. I wonder if she tried to tell the bank why Londell was fired. He is also accused of pulling some of the same stunts with Jackson family. Tkya and Omarr are right to ask why he was given the job in the first place. | |
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sonshine said: 1Sasha said: IMO everything to do with the Estate comes down to two factions: Tyka and Omarr and then the other four. The other four, who were not close to Prince, seem to want to cash out and be done with it. That is the sense I get. We don't know if he would have even included them in any inheritance if he had prepared a will. But that's beside the point because the estate must follow the law. They are all quite elderly by now too aren't they? Why would they be motivated at this point to put any work into securing PP's future, etc? I'm sure they just want this over with so they can move on. Thankful that at least two siblings are concerned about preserving his legacy. That being said seeing the attorney's fees already plus taxes paid with more still owing, it seems almost impossible for the estate to make enough money to even get thru the settlements much less be an ongoing successful business. Honestly all I care about is that they're able to earn enoug to keep Paisley Park up and running. I know a lot of people complained about the price of the Celebration tickets and feeling like the estate is just trying to rip off fans. I never understood that thinking. It makes zero sense for PP management to turn off the very same people they will need to help keep PP up and running. Or the very same people they will need to purchase new releases that might come from the vault. Paisley Park is in your heart
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Hmmm...🤔
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The only thing in those court docs are his and the banks claims. Where is the money from the concert and where is the filmed footage? He is really mad because the 7 million became know to the public and the fact that he was getting a 10% fee, representing Sharon, and sending that stupid e-mail about a low cost loan. The judge threw him off for a reason. | |
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