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Reply #570 posted 01/28/17 9:12am

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morningsong said:



Misslink88 said:


Can anyone answer why Claire Elizabeth Elliot is being cc'd on documents if she's been deemed a frivolous claimant?






Looks like as long as one still submits claims they still get cc'd on stuff. Which is why I believe all these over the top claims...oh nevermind.


--You are right I believe people file frivolous claims to get cc on stuff.
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Reply #571 posted 01/28/17 12:27pm

1Sasha

For their 15 minutes of fame ...

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Reply #572 posted 01/28/17 8:19pm

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nelcp777 said:

Interesting order released by the Judge for the Jeffers claim, asking for evidence to the Slayer claim and clarification on the her other claim. ISaidLifeIsJustAGame, can you give us insight on this? If her claim is bogus, can she face legal repurcussions, particularly for the slayer claim?

I also wonder why the Judge did not dismiss The Slayer Rule claim.

Criminal perjury charges could be brought against her because her claim is notarized.

But if she has mental health issues then her defense could be she did not knowingly

commit perjury.

You will rarely see perjury charges filed even against people who get on the witness stand and lie.

wacky

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Reply #573 posted 01/29/17 2:27am

rap

Christ Amighty! How many managers did he have in his last years?

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Reply #574 posted 01/29/17 6:43am

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rap said:

Christ Amighty! How many managers did he have in his last years?


--Phedra was the manager of his LLC.
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Reply #575 posted 01/29/17 6:59am

1Sasha

Rap, it was said he changed lawyers and other professionals almost every year for the past 25 years. I don't know if that was true. It was also said his representation during the early 80s and past the Purple Rain era were very, very good, but he fired them as well.

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Reply #576 posted 01/29/17 7:46am

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1Sasha said:

Rap, it was said he changed lawyers and other professionals almost every year for the past 25 years. I don't know if that was true. It was also said his representation during the early 80s and past the Purple Rain era were very, very good, but he fired them as well.


--Not true. According Alan Leeds the spaghetti brothers did not know what they were doing when it came to Paisly Park records and that Prince fired them after the Lovesexy tour because he lost a lot of money and the fees that he had to pay them he felt were too high. Alan also said he was making money later in 2000's than he ever did under his old management even thought he did not think Prince would be successful. I als believe McMillian was around for a while and so was Julie Ramandan. He did do a purge every few years of band and staff.
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Reply #577 posted 01/29/17 7:58am

1Sasha

I heard differently, but we can agree to disagree.

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Reply #578 posted 01/29/17 9:20am

least87

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

nelcp777 said:

Interesting order released by the Judge for the Jeffers claim, asking for evidence to the Slayer claim and clarification on the her other claim. ISaidLifeIsJustAGame, can you give us insight on this? If her claim is bogus, can she face legal repurcussions, particularly for the slayer claim?

I also wonder why the Judge did not dismiss The Slayer Rule claim.

Criminal perjury charges could be brought against her because her claim is notarized.

But if she has mental health issues then her defense could be she did not knowingly

commit perjury.

You will rarely see perjury charges filed even against people who get on the witness stand and lie.

wacky

I wondered what the Slayer Rule was... here's the definition... The slayer rule, in the common law of inheritance, is a doctrine that prohibits inheritance by a person who murders someone from whom he or she stands to inherit (e.g., a murderer does not inherit from parents he or she killed). In calculating inheritance of the decedent's estate, the effect of the slayer rule was that the slayer would be treated as though he or she had predeceased the person who had been murdered, therefore his or her share of the estate would pass to his or her issue.

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Reply #579 posted 01/29/17 10:08am

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1Sasha said:

I heard differently, but we can agree to disagree.


I am just repeating what Alan said and Prince made out really well in the concert circuit at some point he was getting a million dollars a show and he did not die with loads of debt. He was not always right and I am sure he had a learning curve to get over but promotors like AGE Live have great things to say about him.
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Reply #580 posted 01/29/17 6:01pm

rogifan

What the heck is this?

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Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
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Reply #581 posted 01/29/17 7:15pm

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rogifan said:

What the heck is this?

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Who knows what he is babbling about.
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Reply #582 posted 01/29/17 8:05pm

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laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

What the heck is this?

SRJn1.png

Who knows what he is babbling about. If he did do anything wrong then he needs to cough up the money from the concert and explain why he was offering a 10 million dollar loan to Tyka and why he was representing Sharon.
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Reply #583 posted 01/29/17 9:27pm

rap

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

Rap, it was said he changed lawyers and other professionals almost every year for the past 25 years. I don't know if that was true. It was also said his representation during the early 80s and past the Purple Rain era were very, very good, but he fired them as well.

--Not true. According Alan Leeds the spaghetti brothers did not know what they were doing when it came to Paisly Park records and that Prince fired them after the Lovesexy tour because he lost a lot of money and the fees that he had to pay them he felt were too high. Alan also said he was making money later in 2000's than he ever did under his old management even thought he did not think Prince would be successful. I als believe McMillian was around for a while and so was Julie Ramandan. He did do a purge every few years of band and staff.

Yes but, how many were actually qualified and up to the job?... And I'd take Alan Leeds word over most others - a very articulate and knowledgeable man.

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Reply #584 posted 01/29/17 9:55pm

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rogifan said:

What the heck is this? SRJn1.png

Londell needs to stay off Twitter.

Just like someone else.....

eek

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Reply #585 posted 01/30/17 1:55am

rogifan

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



rogifan said:


What the heck is this? SRJn1.png

Londell needs to stay off Twitter.


Just like someone else.....


eek


As I've said before it's pretty clear PRiNCeFAMCLUB is Londell. Pretty sad though that he's use a so-called fam club account to defend himself. But I see the family has a website now so I imagine that's where they will be getting out their side of the story.
Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #586 posted 01/30/17 3:02am

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rogifan said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Londell needs to stay off Twitter.

Just like someone else.....

eek

As I've said before it's pretty clear PRiNCeFAMCLUB is Londell. Pretty sad though that he's use a so-called fam club account to defend himself. But I see the family has a website now so I imagine that's where they will be getting out their side of the story.

I assume this was a recent tweet? Could it be about that Super Bowl tribute thingy?

It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #587 posted 01/30/17 5:24am

rogifan

sonshine said:



rogifan said:


ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:


Londell needs to stay off Twitter.


Just like someone else.....


eek



As I've said before it's pretty clear PRiNCeFAMCLUB is Londell. Pretty sad though that he's use a so-called fam club account to defend himself. But I see the family has a website now so I imagine that's where they will be getting out their side of the story.

I assume this was a recent tweet? Could it be about that Super Bowl tribute thingy?


Well that Prince Tribute Twitter account was set up last year in conjunction with the official tribute concert. So I'm assuming he's referring to the allegations in the court document. But what's his evidence that the allegations were false?
Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #588 posted 01/30/17 5:57am

rogifan

Wow Londell just doesn't quit. I guess he knows he's out of the picture for good now...

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Reply #589 posted 01/30/17 7:52am

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eek Londell's true colors are showing...glad the family caught on before he did any more damage.
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Reply #590 posted 01/30/17 9:51am

nelcp777

least87 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I also wonder why the Judge did not dismiss The Slayer Rule claim.

Criminal perjury charges could be brought against her because her claim is notarized.

But if she has mental health issues then her defense could be she did not knowingly

commit perjury.

You will rarely see perjury charges filed even against people who get on the witness stand and lie.

wacky

I wondered what the Slayer Rule was... here's the definition... The slayer rule, in the common law of inheritance, is a doctrine that prohibits inheritance by a person who murders someone from whom he or she stands to inherit (e.g., a murderer does not inherit from parents he or she killed). In calculating inheritance of the decedent's estate, the effect of the slayer rule was that the slayer would be treated as though he or she had predeceased the person who had been murdered, therefore his or her share of the estate would pass to his or her issue.

Thanks. I just find it odd she would make a claim like this. Particularly since there is an active investigation going on. I am not taking sides, but at some point, when a claim is made, the common sense, logic or realizaton that if evidence/documentation to support said claims does not exist, the claim will be dismissed. Not to mention the frivolous apprearance that is attached to it.

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Reply #591 posted 01/30/17 10:55am

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

eek Londell's true colors are showing...glad the family caught on before he did any more damage.

--He is mental. Maybe the concert did not generate 7 million but if it generated any profit or even a loss it should be listed on the inventory report or the family needs to see an accounting. The concert was in October it is absurd that they had to go to court to get an accounting.
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Reply #592 posted 01/30/17 11:22am

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Mumio said:

"I used to sing it in the shower" The crazy just never seems to end, does it: http://www.mncourts.gov/m...aim_12.pdf



:falloff: That is hilarious! Thanks so much to everyone doing the digging and sharing. Got to be some light moments in the long, long wait for this to be sorted so we can get the good stuff out the vault.
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Reply #593 posted 01/30/17 11:56am

rogifan

Is Londell still in a position to make decisions on Prince's music?

L Londell McMillan (@LondellMcMillan)
1/30/17, 1:50 PM
FACTS: #PEER2PEER WAS IMPORTANT 2 #PRINCE SO IT SHOULD BE RESPECTED... WORKING HARD !!! WE GOT U... #STAY-TUNED #RESPECTTHELEGACY ☔️
Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #594 posted 01/30/17 12:12pm

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rogifan said:

Is Londell still in a position to make decisions on Prince's music?

L Londell McMillan (@LondellMcMillan)
1/30/17, 1:50 PM
FACTS: #PEER2PEER WAS IMPORTANT 2 #PRINCE SO IT SHOULD BE RESPECTED... WORKING HARD !!! WE GOT U... #STAY-TUNED #RESPECTTHELEGACY ☔️

--I believe he is still around until the next hearing which is on Feb 8th. How are they going to go back to peer to peer when he already has put in deals with streaming platforms that Prince did not want to be on. How has he respected his legacy?
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Reply #595 posted 01/30/17 1:05pm

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Laurarichardson, the February 8, 2017 hearing is about Phaedra's Petition.

The Judge already ruled that a co-Representative would not be appointed.

There is a current transistion between Bremer and Comerica.

I doubt if Comerica will keep Londell on as an entertainment expert since Omarr and Tyka do not want him working on the Estate.

Londell may be tying up loose ends on projects he was working on under Bremer but I believe his days are numbered for his work on the Estate.

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Reply #596 posted 01/30/17 1:18pm

rogifan

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

Is Londell still in a position to make decisions on Prince's music?


--I believe he is still around until the next hearing which is on Feb 8th. How are they going to go back to peer to peer when he already has put in deals with streaming platforms that Prince did not want to be on. How has he respected his legacy?

People say the women in his life have the right to speak out or write books if they want (even if he wouldn't have wanted it and they sure as hell wouldn't have done it when he was alive). But putting his music on streaming services that every other major artist is on isn't respecting his legacy. Seems like a contradiction to me. Btw, Hit N Run Phase 2 is available on Apple Music right now. Copywrite on that says NPG Records, Inc. 2015. No mention of Warner Brothers at all.
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Reply #597 posted 01/30/17 1:27pm

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rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:


--I believe he is still around until the next hearing which is on Feb 8th. How are they going to go back to peer to peer when he already has put in deals with streaming platforms that Prince did not want to be on. How has he respected his legacy?

People say the women in his life have the right to speak out or write books if they want (even if he wouldn't have wanted it and they sure as hell wouldn't have done it when he was alive). But putting his music on streaming services that every other major artist is on isn't respecting his legacy. Seems like a contradiction to me. Btw, Hit N Run Phase 2 is available on Apple Music right now. Copywrite on that says NPG Records, Inc. 2015. No mention of Warner Brothers at all.

--Please explain how you are making a comparison between the two. We have no idea how he would feel about people discussing his relationships since those people were actually in the relationship with him and have a right to discuss their own lives. We do know how he felt about streaming services offering him pennies for his work and we know that some projects like Hit and Run were not exclusive to Tidal for all we know Prince may have negotiated a good royalty rate for Hit and Run and I hope any future deals with streaming services are lucrative for the estate and not for Londell McMillian. You should also know that when the probate is completed the family can take the music anywhere they like and I am sure if they see a couple of checks for pennies they will not be on these platforms for long.
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Reply #598 posted 01/30/17 1:30pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Laurarichardson, the February 8, 2017 hearing is about Phaedra's Petition.


The Judge already ruled that a co-Representative would not be appointed.


There is a current transistion between Bremer and Comerica.


I doubt if Comerica will keep Londell on as an entertainment expert since Omarr and Tyka do not want him working on the Estate.


Londell may be tying up loose ends on projects he was working on under Bremer but I believe his days are numbered for his work on the Estate.


--If he is going why is he still tweeting about pending business arrangements when that was one of the things they wanted him to stop doing. He is still acting as if he is the top dog.
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Reply #599 posted 01/30/17 2:38pm

1Sasha

This is why they need top notch representation. Please call Irving Azoff. Please Family. Please. Buy the experience you need to honor and preserve Prince's legacy, which is his music.

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