laurarichardson said:

PeteSilas said:

Genesia said:

PeteSilas said: What does this have to do with the price of pork - or this thread?

someone brought up that the scene in UTCM where the black lady came to prince and how it showed that Prince was rejecting black women/blackness. I'm just saying that Greg Tate read it differently, are you following the thread? We're talking about Prince and how Blackmon supposedly said he was kissing up to white folk.

Those are the same people who forget the scene where he stopped turned around and bought another darkskinned black woman a flower.

morningsong said:

WHAT 1991 MTV INCIDENT???

thebanishedone said:

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

I hate to think something like this happen to him but back in the day people did not take this stuff seriously. In addition, Andre Cymone said his brother Eddie was a pimp and that Prince got an education in the Andersen household. May me wonder what in the world he was exposed to.

prince wouldn't be alone, lots of men messed around with grown women. These days the media has people brainwashed, but not really, when these women get caught, they always get a slap on the wrist compared to men caught for the same thing and people always laugh about it. I wouldn't have complain one bit, i promise.

luvgirl said:

thebanishedone said:

RJOrion said:

thebanishedone said:

In

Cameo Fights Funk Image

interview Larry said

I could name names but I won't," he said. "You know who I'm talking about anyway. It's like, now they have all that money, they can forget they're black. They don't have to worry about money. They could say and do a lot of things for black people but they don't. All of them would be nowhere without that black base audience that gave them a start.

"One guy in particular I used to hang out with when he had nothing. I remember when he was playing bars on Seventh Avenue (in New York). Now he's big and all of a sudden very white. That bothers me."

This interview was from 1986.Prince played in New York Ritz club in 1981

and Prince was accused around that time for selling out to white audiance so was he talking about Prince?

[Edited 1/9/17 12:59pm]

nah...i doubt it....Larry Blackmon has been on record saying him and P were real cool...John Blackwell even came from Cameo's camp

remember this was in 1986 maybe they were cool latter

princve was friend with Slash and Axl latter in life but u cant say they were friends during the 1991 mtv incident

Can you please tell me about that incident.

gullahgirl said:

luvgirl said:

Can you please tell me about that incident.

I remember this incident that Slash was pissed Prince snubbed him. Apparently Prince was talking with Lenny Kravitz and Slash comes up and Prince blows him off. Prince completely ignored Slash. Keep in mind earlier in the night slash was already drunk/high and has dropped the f bomb on live tv. Also don't know if manu people know this Lenny Kravitz and Slash went to the same high school. Probably thought since he was cool with Lenny he would be cool with Prince .There was even an interview afterwards that Slash did talking about how he was not feeling Prince that night and thought he looked like a f*g (sorry I refuse to type that horrible word). Fast forward Prince and Slash bury the hatchet I believe they ended up being cool with each other. Plus Slash has changed alot too.

gullahgirl said:

luvgirl said:

Can you please tell me about that incident.

I remember this incident that Slash was pissed Prince snubbed him. Apparently Prince was talking with Lenny Kravitz and Slash comes up and Prince blows him off. Prince completely ignored Slash. Keep in mind earlier in the night slash was already drunk/high and has dropped the f bomb on live tv. Also don't know if manu people know this Lenny Kravitz and Slash went to the same high school. Probably thought since he was cool with Lenny he would be cool with Prince .There was even an interview afterwards that Slash did talking about how he was not feeling Prince that night and thought he looked like a f*g (sorry I refuse to type that horrible word). Fast forward Prince and Slash bury the hatchet I believe they ended up being cool with each other. Plus Slash has changed alot too.

Thx guys 4 clarifying.

Were the G&R anyone in January 90 though? Could Prince even know who they were?

No one in France had heard of them save metal fans before they released UYI.

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:

PeteSilas said:

Genesia said:

PeteSilas said: What does this have to do with the price of pork - or this thread?

someone brought up that the scene in UTCM where the black lady came to prince and how it showed that Prince was rejecting black women/blackness. I'm just saying that Greg Tate read it differently, are you following the thread? We're talking about Prince and how Blackmon supposedly said he was kissing up to white folk.

Those are the same people who forget the scene where he stopped turned around and bought another darkskinned black woman a flower.

Yes, people keep forgetting that part. I never got the impression he did not like black folk He just needed to sell records.

databank said:

Thx guys 4 clarifying.

Were the G&R anyone in January 90 though? Could Prince even know who they were?

No one in France had heard of them save metal fans before they released UYI.

Yeah,they were huge during that time (late 80s/early 90s).Prince had to known who they were,although he probably wasn't a fan of theirs During that award show,they were drunk and obnoxious....probably not the kind of people that Prince wanted to hang out with,lol.

SoulAlive said:

The incident occurred January 1990 backstage at the American Music Awards.Prince won a special award that night.Slash and Axl Rose saw Prince and wanted to hang with him,but he and his entourage walked right past them without saying a word."I didn't really care",Slash said later."He looked like a f#< that night anyway"

TwiliteKid said:

I'm having a brainfart, because for the life of me I can't remember this scene in UTCM where Prince has a 'nightmare about a fat black woman'.

CalhounSq said:

This thread is like super meaningful

KoolEaze said:

laurarichardson said:

KoolEaze said: //The whole entire Parade show was black as hell. Now we know about all the black Prince helped out it kind of makes this irrelevant.

Sure. But you know how Wendy and other members felt about that.

And yes, Prince did a lot of things that people weren´t aware of back then (but then again, we already knew about many good things he was doing, such as helping Marva Collins and her school).

What did you find irrelevant about my post?

It is irrelevant now, but I was merely trying to answer the OP´s question regarding Larry Blackmon´s attitude ( and also other people´s attitude ) regarding Prince´s "blacknesss" and Funk roots in the mid to late 80s.

I dont' suppose anyone could fill me in on that, or point me in the right direction of where to read please?

its the part where the demonic ugly as hell Eartha Kitt reject bitch is in his face.

NouveauDance said:

I'm having a brainfart, because for the life of me I can't remember this scene in UTCM where Prince has a 'nightmare about a fat black woman'.

so, Larry Blackmon's dad was Miles Davis' boxing coach...Plenty of stories of Prince, Miles and Larry hanging out after thsi particular interview..Nowhere does he say Prince spo it could be a number of people..Prince didnt play bars in NYC , he had a show at the ritz

TwiliteKid said:

gullahgirl said:

I remember this incident that Slash was pissed Prince snubbed him. Apparently Prince was talking with Lenny Kravitz and Slash comes up and Prince blows him off. Prince completely ignored Slash. Keep in mind earlier in the night slash was already drunk/high and has dropped the f bomb on live tv. Also don't know if manu people know this Lenny Kravitz and Slash went to the same high school. Probably thought since he was cool with Lenny he would be cool with Prince .There was even an interview afterwards that Slash did talking about how he was not feeling Prince that night and thought he looked like a f*g (sorry I refuse to type that horrible word). Fast forward Prince and Slash bury the hatchet I believe they ended up being cool with each other. Plus Slash has changed alot too.

GNR's performance on the 91 VMAs was broadcast via satellite from a show they were doing elsewhere (possibly London?), so it would have been difficult for Slash to come upon Prince and Lenny backstage at the show. Are you thinking of a different event? [Edited 1/10/17 21:38pm]

its was the AMA's

laurarichardson said:

KoolEaze said:

According to Larry Blackmon they did hang out. But Larry had nothing but praise for him and told some anecdotes from the 70s when they were at a party with Miles...but as far as I know this can´t be true, can it? Because from what I´ve read in biographies Prince and Miles met later, not in the 70s. But maybe Larry got the date wrong. He wrote about Prince after he´d passed away, and he had nothing but respect and admiration for him.

But that does not negate what I wrote above, nor does it rule out that Larry was indeed referring to Prince in that 86 interview. However, I remain skeptical until I see a source or two, and there´s also the possibility that the diss was just a temporary thing back then, if it ever happened at all.

But....google Larry Blackmon and Prince and you´ll find that they indeed hung out.

He was not talking about hanging with Miles in the 70s he was talking about hanging out Miles birthday party in 86. Pepe Willis also said they hung out with Cameo when Prince was promoting his first album.

No, Larry clearly said "in the 70s".

This is what Larry Blackmon posted on his Facebook page on April 27 :

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"Prince and myself were both honored to be mentioned in Miles Davis' autobiography. Miles gave a birthday party in New York on the east side in the '70s and we were both invited. We were all sitting at the table and a member of Miles Davis' entourage was very talkative, a little beyond what was necessary. Prince leaned over to me and said “Larry, I can't take much more of this, I'll see you guys later.” It was a little funnier than that, but that impressed me. He was a very private person. He wasn't very talkative, especially in an environment he wasn't familiar with, but he was always courteous. That was the last time we had that much time together. We would run into each other occasionally, and it was always a pleasure. He was a class act. When we had our encounters, it was always warm. We both felt like we belonged to a special club.

In turn, there were a lot of people from my organization that Prince would choose to work. They called it the CAMEO orientation. The most recent was John Blackwell who played drums for Prince from 2000 to 2012. Johnny would tell me that Prince used to yell at him and say “man, I need that Larry Blackmon funk on the damn drums!”

RIP His Purple Highness"

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I know it sounds very unlikely that this really happened in the 1970s. I always thought that Prince and Miles met much later, and I vaguely remember that Miles also said that they met later (but it´s been 20 years since I´ve read his biography, so I´m really not sure, and who knows, maybe they did meet earlier and Larry was right when he said 70s ? I don´t know. Guess we´ll either have to believe Larry Blackmon or ask him on Facebook.

Also, I think some of these celebrities are something not that sure about those timelines as we fans are.

that's not about Prince

SoulAlive said:

databank said:

Thx guys 4 clarifying.

Were the G&R anyone in January 90 though? Could Prince even know who they were?

No one in France had heard of them save metal fans before they released UYI.

Yeah,they were huge during that time (late 80s/early 90s).Prince had to known who they were,although he probably wasn't a fan of theirs During that award show,they were drunk and obnoxious....probably not the kind of people that Prince wanted to hang out with,lol.

funny thing is, axl rose mentioned talking to Prince sometime in an interview right around 89-90.

NouveauDance said:

I'm having a brainfart, because for the life of me I can't remember this scene in UTCM where Prince has a 'nightmare about a fat black woman'.

she wasn't fat. there is obviously some back story to this one. People seem to be trying to racialize the situation. And forget the beautiful chic african descendant woman at the beginning he picked out and bought the flowers for

OldFriends4Sale said:

NouveauDance said:

I'm having a brainfart, because for the life of me I can't remember this scene in UTCM where Prince has a 'nightmare about a fat black woman'.

she wasn't fat. there is obviously some back story to this one. People seem to be trying to racialize the situation. And forget the beautiful chic african descendant woman at the beginning he picked out and bought the flowers for

who knows, the camera angle though, it is just like some of those horny old women that used to talk to me, so that's why it reminded me of what Greg Tate said. Anyway, there isn't a black figure who's never been accused of selling out, except maybe Malcolm X. Everyone else is fair game. Black folks have always said something about their heroes letting them down. I never thought of that scene like that until the book Poplife, brought it to my attention.

KoolEaze said:

KoolEaze said: