Inasenselost said:

anangellooksdown said:

kepurplehunter said:

anangellooksdown said:

Seems like the non-talkers are continuing to maintain Prince's approach to his privacy, even after his death. Remeber that Judith Hill was attacked by many in the org for her interview with the NYTimes in which she discussed the plane incident; she was called "self serving."

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At least around here, when it comes to Prince's associates sharing personal details about him, it's kind of damned if you do ("why are you trying to get attention by talking about Prince?" "A REAL friend would respect Prince's wish for privacy!") and damned if you don't ("what are you hiding?" "why don't you care about helping the fans get closure?")

anangellooksdown said:

It was said by those close to him that he was very "agitated" during those last several days. I believe he was probably trying to cope without certain pain medication. When I hear people say, "no more pain..." I think mostly of those last days - that he doesn't have to suffer anymore. For whatever reason he had not by that time received any relief for all of what was going on but from where he is now, I think he is okay with everything and has accepted all pretty quickly if not immediately after his transition.

-It was by who. In 8 months only Judith Hill has actually said anything about his last days. We have not heard a word from Kirk or Meron or Phedra. Until these people speak out their own mouths I would take a they or someone said not seriously. I am telling you if he was my best friend I would say something be it good or bad. [Edited 12/30/16 11:57am]

Ask any emergency medical service responder if people can and do behave completely normal just prior to death. You will be told yes, it is not out of the norm at all. Do not present his behavior as being exceptional....it is not so in the ems community.

Laura, I won't clutter up the thread responding to all this (if anyone still cares, they can use the Search box to find many past discussions on all these topics). As for "being the only fan of the Strib," I never thought of myself as a fan but I'll take it! Unfortunately for non-fans, the Strib has been the original source for a number of reports that get cited here (even when the Strib reporting is then picked up by another outlet), so if you subtract the Strib from your source list, you'll have a real dearth of info.

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As for "new information" coming out -- i haven't seen anything new from reliable sources but happy to check anything interesting you''ve found (though the conversation should probably move to another thread). I do have to say that when people cite sources that they can't provide links to (or even specific information about, if it's an offline source), I don't find it particularly persusive. I am a bit of a stickler for sources.

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And apologies for this thread hijack to the original poster, who asked a simple yes/no questions, the answer to which is "no." I'll do my part to get this thread back on track (or let it die) by signing off of it now...

laurarichardson said:

disch said:

Oh for christ sake, laura. I don't think the lawyer was "lying." Obviously there was an emergency (out-of-control opioid use and/or severe withdrawal) because Prince's associates reached out to an addiction specialist on April 20 and that Dr. arranged for an emergency intervention. Oh and Prince died of an opioid overdose less than 24 hours after Dr. K. was contacted. (And no, I don't think they called Dr. K beucase of Dr. K's"pain management" expertise and the emergency was Prince's overwhelming, crippling, incapacitating joint pain, having nothing to do whatsoever with opioid use. That just makes no sense. People don't stage emergency interventions because of joint pain.)

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What I don't understand is what about this lawyer's interview from May has suddenly struck you as critical here. The relevance of Dr. K is simply that he, an addiction specialist, was brought into the situation the day prior to P's death. As for Dr. K's assessment of P, that's not very telling because he never actually met P. (Side note: The lawyer's interview was published in the Strib. Weren't you just ranting the other day that the Strib is nothing but worthless tabloid trash? Why are you even referencing a story published there?)

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There's no "spin" going on other than what fantasists on this site have spun for the 8 months since P died. I know that there's excitement here that the reason there have been no charges yet is because authorities are busy building such a massive case around the murder conspiracy. But here's some reality: Every day that passes without charges makes it LESS likely that charges are ever coming, not more likely. And folks are going to have to find a way to deal with the fact that an incredible, gifted, hard-working person like Prince also had human weakness and vulnerabilies and made some poor choices along the way. Like every human being. #truth.

Do you have a comprehension problem? I asked a question about if you thought the Doctor was telling a lie. Did I say I believed the Doctor was telling a lie? I will answer this question for you since you never answer any questions or simply do not know what a question is. The answer is no.

We only know that Prince’s associates reached out to Dr. K from his lawyer’s comments and I believe one interview with Dr. K. We have no way of knowing if this intervention was known by Prince. From what I know most people do not know that an intervention is being planned as the reason for an intervention is usually because the person does not want help.

We the public have been told by unknown sources that Prince was seeing Dr. S for management of withdrawals so he would have already been getting help and we would have no way of knowing if he would have accepted the help of Dr. K’s son who it was reported arrived in Minneapolis the night of the 20^th. I would think an emergency would have meant Dr.K son would have gone to Paisley Park to meet with Prince that night.

Also the lawyer is only going to be able to tell the media what his client told him. I have friends who are defense attorneys they have had clients lie to them or only tell half the story.

Oh and Dr. K does practice alternatives to pain management at this center but apparently you do not believe Prince had any joint issues at all. We know that he told at least two people he was not feeling a 100 percent and that he was going to go see his Dr. to find out what was going on and let the promotor know and Andrian know about additional shows. Does that sound like something someone who is knowingly out of control on drugs would say. I need to see my doctor to tell me I am addicted to drugs and ill.

Dr K would have only been able to go on what the associates told him so we really do not know how sick Prince was or if he was sick at all.

I do not think the lawyer’s interview is critical but I think it is important since a poster on this board is saying they read an interview with two people who say they dropped Prince off the night of the 20^th and he seemed fine along with the fact that he was out and about the days before the 20^th with numerous people saying he was fine. Question How can someone be seen by so many people be out and about yet be described by his associates as in "grave medical emergency"? I get that Prince may have been saving face but if you are sick you cannot save face because you are too ill to be out and about. Please tell me you do not find this odd because it is odd.

“The lawyer's interview was published in the Strib. Weren't you just ranting the other day that the Strib is nothing but worthless tabloid trash? Why are you even referencing a story published there?”

I did not read the interview in the Star I saw the interview with the lawyer on CCN when he gave a press conference. You are the only fan of the Star Tribune on this board and I stand by everything I said about them because it is true. They did not give a rat’s ass about what Prince was doing prior to his death and their interest now is for the sole purpose of making money with no interest in the actual investigation of his case. It is much cheaper to go the tabloid route then it is to spend money on investigative reporting but you work in the media so you are well aware.

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“Every day that passes without charges makes it LESS likely that charges are ever coming, not more likely. And folks are going to have to find a way to deal with the fact that an incredible, gifted, hard-working person like Prince also had human weakness and vulnerabilies and made some poor choices along the way. Like every human being. #truth.”

You are correct every day that passes means the case will not be solved which is going to be the fault of the keystone cops of Carver County.

Yes, you are right Prince had joint pain and used the powerful drugs that are the only means of medical help for that problem. I guess that was a poor choice on his part to utilize what was available.

Things about this case do not add up and it has been discussed numerous times with some new information just coming out that convinces me that more was going on with his help then joint pain and addiction. Maybe you should just stay off of this topic and enjoy reading Prince’s divorce file or the stupid articles today about his Real Estate being sold and the family fighting over the money when the money will be split equally by the court ( such top notch reporting by the media that is too clueless to look up probate law in Minneapolis )

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