I know Prince had several people that were or became born-again Christians. I have to wonder if any of them ever discussed their beliefs. I would have to believe that Vanity did at some point. | |
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Please stop using lyrics from Prince's recording catalogue to define/understand his religious leanings or beliefs. Prince was a devout Christian reborn as a JW. Before then, he was a Christian Seventh Day Adventist. Not Hindu, not Muslim, etc. Christian. That is all. I'm in the news again
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I salute you ~ Your reply was everything I wished I had said...
The only correction or small adjustment I would make is that the Third Eye although asociated with Shiva, is not a concept at all, but a reality that rpresents the Phineal Gland which is situated at this point.
In mysticism the THird EYE or the All Seeing eye, is the place where one can focus attention and by trusting what one see,s gain access to the non physical realm.
Prince obviously was a student of the esoteric sciences, which he clearly was not afraid to reveal by his open display of being seen referencing this very controversial "Concept"
Additionally his Piano and Microphone shows used Mandalas, another Mystical "concept" as the visual backdrop to his shows.Mandalas are said to transmit "Healing Energy"
People forget that Prince was ever evolving , by the end of his life its clear that he had explored it all and to shut ones ones mind to that and try and confine him within ONE Dogmatic Religion is simply ignorant...
He himself said, If you want to know me I am in my music..Its all there..
ONE SONG is perhaps the Most Profound of his writings.It is so NOW and appropriate for the NEW Age we are entering..Its a TRUTH what Humanity Needs to hear.
THat and WAY BACK HOME tell us very clearly that finding his was to GOD was Princes beginning middle and end...
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I don't believe in any of the god mumbo jumbo and I think it definitely had a deletrious effect on his music, and to some extent, his career. I understand why someone as supremely talented as he was would search around all the confidence tricksters (which is what all religions are) for some sort of explanation beyond genetics and practice.
I was drawn in by the music, the sound of when doves cry. The sex, watching him play with Apollonia's pussy in Purlpe Rain... sex and music - that's it really!
DMSR!
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Sorry, I didn't realise you'd been appointed semantic protector of the Prince catalogue, I must have missed Dr Funkenberry's tweet. Hamburger, Hot Dog, Root Beer, Pussy | |
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Oh geez, are we not allowed to use his own comments in interviews. He is the one that mentioned chakras in one of his interviews. His songs do matter when it comes to religious beliefs because some of the words could have been grounds to get him removed from certain sects and he didn't sweat it.
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Thanks, Love. That was actually a quote from an article that I somehow neglected to put quotes around. In my defense, it was the middle of the night and while I should have been meditating, last night was an "off" night for me. I wanted to go more in-depth into the 3rd Eye, but it was late at night and I felt somehow that it would not really matter to Baduizm, but that they might accept "concept" better. And the Mandalas! I was at the last two Atlanta concerts and can't believe I didn't think to mention those.
It (Nada, sound) is (begun to be heard as) of ten kinds. The first is Chini (like the sound of that word); the second is Chini-Chini; the third is the sound of bell; the fourth is that of conch; the fifth is that of Tantiri (lute); the sixth is that sound of Tala (cymbals); the seventh is that of flute; the eighth is that of Bheri (drum); the ninth is that of Mridanga (double drum); and the tenth is that of clouds (viz., thunder) ** My addition: "Thunder all through the night, promise to see Jesus in the morning light". Before thou set’st thy foot upon the ladder’s upper rung, the ladder of the mystic sounds, thou hast to hear the voice of thy inner GOD* in seven manners.
And The Bhagavad Gita by Paramahansa Yogananda: | |
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From a 2013 interview with V magazine: So I ask my big question: “How do you, as a religious person, reconcile the religious impulse with what most of your songs are about, which is the sexual one?” Prince bursts out laughing and points to Ramadan. “Ha!” he says. “Now we know what you’re going to write about. We were waiting for your thread.” He clears his throat. “First of all, do you see a difference in religions?” he asks. I say no, suggesting all religions are based on the same idea and then corrupted by their human leaders. “Then what are the wars about?” he asks, unhappy with my answer. “If one religion believes Christ is the king, and another doesn’t, then there’s a difference in religions.” He goes on for a bit, and adds, “we are sensual beings, the way God created us, when you take the shame and taboo away from it,” and continues that religion should be thought of like a force, an electro-magnetic one or like gravity, that puts things in motion. Then he says, “I don’t want to talk about this.” I ask him if he believes in sin. “You have to look at the origin of the word,” he says. “Humans needed a language to describe a rule given from some group from…” He pauses, then says, and this is as I remember it: “Words are tricky. And plus these days I just talk to the folks in the outside world about music. If you were a student and I was teaching you something we could get into that. We can’t do this before a dance party.” And from a 2015 Ebony interview: EBONY: You’ve never had a producer. What made you choose Joshua Welton for Hit N Run: Phase One? Prince: His faith in God really struck a nerve. And you know how you can just feel that something’s gonna work and it feels right, it’s a good fit? I knew the band was going to work, I knew the relationship with him was gonna work. I check people out now to see how faith-based they are and how real they are about it. That goes a long way, I gotta tell you. Because I can trust them. I can give him the key and don’t have to worry. Paisley Park is in your heart
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In the early days as much as fans like to refer to it as spirituality Prince was always talking from a Christian POV. | |
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back in 2000 v- 2001 prince did openly preach that only jehova was the true path to salvation.
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People also forgot that Prince had friendships with Karl Nealon and Bobby Z--Jewish folks.
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No believers of one faith are the same. Even of one sect or church. I have come across a few JW gays and lesbians, for example. According to their own words, they feel ostracised among other JWs, but they don't want to give up their faith, they still believe in the core principles of the religion. full lips, freckles, and upturned nose | |
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http://www.latimes.com/en...story.html
"I've studied Solomon and David now," Prince said, referring to two famous Old Testament lovemen. "[In biblical times] sex was always beautiful. You come to understand that, and then you try to find a woman who can experience that with you."
http://vmagazine.com/arti...sting-now/ He goes on for a bit, and adds, “we are sensual beings, the way God created us, when you take the shame and taboo away from it,” and continues that religion should be thought of like a force, an electro-magnetic one or like gravity, that puts things in motion. Then he says, “I don’t want to talk about this.”
I think you'd be hard pressed to find many religious people who completely adhere to their faith 100%. In fact there are some pretty high profile politicians who are Catholic yet support abortion and gay marriage. From comments Prince made in interviews it sure seems his study of the Bible and belief in God never wavered. [Edited 12/21/16 12:14pm] Paisley Park is in your heart
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He was very clear that nothing can "be in a tie with God", as was suggested earlier. He Was music, from God, and was very clear on this from the beginning. Agreed.
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[Edited 12/21/16 12:32pm] How is that any different than a Catholic who attends church every Sunday but supports abortion and gay marriage (believe me plenty of these Catholics exist)? So Prince didn't adhere to JW teachings when it came to sex. I can think of a lot worse things. Paisley Park is in your heart
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Interesting thread. He did seem to embrace a lot of metaphors and imagery from faiths other than JW/ Christianity. | |
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Prince in essence was a spiritualist. He followed his own spirit with guides into wherever God would take him wather it was through christianity, jehovah, bhuddism or mysticism. He never stopped learning. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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. You are on another planet! Totally brainwashed! . Muslims hate everyone. They loathe woman. They hate animals. They hate equality. But they like having sex with children. . Wake up. Islam is a terrorist organisation. It's days are numbered as it can't be sustained. . Christians values are far reaching and sustainable. | |
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. Exactly!! . People are trying to use Prince to fulfil their own agendas. . Luckily most of us aren't easily brainwashed by extremists. .
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. Exactly! . There seems to be a lot of brainwashing going on. . Our thoughts should be with the families in Berlin who once more are victim to Mickey Mouse religious beliefs. . | |
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darkroman said:
. Exactly!! . People are trying to use Prince to fulfil their own agendas. . Luckily most of us aren't easily brainwashed by extremists. .
Well I wouldn't consider Hindu to be extremist. Paisley Park is in your heart
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I'd recommend The Bhagavad Gita: God Talks with Arjuna by Paramahansa Yogananda. Beautifully written and the commentary on the texts are very in-depth. I've read it numerous times over the years, since I first received it as a gift in 1998, right after I joined The Holy River chatroom. | |
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