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Bootleg Prince Album 'The Dawn' Fashioned a Language From the Unsayable

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Reply #1 posted 12/13/16 12:58am

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(The compiler of The Dawn is anonymous, presumably out of legal anxiety.)

He's not.

Only months before The Dawn's unstable mass yielded Come, Prince changed his alias to the "Love Symbol" in protest against Warner.

Yeah, only 14 months (sigh).

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I also wish the review would make it clearer that the project took liberties with what The Dawn would have been if released in 1994.


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Reply #2 posted 12/13/16 2:29am

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databank said:

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I also wish the review would make it clearer that the project took liberties with what The Dawn would have been if released in 1994.



Massively. I love The Dawn collection so much as it represents my favourite era but I don't kid myself that it is any way, shape or form what prince would have released with that title.

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Reply #3 posted 12/14/16 12:57am

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Wonder if DAWN will ever see the light of day?...

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Reply #4 posted 12/14/16 3:37am

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rap said:

Wonder if DAWN will ever see the light of day?...

If Prince ever finalized a configuration of this I would sell my soul to hear it!

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Reply #5 posted 12/14/16 8:04am

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Wait, Prince really was toying around with an album called The Dawn in the early '90s? I thought that was a musical movie idea in the 80's. You know like in the original lyrics of Elephants and Flowers.
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Reply #6 posted 12/14/16 8:20am

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ufoclub said:

Wait, Prince really was toying around with an album called The Dawn in the early '90s? I thought that was a musical movie idea in the 80's. You know like in the original lyrics of Elephants and Flowers.

According to Princevault a triple album comprising mostly of material that would end-up on Come and TGE, with possibly some additional songs that ended-up on COTS, C&D, TVOF4S and Emancipation as well as other unreleased material from those days was considered and most likely assembled in late 1993 or maybe as late as early 1994, but the tracklist is unknown. Boris' version comprises tracks recorded as late as early 1996 so it can't possibly reflect that project, but it'd have been something in that vein.

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Reply #7 posted 12/14/16 2:40pm

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databank said:

rap said:

Wonder if DAWN will ever see the light of day?...

If Prince ever finalized a configuration of this I would sell my soul to hear it!

Of all his projects this would have to be the Holy Grail. Pressumably, none of the intended tracks have been heard.

Wasn't The Divine intended for inclusion? He also talked about DAWN around the time of Emancipation in an interview with Rolling Stone.

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Reply #8 posted 12/14/16 3:25pm

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databank said:

ufoclub said:

Wait, Prince really was toying around with an album called The Dawn in the early '90s? I thought that was a musical movie idea in the 80's. You know like in the original lyrics of Elephants and Flowers.

According to Princevault a triple album comprising mostly of material that would end-up on Come and TGE, with possibly some additional songs that ended-up on COTS, C&D, TVOF4S and Emancipation as well as other unreleased material from those days was considered and most likely assembled in late 1993 or maybe as late as early 1994, but the tracklist is unknown.

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They also have a page about The Vault I, II & III even though there is zero evidence that those albums ever existed outside of a mention in a press release.

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Reply #9 posted 12/14/16 8:55pm

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databank said:

According to Princevault a triple album comprising mostly of material that would end-up on Come and TGE, with possibly some additional songs that ended-up on COTS, C&D, TVOF4S and Emancipation as well as other unreleased material from those days was considered and most likely assembled in late 1993 or maybe as late as early 1994, but the tracklist is unknown.

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They also have a page about The Vault I, II & III even though there is zero evidence that those albums ever existed outside of a mention in a press release.

Well a press release is, for one thing, an official source. It would be absurd to overlook the info.

As for The Dawn I believe their source is the Nilsen research, though I remember that as early as late 93 or early 94 rumor was among fans that this 3 CD set was in the works. What I'm certain of is that Princevault did not invent it and that if they mention itit must be based on more than a mere rumor.

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Reply #10 posted 12/15/16 1:22am

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databank said:

(The compiler of The Dawn is anonymous, presumably out of legal anxiety.)

He's not.

Only months before The Dawn's unstable mass yielded Come, Prince changed his alias to the "Love Symbol" in protest against Warner.

Yeah, only 14 months (sigh).

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I also wish the review would make it clearer that the project took liberties with what The Dawn would have been if released in 1994.


It is a lovely review by somebody who clearly adores Prince's music, with some cool graphics - and here he gets slammed for minor factual inadequancy.... Only on Prince.org

Village Voice is not the Washington Post... biggrin

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Reply #11 posted 12/15/16 9:08am

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Krid said:

databank said:

(The compiler of The Dawn is anonymous, presumably out of legal anxiety.)

He's not.

Only months before The Dawn's unstable mass yielded Come, Prince changed his alias to the "Love Symbol" in protest against Warner.

Yeah, only 14 months (sigh).

.

I also wish the review would make it clearer that the project took liberties with what The Dawn would have been if released in 1994.


It is a lovely review by somebody who clearly adores Prince's music, with some cool graphics - and here he gets slammed for minor factual inadequancy.... Only on Prince.org

Village Voice is not the Washington Post... biggrin

I know, u're right. I'm just deeply attached to facts and I believe them to be the basis of his job - he's a profesionnal journalist after all isn't he? But yeah, it was an act of love and I was a little unfair I'll gladly give u that.

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