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KISS (Extended Version) - the voices at the end - who's voices are they? I was lucky enough to receive this song as an advance promotional copy on vinyl a few weeks before it hit the airwaves, and was in shock when I heard the "new" sound this single offered. I also knew early on that this song would be huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge when it was released. | |
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I almost forgot, here's a link to the lyrics, scroll to the end: | |
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http://princevault.com/in...title=Kiss Prince 4Ever. | |
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Seinfeld went on the air in 1989. Kiss was 1986. but I see your point | |
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I was thinking Seinfeld started in 86?
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Sources say Jill Jones, but it sounds more like Sheila to me. Her voice is pretty unique, IMO. And with her and Prince's synergy at that time (remember, she was not only working on albums with him, but playing on stuff like "Pop Life", "Alexa De Paris", "Life Can Be So Nice", and "Venus De Milo"), it'd made sense that she was in the mix even more. But maybe it is Jill Jones. Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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i always guessed it was Susannah as i dont know or recongnize her voice I will take my place, In the great below | |
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Prince!! I will take my place, In the great below | |
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FragileUndertow said: i always guessed it was Susannah as i dont know or recongnize her voice --/ I think it is Susan. | |
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. Look, if you're going to make up bullshit, don't pretend that a show that debuted in 1989 was featured on a 12" released in 1986. Oh, and the show is called Seinfeld. © Bart Van Hemelen
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TrivialPursuit said: Sources say Jill Jones, but it sounds more like Sheila to me. Her voice is pretty unique, IMO. And with her and Prince's synergy at that time (remember, she was not only working on albums with him, but playing on stuff like "Pop Life", "Alexa De Paris", "Life Can Be So Nice", and "Venus De Milo"), it'd made sense that she was in the mix even more. But maybe it is Jill Jones. Jill was still very much in the mix during that time. Her album was still being fleshed out then. She was also in France during some of the filming of UTCM. | |
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Be nice. | |
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Well aren't we the gallant charmer?
There's a difference between someone making a simple error, and someone 'making up bullshit'. Learn this and you will go far in life.
Chill out, sweetcheeks, you'll give yourself a heart attack.
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It's clearly Jill. And yes, they are parodizing a kvetching older Jewish couple. I'd say the it's a bit more on the Eddie Murphy routine-side, rather than the Costanza side. Given that the remix was made in late 1985, it obviously isn't referencing Seinfeld (which had a mostly ignored pilot in July 1989, and didn't find mainstream success until at least late 1990), nor is it a particularly inventive comedic trope. It may be good-humored, but not exactly politically correct (although what was in the first half of the 1980s). .
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Anyway, it sounds like Mr. Moneyminder from "Jughead". So if you know who Mr. Moneyminder is, you know who the man in "Kiss" is! | |
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Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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That is Jill Jones on the extended version (talking and singing)
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. Draw your own inferences for how frequently or intensely JJ was in P's hair or music during rougly this time period: . (Not an Exhaustive List): ____________________________________________________
May XX, 1985 (Specific Dates Unknown)
May 10, 1985
May XX, 1985 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)
May 24, 1985
May 26, 1985
May 29, 1985
May 30, 1985
June 2 ,1985
Summer 1985 (Specific Recording Dates Unkown)
Late 1985 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)
December XX, 1985 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)
December 23, 1985
January 8, 1986
January XX, 1986 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)
February 17, 1986
February XX, 1986 (Specific Dates Unknown)
March 27, 1986
May XX, 1986 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown; Further Work Summer/Fall 1986)
July XX, 1986 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown
August XX, 1986 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)
Summer 1986 (Specific Recoding Dates)
September XX,1986 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)
October 11, 1986
October 30, 1986
November 12, 1986
November 22, 1986
Early/Mid 1987 (Specific Recording Dates Unknown)
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. Addenda: . Rumors of a Jill Jones 1986 vocal version of 'Wouldn't U Love 2 Love Me?' (later released by Taja Sevelle, as with 'If I Could Get Your Attention'), uncredited backing vocal work on 'Feel U Up' (1986); 'Stella and Charles' (May 26, 1985), 'Polka-Dot Tiger' (May 28, 1985), and 'Zebra with the Blonde Hair' (May 29, 1986) have been speculated to be (at a minimum) instrumentals recorded for potential use on the first JJ album. It was previously speculated that 'Rebirth of the Flesh', and 'Rockhard in a Funky Place', both recorded October 28, 1986, featured Jill Jones on backing vocals (alongside Susannah Melvoin), but that claim appears to have been more recently discredited. Still, no official attribution regarding the participants has yet been provided, nor has an authoritative source come forward. .
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Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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Goddman you guys
its fucking Jill Jones and Prince
please dont listen to The Walk or the beginning of Chili Sauce
your heads will explode | |
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Great list Also Jill is featured on Vanity 6's classic Vibrator (1983) "OMG, look at the size of that thing" [Edited 12/2/16 18:58pm] Keep Calm & Listen To Prince | |
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Yeah that sounds like Jill. I was listening to Movie Star (with Susannah) and Kiss extended version and the female voices are so different. So yeah I knew it was Jill on the Kiss but when someone said it was Susannah I have to hear those two songs. | |
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Wow thanks That also explained why she was super pissed with that Facebook comment she made about feeling excluding from some of Prince's 80s associates and proteges. She sung over the female weakness in almost every track. Jill need to write a book. Zebra with the Blonde Hair definately was about Wannabe Marlyn Monroe Jill and her biracial ancestry. | |
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The list began in 85, is about half in 86, and ends in 87. So, if you're interested in 1986/1987, there it is. It's not about before that. (and yeah, I know imprimis could respond, but that just seemed like a silly complaint in response to someone actually providing what it seems like had been asked for). But since the discussion in this thread is about the extended version of Kiss, which was probably remixed (as the list said) in late 85 (or at the latest very very early 86) what on earth does Sign o the Times have to do with anything--especially since the as-released album is largely a break from anything involving much of anybody from the old scene (beyond some horns)--Prince dropped most people's contributions as he dropped the Dream Factory tracks. Heck, I had the 12'' of Kiss on my record player before most of the recordings on this list even happened--so maybe the list could be faulted for covering material that's too late to be relevant? It's almost like questioning whether Rosie's on Daddy Pop because she wasn't on featured on Come--so it must be Mayte. Or maybe Tony. Keep up, man. | |
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i read somewhere that it was dr. fink's mom and i think the dad is prince. don't know it for a fact though, the voice does sound new york jewish. | |
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I don't know about the woman - I'd always assumed it was Jill, but how anyone can listen to that male voice and not know that it's Prince, 2000%, I just do not understand.
Of course, it's Prince. Listen to the male voice. It's easy to tell, because, errrrrrr, that's Prince's voice. | |
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. Around approximately mid/late July 1986, he increasingly distanced himself from other contributors in general (he uses mostly Susannah Melvoin, Eric Leeds and Atlanta Bliss to embellish his own album material, where desired or as necessary, from this point forward, until the time Susannah moved out of the Galpin Blvd house for good in January 1987, at which point Cat/Bonnie/Sheila enter as visible contributors) . Revolution Frees Lisa And Wendy September 13, 1987 | DENNIS HUNT . "There was one obvious indication that Prince was about to make some kind of change. "He had been working more on his own than usual," Coleman said about the recording sessions last year for Prince's latest album, "Sign 'O' the Times." "We weren't with him in the studio as much." . Yes, this is all information that virtually everyone here knows. . However, at the same time, and regardless, it doesn't seem as though Jill was featured on any released album of his own, aside from '1999', 'Automatic', 'Free', and 'Lady Cab Driver' on 1999, and a credited backing vocal attribution on 'It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night' on SOTT. (I am excluding B-Side, outtake, protege, and remix appearances) . If you were to use her presence on his albums, from his career prior to 1991, to gauge the familiarity of their relationship, or her intersection with his work, they'd seem nearly to be strangers. . [Edited 12/3/16 5:45am] | |
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Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors. | |
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