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Thread started 11/29/16 9:56am

2freaky4church
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Prince4Ever debuts a sad 80 on Billboard.

I guess the public got over him dying. Metallica number one which is good.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #1 posted 11/29/16 9:58am

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We can no longer blame Prince for bad business savvy. The brain dead public just does not care. We do peeps.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #2 posted 11/29/16 9:58am

Milty2

2freaky4church1 said:

I guess the public got over him dying. Metallica number one which is good.

Out of curiosity, where did David Bowie's Legacy debut?

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Reply #3 posted 11/29/16 10:12am

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I think it's worth remembering that P passed 7 months ago and his Greatest Hits then scaled the top of the charts...

Unfortunately, for all intents and purposes, Prince4Ever is a rehash..Maybe if it contained entirely different tracks (and some more unreleased songs) it would have done better but, as far as the average music-lover is concerned, the perception is that they'd already bought this album 7 months ago, why buy it again (albeit with a change of artwork)?

Truly, I think Warners missed a trick with this, I really do.

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Reply #4 posted 11/29/16 10:18am

kepurplehunter

Oh Damm Prince4ever should've been all new music not all the ones we have n tease all of us with One Song Really Tho WB Stop n Tidal ....
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Reply #5 posted 11/29/16 10:19am

kepurplehunter

Oh Damm Prince4ever should've been all new music not all the ones we have n tease all of us with One Song Really Tho WB Stop n Tidal ....
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Reply #6 posted 11/29/16 10:20am

kepurplehunter

Typo in the post lol
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Reply #7 posted 11/29/16 10:22am

endiadj

I never saw any advertising for it anywhere.
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Reply #8 posted 11/29/16 10:26am

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[Edited 12/3/16 11:49am]
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Reply #9 posted 11/29/16 10:27am

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I came back to edit my previous thoughts. This compilation didn't have much time to sell before the charts, and I actually do think it's a good idea to put out a somewhat well-known hits record with some other things on it too, for beginner listeners.
[Edited 12/3/16 11:52am]
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Reply #10 posted 11/29/16 10:43am

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I didn't buy it (broke) n prolly won't when I get sum $ confused. I suppose I agree w/ gp in that I have all these songs times over (including Moonbeam Levels music). Gonna start saving up 4 PR Deluxe tho (n that last Kendrick effort iac love) lol drool. Hope it doesn't deter them from future releases sad.

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Reply #11 posted 11/29/16 10:44am

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2freaky4church1 said:

I guess the public got over him dying. Metallica number one which is good.


---It is a rehash and nothing was done to promote. WB and their stupidity. They should have put out the remaster first.
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Reply #12 posted 11/29/16 10:48am

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Let's not forget that it only had 3 days to count for this week's chart. A foolish move on Warner's part.

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Reply #13 posted 11/29/16 10:52am

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Some people on the org think prince was still a mega-seller. He was not. Yes his fanbase bought his new albums, but those albums dropped always quickly off the charts. His fanbase isnt gonna buy 4ever (some might) they have all the tracks.
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Reply #14 posted 11/29/16 10:56am

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Milty2 said:

2freaky4church1 said:

I guess the public got over him dying. Metallica number one which is good.

Out of curiosity, where did David Bowie's Legacy debut?


#78

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Reply #15 posted 11/29/16 11:06am

morningsong

Well, if this was planned release, as I keep hearing, then it was just a timing thing so whatever. I'm not worried about it. I don't have a copy yet. I thought I'd be able to get it in stores (I miss that experience), but since I couldn't find it before the holiday rush, I'm not even going to try to get out there now. Amazon here I come.

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Reply #16 posted 11/29/16 11:20am

SoulAlive

Warners aren't doing enough to promote this project.They should have treated "Moonbeam Levels" as a big deal......they could have easily put together some kind of video for it (using older footage,of course) or at the very least,release a lyric video for it! mad

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Reply #17 posted 11/29/16 11:27am

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nextedition said:

Some people on the org think prince was still a mega-seller. He was not. Yes his fanbase bought his new albums, but those albums dropped always quickly off the charts. His fanbase isnt gonna buy 4ever (some might) they have all the tracks.

-- He was not a mega selling artist because he was not affiliated with a major lable thus no airplay. He goes back to a major lable and receives no promotion.
I hope fulfills whatever contractual obligations Prince had with WB as quickly as possible. If these morons get their hands on vault material we will get 10 greatest compilations.
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Reply #18 posted 11/29/16 11:31am

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2freaky4church1 said:

I guess the public got over him dying. Metallica number one which is good.

I made a thread already about the PRINCE 4EVER album sales...

And that is not the first week sales, only 3 days sales. The real first week total will be up this week.///

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Reply #19 posted 11/29/16 11:32am

rogifan

Dibblekins said:

I think it's worth remembering that P passed 7 months ago and his Greatest Hits then scaled the top of the charts...

Unfortunately, for all intents and purposes, Prince4Ever is a rehash..Maybe if it contained entirely different tracks (and some more unreleased songs) it would have done better but, as far as the average music-lover is concerned, the perception is that they'd already bought this album 7 months ago, why buy it again (albeit with a change of artwork)?

Truly, I think Warners missed a trick with this, I really do.


Agreed. Plus I hate the title (it's fine as a Twitter hashtag but not for an album title). I also don't like that they included two songs Prince most likely wouldn't have which then required a parental advisory sticker. I already have his greatest hits CD so felt no need to purchase this.
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Reply #20 posted 11/29/16 11:33am

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2freaky4church1 said:

I guess the public got over him dying. Metallica number one which is good.

These are 3 days sales...

Already a thread on this:

http://prince.org/msg/7/435657

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Reply #21 posted 11/29/16 11:38am

rogifan

laurarichardson said:

nextedition said:

Some people on the org think prince was still a mega-seller. He was not. Yes his fanbase bought his new albums, but those albums dropped always quickly off the charts. His fanbase isnt gonna buy 4ever (some might) they have all the tracks.

-- He was not a mega selling artist because he was not affiliated with a major lable thus no airplay. He goes back to a major lable and receives no promotion.
I hope fulfills whatever contractual obligations Prince had with WB as quickly as possible. If these morons get their hands on vault material we will get 10 greatest compilations.

What exactly was the point of this and I wonder why Prince even signed off on it. It seems like a completely pointless release. Like others have said non-die hard fans already bought his greatest hits back in April and die hards would have no interest in something like this. Stupid.
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Reply #22 posted 11/29/16 11:44am

1Sasha

I was expecting a full page ad in The New York Times arts section - I didn't see anything. Nothing on TV. Where is the promotion for this set? It isn't aimed at people who have most of his albums, but how can it sell if consumers don't know it's out there?

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Reply #23 posted 11/29/16 11:52am

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2freaky4church1 said:

I guess the public got over him dying. Metallica number one which is good.

Remember, it was released on Tuesday instead of the industry standard Friday, meaning it charted with only 3 days of sales instead of 7. Also, the album chart incorporates streams from YouTube and Spotify now, and the album isn't available there. It debuted at #48 on the sales-only chart.

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The midweek release was a poor strategy.

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Reply #24 posted 11/29/16 12:14pm

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There's no real mystery as to why it's not selling well. Anybody could have predicted that outcome. The general public who aren't too familiar with his music but showed some interest after his death would have already downloaded what they want from torrent sites and such. They have no real need for this type of release.
And Prince fans, though I can only speak for myself here, aren't going to buy a 40 track album of songs they already own. It's illogical. Why would anyone buy something they already have. The only interesting part of this collection to me is Moonbeam Levels but I already had a near identical version to the one that's included on 4ever. I don't think it represents good value for money to buy a whole album for one song. So I downloaded it. As I suspect a lot of Prince fans did.
Basically, this type of release is for collectors or people who must have everything. Which, for any artist, would be a small amount of people.

Now, if they put out a whole album of studio outtakes in perfect sound quality, I'll buy that. I'd pay good money for it. He's supposed to have had several unreleased albums in the vault. Focus on releasing them. Promote them as "new" Prince albums. They'd sell quite a bit. Start a remastered series where every remaster includes a second or third disc of outtakes or alternate versions. I'd buy that. But don't expect people to pay for songs they've already bought years ago.
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Reply #25 posted 11/29/16 12:21pm

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SoulAlive said:

they could have easily put together some kind of video for it (using older footage,of course) or at the very least,release a lyric video for it! mad


omfg shocked

Oh, hell no!!! The last time that happened, we got an extremely stupid video for "When 2 R In Love," with the closed captions typing the wrong words. Um, no... no videos please!

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Reply #26 posted 11/29/16 12:22pm

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rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:
-- He was not a mega selling artist because he was not affiliated with a major lable thus no airplay. He goes back to a major lable and receives no promotion. I hope fulfills whatever contractual obligations Prince had with WB as quickly as possible. If these morons get their hands on vault material we will get 10 greatest compilations.
What exactly was the point of this and I wonder why Prince even signed off on it. It seems like a completely pointless release. Like others have said non-die hard fans already bought his greatest hits back in April and die hards would have no interest in something like this. Stupid.

It was part of the deal to get back the masters. Giving up something to get something. I suspect he wanted to get those masters back badly for him to do business with this knobs again.

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Reply #27 posted 11/29/16 12:31pm

rogifan

laurarichardson said:



rogifan said:


laurarichardson said:
-- He was not a mega selling artist because he was not affiliated with a major lable thus no airplay. He goes back to a major lable and receives no promotion. I hope fulfills whatever contractual obligations Prince had with WB as quickly as possible. If these morons get their hands on vault material we will get 10 greatest compilations.

What exactly was the point of this and I wonder why Prince even signed off on it. It seems like a completely pointless release. Like others have said non-die hard fans already bought his greatest hits back in April and die hards would have no interest in something like this. Stupid.

It was part of the deal to get back the masters. Giving up something to get something. I suspect he wanted to get those masters back badly for him to do business with this knobs again.




Honestly I only care about this to the extent whomever was involved is also involved with the vault. If it's the same people then I'm worried.
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Reply #28 posted 11/29/16 1:36pm

khelm9

2freaky4church1 said:

I guess the public got over him dying. Metallica number one which is good.

"Hardwired" is phenomenal!

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Reply #29 posted 11/29/16 1:38pm

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because the general public really cares about Moonbeam Levels and Girls & Boys single edit? They already bought a best of with all the hits back in April. This is getting the chart position it deserves.

[Edited 11/29/16 13:40pm]

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