XxAxX said:

laurarichardson said:

XxAxX said: -/-- Why did you post all this stuff? Prince not showing up to the Tidal concert means nothing. Do you realize that just a few weeks before he died he sent live tracks to Tidal. Do you think someone was controlling his brain and made his send those live tracks? He wanted to get upfront money from streaming services just like the services give up front money to record labels. He got that deal from Tidal/Aspire. The Ebony article was pulled but Ebony printed the article in full in there tribute edition in June so you can go read the article if you want to. Once again people need to stop taking their hate for Jay-z and transposing it on to Tidal he us just a large shareholder not the sole owner of the company. He also made an offer to be the administer of Prince music not buy the masters. [Edited 12/21/16 3:46am]

wtf???? laura, please read what is posted before reacting with anger okay?? wtf is that part you tossed in about mind control? weird much???

the bolded bit above is my point. based on threads here at prince.org, it seems like prince was doing work with tidal on a project-by-project basis. that's what the threads here seem to indicate.

so i think it goes to show that prince never simply handed JayZ his entire catalog the way JayZ claims prince did.

again this is only my opinion as i clearly stated above. i am allowed to think differently from you and post my differing opinion here, right? please don't attack me for expressing my opinion.

and remember your opinions are also based upon speculation, no matter how strongly you believe yourself to be correct.

there was no need for you to make shit up and toss it in gratuitously like that bit about mind control.

that sort of behavior is what makes prince.org so ugly. everyone here is convinced their point of view is the only correct point of view and then resort to attacking others who think differently.

i notice moderator June7 had to snip a few of your posts earlier in this thread so please refrain from going there again.

prince org is not and never was supposed to be about who can hit the hardest, it was supposed to be a discussion forum, for people to discuss various ideas.

just live and let live.

besides, until actual facts come out and JayZ proves up his claims, all of this is speculation here anyway, even on your part.

thanks.

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1) Stop taking everything as a personal attack I am not mad at you or anyone. I simply had no idea what the purpose of your post was.

2) He was doing business with Tidal on a project basis. Don’t you think including the rest of the catalogue was one of the projects? How would Tidal have received the files if they did not get them from Prince? It would be great if someone would answer that question.

3) I made the comment about mind control because it is obvious that Prince wanted to send material to Tidal. He sent material to them a week before he died. Was someone else controlling his mind? If people on this board really think he did not intend for the additional albums to ever appear on Tidal then the implication is that he was not in control of his thinking when he did nothing but talk about the Tidal service in a positive manner the entire time he was involved with them.

4) There is nothing ugly about Prince.org except that when people get asked direct questions they refused to answer them and then get upset because they were asked questions in the first place or some point they made was questioned. Who wants to live in a world were no one questions anything.

laura, without intending to insult you i'm not sure where you're going with that post?

but hey i'm out. got work to get on with. happy winter solstice day!

1Sasha said:

There may be some people on the org who know intimate details about Prince's business dealings and all that has happened since he was found eight months ago today. I sure don't. I don't think it is worth arguing about. The only true facts are Prince died and the immediate cause of death was a Fentanyl overdose. We are all speculating and therefore all opinions should be welcome and reviewed, not trashed because they do not fit with a particular mindset. If somebody reading this has THE FACTS, then write them here for all to see. Otherwise ...

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XxAxX said:

laura, without intending to insult you i'm not sure where you're going with that post?

but hey i'm out. got work to get on with. happy winter solstice day!

"so i think it goes to show that prince never simply handed JayZ his entire catalog the way JayZ claims prince did."

I do not agree with this statement I explained in bullet 2 and 3. but let us just agree to disagree.

Happy Holidays

XxAxX said:

1Sasha said:

There may be some people on the org who know intimate details about Prince's business dealings and all that has happened since he was found eight months ago today. I sure don't. I don't think it is worth arguing about. The only true facts are Prince died and the immediate cause of death was a Fentanyl overdose. We are all speculating and therefore all opinions should be welcome and reviewed, not trashed because they do not fit with a particular mindset. If somebody reading this has THE FACTS, then write them here for all to see. Otherwise ...

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Homicide investigation is also factual. One that is still open after 8 months.

XxAxX said:

mjscarousal said:

Lovejunky said:

If there is TRUTH in The Rap..then Maybe JAYZ does have access to Princes Masters..and in having them, it would be obvious that he got them from ONLY ONE Source .

If Prince Gave JAYZ access and They are safe and sound with JAY Z (though I cant imagine that Phaedra doest have some control somwhere) the this is really not about anyone else except Phaedra and JAYZ coming to some Mutual understnding where SHE is satisfied that his wishes are being carried out (becasue SHE would know more than anyone ) and JAYZ is satisfied that HIS agreement with Prince is Honoured !

Also Maybe Breamer and "The Estate" are not sure what exactly Prince wanted and the thought that it may all be up to Phaedra and Jay Z is beyond them ????

Jay Z is a pathological liar, he does not own Prince masters. He is a poser in the highest form. He lies a lot about his business ventures and what he owns. He was rapping that he own the NETS NBA team and dude only owns 1.5% stake in the team. He is FRAUD just like his annoying wife.

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Attention whores and inflated ego! LOL

Anyone who thinks that JayZ is an honest and decent man is quite puzzling to me. But hey, that's just my opinion.

oliviacamron said:

Laura, how are you sure that Prince cancelling the Tidal concert at the last minute six months prior to his murder means nothing ?

Why do you think it has any bearing on anything? He continued to provide content to Tidal right up to the week before he died. Do you remember what Andrian said about Prince canceling concerts and apperances at the last minute. He did this all the time and he could have been due to health issues or the fact that he would not have fit in with the other artist at that show.

i'm starting to wonder if the people on this site are robots or just live under rocks or just don't know shit about afro-american culture. 1, it's common knowledge where and what jay z came from and who and what he used to be/do. most rappers start out as that and come from that. 2, what does any of this have to do with Tidal and Prince? absolutely nothing. Prince liked, trusted and respected Hov up until his death so i don't understand the constant bitching and moaning when it comes to Tidal and Jay Z. You don't know him or what kind of person he is. it's pretty annoying and disgusting. Hell, most dont even know Prince and yet everybody seems to know what he thought, why and how. that's just weird as shit.

If you do not like someone, how is that annoying or disgusting?

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Everyone has their own views/opinions of someone. A lot of people like JayZ and his music, and there are plenty who do not like him.

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If you like JayZ or don't like him, I'm fine with either. Personally, I don't care for the guy. Just my opinion.

tab32792 said:

i'm starting to wonder if the people on this site are robots or just live under rocks or just don't know shit about afro-american culture. 1, it's common knowledge where and what jay z came from and who and what he used to be/do. most rappers start out as that and come from that. 2, what does any of this have to do with Tidal and Prince? absolutely nothing. Prince liked, trusted and respected Hov up until his death so i don't understand the constant bitching and moaning when it comes to Tidal and Jay Z. You don't know him or what kind of person he is. it's pretty annoying and disgusting. Hell, most dont even know Prince and yet everybody seems to know what he thought, why and how. that's just weird as shit.

okay it's embarrassing but i stand corrected. i'm sorry i was crass enough to judge another person without ever meeting him based on gossip and years old information. i apologize for that isht. my bad.

laurarichardson said:

XxAxX said:

oliviacamron said:

laurarichardson said:

Why do you think it has any bearing on anything? He continued to provide content to Tidal right up to the week before he died. Do you remember what Andrian said about Prince canceling concerts and apperances at the last minute. He did this all the time and he could have been due to health issues or the fact that he would not have fit in with the other artist at that show.

So Prince cancels at his own concerts but did Prince usually cancel on someone else's concert. Do you think JayZ might have been embarrassed? Wasn't Tidal struggling as a business? If you tell someone your going to do this thing for them and change your mind at the last minute, I think they would be upset with you. I'm not saying it's the case, just possible. I know one thing, Jay z putting up all that Prince music after Prince died, then taking it back down after the lawsuit is very suspicious to me. As far as Prince still putting music up on Tidal before he died, well sometimes people are still doing business together while one is planning the murder of the other

I don't recall Prince being on the bill of someone's else concert unless he just dropped in as a guest.

We don't know if Prince told Jay-Z he was even going to be at the concert? All of the Prince music on Tidal has not been taken down. In fact somethings are hard to find because their search button is screwy. Once again if both Breamer and Roc-Nation agree about the 90 day deal then all of the music is free to go on other platforms however, this has not happend and the bulk of the music is still not taken down from the Tidal site. Please also explain how and why Jay-Z would have Prince killed?

laurarichardson said:

Just to add....I believe Olivia and other's have stated the following as well. JayZ is affiliated with WB (Roc Nation). Yes, Tidal is it's own company, but let's not forget that JayZ does business with several other affiliations/companies and he is involved with WB, whether you want to believe it or not. Everything all ties in together and there is a 'connection'.....if you open your eyes. Just saying.

XxAxX said:

XxAxX said:

Hey guys I'm so sorry if I missed this in the thread already - but is the One Night Alone studio album off Tidal now? I tried to buy it today and can't find it but Tidal is so wacked out it might still be on there and just being a pain.

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Anyone know offhand/have a link to the Tidal page for it?

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Thanks for that - sorry again if this was covered.

26ten said:

26ten said:

Hey guys I'm so sorry if I missed this in the thread already - but is the One Night Alone studio album off Tidal now? I tried to buy it today and can't find it but Tidal is so wacked out it might still be on there and just being a pain.

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Anyone know offhand/have a link to the Tidal page for it?

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Thanks for that - sorry again if this was covered.

At one point the Exodus was missing and then it came back so I have no fucking idea what they are doing. They have worst search button. I actually had a CD copy of the Exodus made since it kept disappering.

26ten said:

Hey guys I'm so sorry if I missed this in the thread already - but is the One Night Alone studio album off Tidal now? I tried to buy it today and can't find it but Tidal is so wacked out it might still be on there and just being a pain.

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Anyone know offhand/have a link to the Tidal page for it?

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Thanks for that - sorry again if this was covered.

I subscribe to Tidal streaming service and have purchased many albums from them. I don’t see One Night Alone on Tidal right now either, but as someone else mentioned on Tidal things come and go.

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However, I’ve found that rather than searching in the Tidal Store, where it seems you can never find what you want, I go to the streaming service to find the album number of what I want to buy.

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Search for what you want then get the album number from the url. Copy and past the album number into the store url and you usually can find it for purchase.

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For example: I looked for RaveIn2 on in the store without any luck. I found it in the streaming service --- //listen.tidal.com/album/61534686’

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Copy ‘album/61534686’ and add it to the store url: --- //tidal.com/us/store/

to create --- //tidal.com/us/store/album/61534686

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The album was for sale, I found and purchased it using this method.

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BTW, not going to get into the whole Jayz, Tidal, and Prince discussion. But regarding Tidal - I will say, Tidal has fantastic customer service. I had two issues over the course of the last year and each time I sent an email to customer support and they got back to me within a day and resolved the issues quickly both times (and they followed up a few days later to make sure that everything was ok).

Hope this helps.

DD55 said:

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

MJS: Great find! Thanks for sharing that info and Pic! Interesting to know that Tidal is owned by a white man and run/operated by white people. I didn't think that JayZ had the business smarts to start-up a company all on his own. He obviously had a lot of help!

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And, what's with the people who are flashing the "666" sign?

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Did you miss what I wrote about him being a large shareholder? How do you think people become wealthy? They buy into business that already exsist.

That is not what you said previously. You said that Prince was probably interested in working with Jay Z because he was enthused about the idea of supporting a "Black Owned Business" and clearly based on the receipts and facts I posted, TIDAL is obviously not a Black owned business despite the perception and lie Jay Z tried to promote. Again, Jay Z is FULL of bullshit and he lied to Prince.

[Edited 12/27/16 6:36am]

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I agree! I'm a real stickler when it comes to people's character. A person's actions speak the TRUTH. I agree that Prince was taken advantage of. When he gave that interview (I forget with who), he got the figures wrong on how many people subscribe to Spotify vs. Tidal. Maybe he was just being vague and was just picking a number, I dunno. I think Prince was a very emotional guy, and he probably felt he could trust JayZ at the time. Well, we will just have to sit back and see how this all plays out.

I don't think anyone took advantage of Prince. He taking those drugs I believe he knew the risk.

HUH? This is absolutely a ridiculous remark to make. This has nothing to do with Jay Z misleading and taking advantage of Prince and its quite evident he did this to other artists which is why he is being sued by a number of other artists, not just Prince. Again, I it very questionable you strongly defend Jay Z, even to the point you would insist Prince is at fault because he was on drugs?? Very strange for a Prince fan to say...

cloveringold85 said:

mjscarousal said:

Character is indeed everything. Prince talked highly of Jay Z because he trusted him and believed in him (although he was misled by Jay Z). He probably lied to Prince and told him that he owned TIDAL although he doesnt. Jay Z is a clown. I feel its natural for any fan to become emotional if they feel someone they admire has been used or taken advantage of.

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I agree! I'm a real stickler when it comes to people's character. A person's actions speak the TRUTH. I agree that Prince was taken advantage of. When he gave that interview (I forget with who), he got the figures wrong on how many people subscribe to Spotify vs. Tidal. Maybe he was just being vague and was just picking a number, I dunno. I think Prince was a very emotional guy, and he probably felt he could trust JayZ at the time. Well, we will just have to sit back and see how this all plays out.

Prince was misled and lied to by Jay Z and TIDAL, this is quite evident at this point and who ever disagrees are in denial. I believe the truth will win in the end. The truth will eventually come out.

XxAxX said:

mjscarousal said:

Character is indeed everything. Prince talked highly of Jay Z because he trusted him and believed in him (although he was misled by Jay Z). He probably lied to Prince and told him that he owned TIDAL although he doesnt. Jay Z is a clown. I feel its natural for any fan to become emotional if they feel someone they admire has been used or taken advantage of.

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