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Thread started 11/09/16 1:09pm

Astasheiks

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Is there any Jams on the Xpectation Album?

Any good dance grooves on this Album or slow jam?

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Reply #1 posted 11/09/16 1:47pm

TrivialPursuit

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While I just hated Prince's jazzy shit around that time, and especially this album, I've grown to quite enjoy the record as a whole. It's good background music, it's not jarring or crass. I'm not sure anyone is cutting a rug to any of those songs though. It ain't that type of party, hunty.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #2 posted 11/10/16 11:54am

Astasheiks

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I see, thanks for the info.

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Reply #3 posted 11/10/16 2:34pm

DarkKnight1

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I havent listened to that in a loooooong time. I need to revisit. Same with News and Cnote

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Reply #4 posted 11/10/16 5:38pm

dacca

I reckon xogenous is a sweet jam, but don't know if there's much there in terms of dance stuff
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Reply #5 posted 11/10/16 5:44pm

dacca

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I reckon xogenous is a sweet jam, but don't know if there's much there in terms of dance stuff

Maybe xpand too? But yeah nothing like madhouse 16
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Reply #6 posted 11/10/16 6:16pm

RJOrion

nah...xpand and xogenous are the best joints though...
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Reply #7 posted 11/11/16 1:28am

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Not a dance or slow jam record at all, but it has many other qualities IMHO. It's quite cerebral even by Prince's standards.

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Reply #8 posted 11/11/16 8:43am

CAL3

TrivialPursuit said:

It's good background music, it's not jarring or crass. I'm not sure anyone is cutting a rug to any of those songs though. It ain't that type of party, hunty.

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Nuff said.

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It's basically unadventurous 'smooth jazz.'

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Reply #9 posted 11/11/16 9:17am

TrivialPursuit

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CAL3 said:

TrivialPursuit said:

It's good background music, it's not jarring or crass. I'm not sure anyone is cutting a rug to any of those songs though. It ain't that type of party, hunty.

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Nuff said.

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It's basically unadventurous 'smooth jazz.'


That's a good way of putting it. Yet it's not as mundane as I'd expect. It's not giving Yanni a run for his money either. haha

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #10 posted 11/11/16 9:24am

CAL3

TrivialPursuit said:

CAL3 said:

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Nuff said.

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It's basically unadventurous 'smooth jazz.'


That's a good way of putting it. Yet it's not as mundane as I'd expect. It's not giving Yanni a run for his money either. haha

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Yeah, I enjoy it for what it is! I like the violin playing by Vanessa Mae. The band sounds great, it's all very competent - if a little dispassionate.

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Reply #11 posted 11/11/16 10:53pm

databank

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CAL3 said:

TrivialPursuit said:

It's good background music, it's not jarring or crass. I'm not sure anyone is cutting a rug to any of those songs though. It ain't that type of party, hunty.

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Nuff said.

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It's basically unadventurous 'smooth jazz.'

I wouldn't say that because it sounds like Prince. Unadventurous smooth jazz would be, for me and to stay in the Prince world, things like Ricky Peterson's own releases, Candy Dulfer's albums, Sheila's 2 "E-Train" albums or Najee's solo albums: super generic, almost elevator jazz. Xpectation has a strong Prince touch on it, it's not generic at all. And by Prince's standards it's pretty adventurous (Prince goes out of his comfort zone, tries new stuff).

In the 2000's the only adventurous things that would happen in jazz anyway would be those jazz artists like Nils Petter Molvaer or Buggs Wesseltoft (I'm sure I've mispelled their names but too lazy to check) or Sayag Jazz Machine that would mix jazz with electronic music, acts like The Cinematic Orchestra who would be merging jazz with both electronic and contemporary music, + a few really experimental acts that would really try hard to experiment with the language without using electronic elements. Everything else had already been done before. There are vibrant hardbop albums being released every year, some real great stuff, but it's unadventurous in the sense that it doesn't invent anything that wasn't already there in 1965. Same with free-jazz, not much innovation has happened since the mid 80's as far as I know.

Xpectation is a much more adventurous record, by Prince's own standards, than Musicology or The Rainbow Children. And while it wasn't avant-garde by the standards of 2003, it was a very decent jazz-fusion record.

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Reply #12 posted 11/12/16 3:35pm

CAL3

databank said:

CAL3 said:

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Nuff said.

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It's basically unadventurous 'smooth jazz.'

I wouldn't say that because it sounds like Prince. Unadventurous smooth jazz would be, for me and to stay in the Prince world, things like Ricky Peterson's own releases, Candy Dulfer's albums, Sheila's 2 "E-Train" albums or Najee's solo albums: super generic, almost elevator jazz. Xpectation has a strong Prince touch on it, it's not generic at all. And by Prince's standards it's pretty adventurous (Prince goes out of his comfort zone, tries new stuff).

In the 2000's the only adventurous things that would happen in jazz anyway would be those jazz artists like Nils Petter Molvaer or Buggs Wesseltoft (I'm sure I've mispelled their names but too lazy to check) or Sayag Jazz Machine that would mix jazz with electronic music, acts like The Cinematic Orchestra who would be merging jazz with both electronic and contemporary music, + a few really experimental acts that would really try hard to experiment with the language without using electronic elements. Everything else had already been done before. There are vibrant hardbop albums being released every year, some real great stuff, but it's unadventurous in the sense that it doesn't invent anything that wasn't already there in 1965. Same with free-jazz, not much innovation has happened since the mid 80's as far as I know.

Xpectation is a much more adventurous record, by Prince's own standards, than Musicology or The Rainbow Children. And while it wasn't avant-garde by the standards of 2003, it was a very decent jazz-fusion record.

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Strong post - great work.

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