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The War/ NYC Live The book Funk by Dave Thompson lists (among others) two 1998 official archive releases from Prince: The War and NYC Live.
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The WAR was given free to those who ordered from 800 NEW FUNK--cassette of
long track live at paisley. NYC live --was cassette sold thru NF of songs from roseland NY show in 97. | |
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Just to add, the War is a 20 minute or so slow live ramble about living under the Earth and microchips in your neck.
Actually, I like it a lot more now than I did when I first got it. The NYC live tape has 'Jam of the Year' followed by 'Face Down'. | |
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metalorange said: Just to add, the War is a 20 minute or so slow live ramble about living under the Earth and microchips in your neck.
Which is not so much of a ramble when you understand that "living under the Earth with a microchip in your neck" is a metaphor for living in Satan's world having accepted the mark of the Beast. "That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32 | |
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NuPwrSoul said: metalorange said: Just to add, the War is a 20 minute or so slow live ramble about living under the Earth and microchips in your neck.
Which is not so much of a ramble when you understand that "living under the Earth with a microchip in your neck" is a metaphor for living in Satan's world having accepted the mark of the Beast. Yes, you're right... That's so much more not a ramble... Well, since the definition of 'to ramble' is 'to go on and on without getting to the point' and since the point seems to be '"living under the Earth with a microchip in your neck" is a metaphor for living in Satan's world having accepted the mark of the Beast' which he never actually states, you could argue he never actually gets to the point, therefore he is rambling. Erpso Ipso Facto. Well, that's what the microchip in my neck told me to write, and I always obey my microchip... | |
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metalorange said: NuPwrSoul said: metalorange said: Just to add, the War is a 20 minute or so slow live ramble about living under the Earth and microchips in your neck.
Which is not so much of a ramble when you understand that "living under the Earth with a microchip in your neck" is a metaphor for living in Satan's world having accepted the mark of the Beast. Yes, you're right... That's so much more not a ramble... Well, since the definition of 'to ramble' is 'to go on and on without getting to the point' and since the point seems to be '"living under the Earth with a microchip in your neck" is a metaphor for living in Satan's world having accepted the mark of the Beast' which he never actually states, you could argue he never actually gets to the point, therefore he is rambling. Erpso Ipso Facto. Well, that's what the microchip in my neck told me to write, and I always obey my microchip... I got the point of the song rather quickly, so it was not a ramble for me. As far as him coming outright and stating what the metaphor signifies, when did he ever say who Spooky Electric was? Or the "Elevator" in "Let's Go Crazy"? Does he need to spell everything out or can we use our power of inference? "That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32 | |
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NuPwrSoul said: metalorange said: NuPwrSoul said: metalorange said: Just to add, the War is a 20 minute or so slow live ramble about living under the Earth and microchips in your neck.
Which is not so much of a ramble when you understand that "living under the Earth with a microchip in your neck" is a metaphor for living in Satan's world having accepted the mark of the Beast. Yes, you're right... That's so much more not a ramble... Well, since the definition of 'to ramble' is 'to go on and on without getting to the point' and since the point seems to be '"living under the Earth with a microchip in your neck" is a metaphor for living in Satan's world having accepted the mark of the Beast' which he never actually states, you could argue he never actually gets to the point, therefore he is rambling. Erpso Ipso Facto. Well, that's what the microchip in my neck told me to write, and I always obey my microchip... I got the point of the song rather quickly, so it was not a ramble for me. As far as him coming outright and stating what the metaphor signifies, when did he ever say who Spooky Electric was? Or the "Elevator" in "Let's Go Crazy"? Does he need to spell everything out or can we use our power of inference? Yeah, but they weren't 20 minute songs. A ramble implies 'a long time spent not getting to the point'. I'm only defending my choice of the word 'ramble' and am not attacking Prince's right to use metaphors in his work. You obviously got the point very quickly, I assume you didn't bother listening to the last 10 minutes?! It was just filler I guess. | |
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Ok, how about a compromise, I'll let you keep the word "ramble" if you admit that the song was not "about living under the Earth and microchips in your neck." 
. tryna get the emoticoncode right... [This message was edited Fri Apr 4 6:36:38 PST 2003 by NuPwrSoul] "That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32 | |
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NuPwrSoul said:
Ok, how about a compromise, I'll let you keep the word "ramble" if you admit that the song was not "about living under the Earth and microchips in your neck."
. tryna get the emoticoncode right... [This message was edited Fri Apr 4 6:36:38 PST 2003 by NuPwrSoul] Okay, fair enough. The War is a 20 minute or so slow live ramble NOT about living under the Earth and microchips in your neck. And here are the lyrics for those listening in: 1,2 the evolution will be colorized I can't hear u say it Y'all ain't ready I can't hear u say it The evolution will be colorized This is the war...right on The war will go on and on and on If u don't wanna miss your saturday morning cartoons 1,2 the evolution will be colorized 1,2 the evolution will be colorized Yeah...right on Y'all niggas is bad The war will go on and on The revolution will be The revolution will be The revolution will be on and on and The war will go on and on If u do not wish to be in the war u should leave now We are about to challenge what you believe If u do not wish to be challenged u should leave now, Saturday morning awaits Do u love your country Do u love your country Do u love God Do u love your country as much as u love God If the government If the government If the government wants to put a microchip in your neck...right on Do u still love your country The war will go on and on If u do not wish to be challenged leave now The evolution will be colorized The evolution will be colorized We are running out of the essentials of life: Oxygen, water, food, fertile earth Underground right now as we speak there is a metropolis awaiting, waiting... for u and me With clean air, food to eat, will u go, will u go... Will u go underground to this metropolis, this metropolis paradise We are running out of the essentials of life here on earth Will u go, will u go, will u go Don't u love your country If your country no longer exist on this earth But exist under this earth will u go Underneath in the metropolis there's food to eat, clean air it's a paradise One condition...microchip in your neck 1, 2 the evolution will be colorized Right on Would u stay above the metropolis the microchip city Would u stay above and await your fate Do u trust your god Would you stay on top of the chip and await your fate Tonight u will be challenged u best leave now The war will go on and on 1,2 the evolution will be colorized 1,2 1,2 the evolution will be colorized Without god there is no country Without god there is no metropolis Without god there is no oxygen Without god there is no food to eat Without god there is no chocolate microchip for your neck Somebody say it 1,2 the evolution will be colorized In other words they'll be a little bit of u and a little bit of me 1,2 the evolution will be colorized The evolution will be colorized The evolution will be colorized 1 for me 2 for u U preach a lie not the truth U give me candy and keep the gold Gonna' eat it. in the war Batter up Pitcher down What your teacher say it ain't down Pledge allegiance to your flag U tie me to a truck...then u drag 1 for me 2 for u U preach a lie not the truth U give me candy u keep the gold Gonna eat it in the war U give me AIDS your history when it comes 2 find Another day many die and this is true Red black yellow even Jew Claimin' god was backin' u on a cross what a fool 1 for me 2 for u U preach a lie not the truth U give me candy and keep the gold Gonna eat it in the war Shall I go on So u say u got a cure HIV I'm not sure Every seed fruit to bare The great babylon I don't care We know your name it's the beast All of gods child is your beef When the righteous one plants the seed No more kids with mama bleed Only way to get there is the truth y'all In the war it's 'bout me and u Come on 1,2 the evolution will be colorized 1,2 1,2 the evolution will be colorized 1,2 1,2 the evolution will be colorized Play your organ son 1 for me 2 for u U preach a lie not the truth U give me candy u keep the gold What the hell is goin' on y'all There's a mountain mighty high Can't reach the top unless u fly Ain't about the money `bout the gold Whatever century money just got sold y'all If ya hear me Money just got sold y'all Check the yen It's has been It's all gone Your pocket book is next 'bout the gold y'all 1,2 the evolution will be colorized 1,2 the evolution 1,2 the evolution the evolution will be the evolution...will be...colorized 1,2 the evolution will be colorized | |
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metalorange said: Okay, fair enough. The War is a 20 minute or so slow live ramble In its released edited dubbed format - the orginal performance of the song at Paisley Park lasted for approximately 40 minutesALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift. |
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origmnd said: The WAR was given free to those who ordered from 800 NEW FUNK--cassette of
The War was subsequently sold in cassette and CD format through the retail site for a period of time.long track live at paisley. NYC live --was cassette sold thru NF of songs from roseland NY show in 97. ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift. |
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Love the "1,2..." refrain and the whole song has such a laid back vibe.
 Everybody is special. Everybody. Everybody is a hero, a lover, a fool, a villain. Everybody. Everybody has their story to tell. |
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metalorange said: Just to add, the War is a 20 minute or so slow live ramble about living under the Earth and microchips in your neck.
Actually, I like it a lot more now than I did when I first got it. The NYC live tape has 'Jam of the Year' followed by 'Face Down'. Beleive it or not here in Orange County I heard on the news that a woman and her daughter surgically had chips implanted in there bodys which reveal their medical backgrounds. -------------------------------------------------
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There are a few differences that I hear in the lyrics: 1 for me 2 for u U preach a lie not the truth U give me candy and keep the store Gonna' get it in the war (As in you retain ownership of the means of production and distribution while giving out token compensation... an iniquity to be righted in the war... a recurring theme for Prince) Batter up Pitcher down What your teacher say, it ain't found Pledge allegiance to your flag U tie me to a truck...then u drag... U give me AIDS Your history When it comes 2 mine, another day... Every seed fruit to bear The great babylon I don't care We know your name it's the beast All of gods child is your feast When the righteous one plants the seed No more tears will mama bleed (A reference to the Book of Revelations prophecy of the woman in wilderness pregnant with the Son of Man while the Dragon/beast attempts to devour her) It ain't about the money, it's about the gold Twentieth century money just got sold y'all (Referencing the shift away from the gold standard as the basis for measuring a currency's worth in the early 1900s, which many people identify as introducing instability in the economy) "That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32 | |
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