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Reply #60 posted 11/13/16 3:09am

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Adrian sounds really excited about the work they were doing. It seems that he was infected by Prince's passion for the project. Something clearly clicked in the studio between the four of them. I find it hard to imagine, though, that this would have been anything other than a niche release based on the one track to come out of these sessions, Ruff Enuff. I doubt it's going to be a priority to get the full release out there, but I hope I'm wrong.

I found the stuff Adrian said about using effect pedals with the sax to be pretty interesting. I thing he and MonoNeon were bringing something fresh for Prince to feed off. I wish there had been more time to explore and push into the world of seventies grooves blended with today's technology. It was good to see Prince play around with a basic rock combo, but what I really wanted was to hear what these musicians could do with a modern twist of experimental funk-jazz-fusion. Sigh...

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Reply #61 posted 11/13/16 4:27am

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OperatingThetan said:

laurarichardson said:


-/ Some of his actions do tell us something was going on. It has been discussed many times on this board and others. At this point many of you have not read any of it but criticize the idea.


I have read it and have objectively assessed it as I do any material. What I see are opinions and interpretations, not facts.

There are plenty of facts.
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Reply #62 posted 11/13/16 10:20am

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laurarichardson said:

OperatingThetan said:



I have read it and have objectively assessed it as I do any material. What I see are opinions and interpretations, not facts.

There are plenty of facts.

There are plenty of facts , Laura's right. I can't believe some Prince fans don't care. I wish more of Prince's friends would speak out like Adrian and Appolonia did. neutral
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #63 posted 11/13/16 10:21am

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My opinion is that nothing adds up. The facts have not been released to the public. There are so many things that happened. It was so out of character for Prince to make amends with people - he would cut people off and be done with them forever. His appearance had changed, he was fast-tracking museum plans for PP and his music, he was apparently not concerned with the little things anymore (upkeep of PP components - furniture, HVAC system), he had paid up back taxes and other bills, he bought the Purple Rain house after all these years to keep it in his Estate ... Just so many "coincidences" I cannot say there was not a medical issue other than that ultimately fatal Fent dose. TN basically confirmed that.

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Reply #64 posted 11/13/16 10:44am

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1Sasha said:

My opinion is that nothing adds up. The facts have not been released to the public. There are so many things that happened. It was so out of character for Prince to make amends with people - he would cut people off and be done with them forever. His appearance had changed, he was fast-tracking museum plans for PP and his music, he was apparently not concerned with the little things anymore (upkeep of PP components - furniture, HVAC system), he had paid up back taxes and other bills, he bought the Purple Rain house after all these years to keep it in his Estate ... Just so many "coincidences" I cannot say there was not a medical issue other than that ultimately fatal Fent dose. TN basically confirmed that.

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It's my understanding that he bought the Purple Rain house right after it was on the market, so that would explain the time frame in which he bought it, because it went for sale. My 39 year old cousin died of a blood clot. She talked about death a lot with in the 6 mos before her passing. Sometimes people just have that feeling. But he did look terrible the last month
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Reply #65 posted 11/13/16 11:49am

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oliviacamron said:

laurarichardson said:


There are plenty of facts.

There are plenty of facts , Laura's right. I can't believe some Prince fans don't care. I wish more of Prince's friends would speak out like Adrian and Appolonia did. neutral

No there is plenty of anonymously sourced information that is treated as fact.
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Reply #66 posted 11/13/16 11:52am

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airth said:

Adrian sounds really excited about the work they were doing. It seems that he was infected by Prince's passion for the project. Something clearly clicked in the studio between the four of them. I find it hard to imagine, though, that this would have been anything other than a niche release based on the one track to come out of these sessions, Ruff Enuff. I doubt it's going to be a priority to get the full release out there, but I hope I'm wrong.

I found the stuff Adrian said about using effect pedals with the sax to be pretty interesting. I thing he and MonoNeon were bringing something fresh for Prince to feed off. I wish there had been more time to explore and push into the world of seventies grooves blended with today's technology. It was good to see Prince play around with a basic rock combo, but what I really wanted was to hear what these musicians could do with a modern twist of experimental funk-jazz-fusion. Sigh...


I hope if the Estate is planning to release this stuff and there's any additional work to be done Adrian and MonoNeon are involved. I don't want some random person who wasn't involved to begin with overseeing this.
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Reply #67 posted 11/13/16 12:30pm

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oliviacamron said:

leadline said:


Without seeing him in person that is a very subjective thing. I will continue to stick with what my eyes saw, and, more importantly, what the feet on the street (those closest to him) saw.

Like i been saying.... ... and dont believe the hype. Wasnt an accident...

[Edited 11/12/16 8:32am]

That's a big find. He said Prince's death was NOT an accident,thieves in the temple! That's means murder not suicide bty. He also said something in the water does not compute.




Clearly he is not the only one, there is still a very active homicide investigation being conducted by the sheriffs department according to this article.

http://www.fox9.com/news/213321412-story

[Edited 11/13/16 12:33pm]

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Reply #68 posted 11/13/16 12:50pm

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airth said:

Adrian sounds really excited about the work they were doing. It seems that he was infected by Prince's passion for the project. Something clearly clicked in the studio between the four of them. I find it hard to imagine, though, that this would have been anything other than a niche release based on the one track to come out of these sessions, Ruff Enuff. I doubt it's going to be a priority to get the full release out there, but I hope I'm wrong.

I found the stuff Adrian said about using effect pedals with the sax to be pretty interesting. I thing he and MonoNeon were bringing something fresh for Prince to feed off. I wish there had been more time to explore and push into the world of seventies grooves blended with today's technology. It was good to see Prince play around with a basic rock combo, but what I really wanted was to hear what these musicians could do with a modern twist of experimental funk-jazz-fusion. Sigh...

Agree with most of this although I don't see a niche release being in any way a bad thing. It would have been cool to have him releasing more experimental stuff again. Ruff Enuff wasn't a classic but it was intriguing and I'd like to have heard more of that direction. Maybe some day...

[Edited 11/13/16 12:53pm]

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Reply #69 posted 11/13/16 2:57pm

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leadline said:



oliviacamron said:


leadline said:



Without seeing him in person that is a very subjective thing. I will continue to stick with what my eyes saw, and, more importantly, what the feet on the street (those closest to him) saw.




Like i been saying.... ... and dont believe the hype. Wasnt an accident...





[Edited 11/12/16 8:32am]



That's a big find. He said Prince's death was NOT an accident,thieves in the temple! That's means murder not suicide bty. He also said something in the water does not compute.





Clearly he is not the only one, there is still a very active homicide investigation being conducted by the sheriffs department according to this article.

http://www.fox9.com/news/213321412-story

[Edited 11/13/16 12:33pm]


Exactly but I guess these news articles are a figment of our imagination.
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Reply #70 posted 11/13/16 4:46pm

PeteSilas

good stuff, checking out part 2 now. wonder if he still thinks anything different about P's death.

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Reply #71 posted 11/13/16 6:08pm

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laurarichardson said:

leadline said:



oliviacamron said:


leadline said:



Without seeing him in person that is a very subjective thing. I will continue to stick with what my eyes saw, and, more importantly, what the feet on the street (those closest to him) saw.




Like i been saying.... ... and dont believe the hype. Wasnt an accident...





[Edited 11/12/16 8:32am]



That's a big find. He said Prince's death was NOT an accident,thieves in the temple! That's means murder not suicide bty. He also said something in the water does not compute.





Clearly he is not the only one, there is still a very active homicide investigation being conducted by the sheriffs department according to this article.

http://www.fox9.com/news/213321412-story

[Edited 11/13/16 12:33pm]


Exactly but I guess these news articles are a figment of our imagination.


It's a homicide investigation because the drug was spiked and directly responsible for Prince's accidental death. None of which suggests Prince 'knew' death was coming - in fact, quite the opposite.
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Reply #72 posted 11/13/16 10:32pm

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oliviacamron said:

laurarichardson said:
There are plenty of facts.
There are plenty of facts , Laura's right. I can't believe some Prince fans don't care. I wish more of Prince's friends would speak out like Adrian and Appolonia did. neutral

if they feel that way, i too wish they would speak out and i also would have liked the people around MJ to have spoken out too. Other than to point to some shadowy group of people somewhere, plenty insisted that Michael was murdered and some like Lisa Marie says that Michael told her the names of people who did it in case he ended up dead. That could just be the paranoia of a rockstar. either way, the insinuations are kind of empty without any follow through.

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Reply #73 posted 11/14/16 1:46am

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OperatingThetan said:

laurarichardson said:


Exactly but I guess these news articles are a figment of our imagination.


It's a homicide investigation because the drug was spiked and directly responsible for Prince's accidental death. None of which suggests Prince 'knew' death was coming - in fact, quite the opposite.

-- And what his own sister had to say means nothing. 😳
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Reply #74 posted 11/14/16 1:56am

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And the very next day he could've changed his mind and gone in a completely different direction and shelved what he'd previously been working on. Who knows. Just sayin' he'd done it many, many times before.

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Reply #75 posted 11/14/16 5:08am

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NouveauDance said:

And the very next day he could've changed his mind and gone in a completely different direction and shelved what he'd previously been working on. Who knows. Just sayin' he'd done it many, many times before.


/// The Australian promotor for the piano shows said he was drawing up a contract for additional shows in Australia and that half of that show would be with a live band.
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Reply #76 posted 11/14/16 5:33am

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laurarichardson said:

NouveauDance said:

And the very next day he could've changed his mind and gone in a completely different direction and shelved what he'd previously been working on. Who knows. Just sayin' he'd done it many, many times before.

/// The Australian promotor for the piano shows said he was drawing up a contract for additional shows in Australia and that half of that show would be with a live band.

Apologies, I was referring specifically to studio material/album ideas.

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Reply #77 posted 11/14/16 6:06pm

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NouveauDance said:

laurarichardson said:

NouveauDance said: /// The Australian promotor for the piano shows said he was drawing up a contract for additional shows in Australia and that half of that show would be with a live band.

Apologies, I was referring specifically to studio material/album ideas.

Well don't you think musical project would have went along with the tour. From the interview I think that is what Adrian thinks.

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Reply #78 posted 11/14/16 6:08pm

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"…Unfortunately my post has got hijacked by some strange people. But that happens on here . Moving away from my real point about Princes exciting plans for the future.Would I have loved to have seen one of those shows, with that band…"





Saying β€” β€œIt also pretty much puts to bed all this, Prince new he was going to die rubbish” β€” in your original post, makes a lot of the comments you're objecting to, fair game. Surely, you didn't expect people would just ignore a statement like that and not comment on it. Or did you?



So technically speaking, you actually started a thread with both a main topic and a subtopic. Unluckily for you my friend, the subtopic β€” which you also started β€” happens to hold way more interest for a lot of people, than its parent topic.



The same thing happens to the best of us. So just grin and bear it ; Ψ― )



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Reply #79 posted 11/14/16 6:30pm

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En garde!



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Reply #80 posted 11/15/16 9:55am

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PeteSilas said:

good stuff, checking out part 2 now. wonder if he still thinks anything different about P's death.

Oh nice, its up, searching for it now.

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Reply #81 posted 11/15/16 12:25pm

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antonb said:

Basically, He recorded some tracks with adrian and mono that he was excited about. And that was the direction he was going to go with his music in the near future. Also they were going to start doing some shows to promote this new music and make some more music in the same vein. He got Adrian and Mono alone in the studio and described in some detail these plans to them. Andrian says that he was very excited about Princes plans and the tracks they had recorded were great. There were going to start soon after The Piano and Mic shows. Please listen for yourself. It got me excited then very sad, knowing he was no longer here.

What does Adrian play?

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Reply #82 posted 11/15/16 12:50pm

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Saxophone and flute.

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Reply #83 posted 11/15/16 2:07pm

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rogifan said:

oliviacamron said:


There are plenty of facts , Laura's right. I can't believe some Prince fans don't care. I wish more of Prince's friends would speak out like Adrian and Appolonia did. neutral

No there is plenty of anonymously sourced information that is treated as fact.
[Edited 11/13/16 11:50am]

There are facts but some of you don't want to hear them. I figured this out after people wrote off his own sister comments. At this point if his medical file fell from the sky and the evidence was in front of people we would still get denial.
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Reply #84 posted 11/15/16 2:18pm

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Yes, there are plenty of stories from "anonymous" sources, but I will only trust legitimate sources, such as AP, New York Times, ABC news, CNN and so on. Those sources usually fact-check their reportings.

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Keep in mind, while this is still an ongoing investigation, any stories that come out will be from "anonymous" people, because the Judge has issued a gag order, and they are not at liberty to speak about the case.

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The tabloids (TMZ-(WB), Enquirer, Fox/faux news) - I don't put any trust in, as they just spin fabricated stories to get clicks.

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Reply #85 posted 11/15/16 3:02pm

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rogifan said:


No there is plenty of anonymously sourced information that is treated as fact.
[Edited 11/13/16 11:50am]

There are facts but some of you don't want to hear them. I figured this out after people wrote off his own sister comments. At this point if his medical file fell from the sky and the evidence was in front of people we would still get denial.

Basically whatever someone wants to believe they consider it a fact. To me the only fact is the date, time and place of death along with the release from th3 medical examiner.
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Reply #86 posted 11/15/16 3:31pm

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PeteSilas said:

good stuff, checking out part 2 now. wonder if he still thinks anything different about P's death.

Oh nice, its up, searching for it now.

sorry, it's not, i just assumed it.

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Reply #87 posted 11/15/16 4:54pm

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I would honestly take what he said with a pinch of salt. How many times have we heard that the next thing was going to be his best since _____?... Plus we all know Prince's fondness for gilding the lily. What sounds great and raw during recording might sound overproduced a year down the line when it's on sale.

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I think what Prince was putting out the past couple of years was cool but was he on the verge of breaking new ground? It seems a little too perfect as a bittersweet swansong. I'm just sayin'

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Reply #88 posted 11/15/16 4:54pm

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late as usual (i know) but why would adrian and dfb disregard tyka's comments? i noticed that dfb made a point of repaeting ,"yes, not planning to die" after adrian said it. for his part, adrian seems to think that just bcos he liked working on the new material that prince couldn't have been ill or any number of other things. it's like he (adrian)is saying, "we had so much fun jammin that prince would have never died unexpectedly!! why would he do that? spooky electric must've got him. if u look forward to playing music as much as we did, surely you'd live forever!" these sentiments are typical of flighty artsy-fartsy types, hangers-on and all those young hens prince had lounging around the park. they can't see past their own experience with him, their own hopes and dreams that were stirred up by being around him....... smh. i hope ac and dfb clarify things in the next episode.

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Reply #89 posted 11/16/16 5:27am

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NouveauDance said:

I would honestly take what he said with a pinch of salt. How many times have we heard that the next thing was going to be his best since _____?... Plus we all know Prince's fondness for gilding the lily. What sounds great and raw during recording might sound overproduced a year down the line when it's on sale.

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I think what Prince was putting out the past couple of years was cool but was he on the verge of breaking new ground? It seems a little too perfect as a bittersweet swansong. I'm just sayin'

Well I think Hit and Run was one of his best productions and I think the live version of Shades of Umberia is incredible. Mike B Nelson has also said that he and Prince were working on some exciting new stuff. We can't get discounting things that people who interacted with him everyday have to say.

It is not one or two people saying these things it is dozens.

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