laurarichardson said:

Superfan1984 said:

phatphuk- What are you so angry about? (I'm asuming from the bold type) ---- Yes, it's possible, Prince didn't expect to die (but wouldn't the emergency plane landing have given him an idea it was possible?) and maybe he didn't take advice of his lawyers, but it still doesn't make much sense, considering he covered his ass in every other area. It's not even only about the money, which he may not have cared about, but the music, which we all know HE DID CARE ABOUT. To the extent that no one can cover his songs, upload on Youtube etc. Plus all the vault stuff. Surely he plans for all this.

-- He moved all of the songs into the LLC do depending on how it was set up he may taken care of the music. He may not have cared about the money after he was giving a lot of it away.

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Also, I read something about the JW, that they feel when a Man dies, he should not die with a lot of wealth. Money and wealth has no meaning in heaven. Prince probably wouldn't care if he just gave it all away, but to a good cause, of course.

mjscarousal said:

I don't believe Prince didn't leave a will and I believe Prince died under questionable and shady circumstances.

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yep...me too... i'll always believe he was assassinated

17 Famous People Who Died Without A Will

Kelly Phillips Erb, Forbes Staff

"…Prince Rogers Nelson (better known as Prince) made headlines recently when his sister filed documents claiming that the entertainer died without a will. As hard as that might be to believe, it’s not all that unusual…"

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"…It’s a lot to leave up to the law but a majority of Americans do just that – including celebrities. Here are 17 famous people who died without a will:…"

1. Abraham Lincoln: one of the most famous lawyers of our time and the sixteenth president of the United States.
   
   
2. Martin Luther King, Jr.: civil rights leader and activist.
   
   
3. Jimi Hendrix: one of the greatest guitar players of all time.
   
   
4. Pablo Picasso: famous artist.
   
   
5. Howard Hughes: entrepreneur and billionaire
   
   
6. Bob Marley: Jamaican singer/songwriter.
   
   
7. Kurt Cobain: singer/songwriter and frontman for Nirvana.
   
   
8. Tupac Shakur: rap artist and actor.
   
   
9. Salvatore Phillip “Sonny” Bono: entertainer turned U.S. Congressman.
   
   
10. Barry White: soulful entertainer.
    
    
11. Stieg Larsson: famous author.
    
    
12. James Brown: singer known as the Godfather of Soul. (Quick disclaimer: Brown did sign a will but it is subject to litigation.)
    
    
13. Steve McNair: former NFL quarterback and Pro Bowler.
    
    
14. Nate Dogg: rapper and actor.
    
    
15. Amy Winehouse: British singer/songwriter.
    
    
16. Prince: multi-talented artist.
    
    
17. Michael Jackson: the King of Pop. (Quick disclaimer: Jackson’s mother initially filed paperwork – much like Prince’s sister – alleging that there was no will. A will was eventually discovered.)
    
    

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LBrent said:

It's been determined that P left his estate legacy protected by a corporate structure.

Here's the thread where it's being discussed:

http://prince.org/msg/7/433432

Possibly on purpose. Prince was no dummy. He figured it all out. Maybe leaving Minne so much cash was a way to keep them in his corner and protective of PP. Taxes go to good things too, ya know.

"Bob Marley did not leave a will for religious reasons," explains Mr. Beatrice, "he was right about celebrating eternal life through his music, but he inadvertently created a lengthy probate mess that is bound to continue for many decades. This could have been avoided with an irrevocable trust in the proper jurisdiction."

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http://insurancenewsnet.com/oarticle/Bob-Marleys-Estate-Planning-Battle-Continues-to-Explode-33-Years-Later-Claims-a-510066

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Many people have reasons for not having a Will. Some may be intentional or unintentional. In the case of Prince -- that answer is still unknown.

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Why list a group of people who died without a will? We all know that this happens. Each of those people had totally different circumstances, so there is no comparison to Prince's case. Just saying.

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Stop reading and commenting on his dreck. Fatty wants attention, don't give it to him.

Snoop Dogg told us why he doesn't have a will: 'I don't give a f--- when I'm dead'

Jacob Shamsian — May 5, 2016

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"…At least one other legendary music artist definitely doesn't have a plan, and he's not worried about it…"

"…We caught up with Snoop Dogg in his trailer after his performance Tuesday night at the AOL NewFront event in Manhattan, promoting his new AOL series "Coach Snoop." We asked him if he's left a will, and if he made plans for his estate when he dies…"

"…Snoop doesn't care. He'll be dead…"

"…“I don’t give a f--- when I’m dead. What am I gonna give a f--- about?” Snoop told Business Insider. “This goin’ on while I’m gone, you know?”…"

"…Snoop hopes to be reincarnated, and observe the ruckus over his estate from the next life…"

"…“Hopefully, I’m a butterfly,” Snoop said. “I come back and fly around and look at all these motherf-----s fighting over my money and shit, like, 'Look at all these dumb motherf-----s.' Ha!”…"

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Superfan1984 said:

Prince was such a control freak, I think there is no way he did not leave a will. Just no way. It is fishy.

Not really. The simple love a conspiracy theory, but the truth is much more interesting. Londell said he talked to Prince about having a will more than once, and Prince just didn't want to do it. He hated talking about death and refused to pay attention to his assets after the fact. The way Prince shoved his past down and often times seemingly refused to acknowledge it or be part of it (albeit short periods), it's no surprise that he would ignore having a will. Not the best business move, but Prince wasn't known for making the best business moves. The lack of a will only continues that. I mean, it's unfortunate obviously. But I'd be very surprised if one ever turned up. (It won't.)

purplepoppy said:

Stop reading and commenting on his dreck. Fatty wants attention, don't give it to him.

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I know, but what he/she is saying is kinda misleading. There are lots of people who die without a will, and for different reasons. But yes, I agree with what you said.

TrivialPursuit said:

Superfan1984 said:

Prince was such a control freak, I think there is no way he did not leave a will. Just no way. It is fishy.

Not really. The simple love a conspiracy theory, but the truth is much more interesting. Londell said he talked to Prince about having a will more than once, and Prince just didn't want to do it. He hated talking about death and refused to pay attention to his assets after the fact. The way Prince shoved his past down and often times seemingly refused to acknowledge it or be part of it (albeit short periods), it's no surprise that he would ignore having a will. Not the best business move, but Prince wasn't known for making the best business moves. The lack of a will only continues that. I mean, it's unfortunate obviously. But I'd be very surprised if one ever turned up. (It won't.)

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Laurarichardson said:

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"Londell said he spoke to Prince about a will and he simply did not want to discuss death. Maybe it was his intention to do one but 57 is young and I am not sure if he health took a turn for the worst that he would have time to put a will together in a few days."

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Wow, Londell said that??!! Well, there ya go!! Prince didn't want to discuss death. Makes sense now, because I remember reading an interview somewhere, after MJ and Whitney died and he was asked to comment, and Prince did NOT want to talk about it. He just couldn't go there.

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Personally, I think that after he lost his Son and both Parents, death was just not something that he wanted to talk about. Those of you have lost a loved one, especially a child or a parent know what I'm talking about.

TrivialPursuit said:

Superfan1984 said:

Prince was such a control freak, I think there is no way he did not leave a will. Just no way. It is fishy.

Not really. The simple love a conspiracy theory, but the truth is much more interesting. Londell said he talked to Prince about having a will more than once, and Prince just didn't want to do it. He hated talking about death and refused to pay attention to his assets after the fact. The way Prince shoved his past down and often times seemingly refused to acknowledge it or be part of it (albeit short periods), it's no surprise that he would ignore having a will. Not the best business move, but Prince wasn't known for making the best business moves. The lack of a will only continues that. I mean, it's unfortunate obviously. But I'd be very surprised if one ever turned up. (It won't.)

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If Prince did not want a Will, he probably had good reasons, as Laura has stated. He probably had trusts set-up to make sure the money went to a good cause.

cloveringold85 said:

Wow, Londell said that??!! Well, there ya go!! Prince didn't want to discuss death. Makes sense now, because I remember reading an interview somewhere, after MJ and Whitney died and he was asked to comment, and Prince did NOT want to talk about it. He just couldn't go there.

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Personally, I think that after he lost his Son and both Parents, death was just not something that he wanted to talk about. Those of you have lost a loved one, especially a child or a parent know what I'm talking about.

Well there is a story where Prince locked himself in his room for a few days after MJ died, because he was so upset by it. (And there is a lack of tour dates at that time.)

People losing someone is part of life. He'd already lost Boni Boyer and did a concert for her before mom and dad, and Ahmir. If anything, losing someone makes death more approachable, because now you're familiar with it. It's people who haven't experienced it up close and personal that tend to keep those sort of things at arm's length.

But yeah, there was an interview after Prince died, where Londell mentioned that he repeatedly tried to get Prince to get his affairs in order and he wasn't having it.

TrivialPursuit said:

Superfan1984 said:

Prince was such a control freak, I think there is no way he did not leave a will. Just no way. It is fishy.

Not really. The simple love a conspiracy theory, but the truth is much more interesting. Londell said he talked to Prince about having a will more than once, and Prince just didn't want to do it. He hated talking about death and refused to pay attention to his assets after the fact. The way Prince shoved his past down and often times seemingly refused to acknowledge it or be part of it (albeit short periods), it's no surprise that he would ignore having a will. Not the best business move, but Prince wasn't known for making the best business moves. The lack of a will only continues that. I mean, it's unfortunate obviously. But I'd be very surprised if one ever turned up. (It won't.)

Yes y'all. This isn't a soap opera. Wills do not show up - if they were written legally, there is a paper trail. Holographic wills are not recognized in Minnesota. Why does everyone second guess Prince, dead or alive? Man ran rings around all of us regardless of his peccadillos. Give up and submit to what happened.

TrivialPursuit said:

cloveringold85 said:

Wow, Londell said that??!! Well, there ya go!! Prince didn't want to discuss death. Makes sense now, because I remember reading an interview somewhere, after MJ and Whitney died and he was asked to comment, and Prince did NOT want to talk about it. He just couldn't go there.

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Personally, I think that after he lost his Son and both Parents, death was just not something that he wanted to talk about. Those of you have lost a loved one, especially a child or a parent know what I'm talking about.

Well there is a story where Prince locked himself in his room for a few days after MJ died, because he was so upset by it. (And there is a lack of tour dates at that time.)

People losing someone is part of life. He'd already lost Boni Boyer and did a concert for her before mom and dad, and Ahmir. If anything, losing someone makes death more approachable, because now you're familiar with it. It's people who haven't experienced it up close and personal that tend to keep those sort of things at arm's length.

But yeah, there was an interview after Prince died, where Londell mentioned that he repeatedly tried to get Prince to get his affairs in order and he wasn't having it.

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Wow, I did not know about that story when Prince locked himself in his room for several days. That is so sad. I know Prince was never friends with MJ and he didn't like being compared to MJ or anyone else, for that matter. I'm sure it affected him deeply, nonetheless.

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Losing a loved one certainly changes a person and how they think about life and death.

Clover - Prince was "friends" with MJ. Perspectives change as you get older. You are an earnest and lovely person.

cloveringold85 said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Not really. The simple love a conspiracy theory, but the truth is much more interesting. Londell said he talked to Prince about having a will more than once, and Prince just didn't want to do it. He hated talking about death and refused to pay attention to his assets after the fact. The way Prince shoved his past down and often times seemingly refused to acknowledge it or be part of it (albeit short periods), it's no surprise that he would ignore having a will. Not the best business move, but Prince wasn't known for making the best business moves. The lack of a will only continues that. I mean, it's unfortunate obviously. But I'd be very surprised if one ever turned up. (It won't.)

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Laurarichardson said:

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"Londell said he spoke to Prince about a will and he simply did not want to discuss death. Maybe it was his intention to do one but 57 is young and I am not sure if he health took a turn for the worst that he would have time to put a will together in a few days."

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Wow, Londell said that??!! Well, there ya go!! Prince didn't want to discuss death. Makes sense now, because I remember reading an interview somewhere, after MJ and Whitney died and he was asked to comment, and Prince did NOT want to talk about it. He just couldn't go there.

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Personally, I think that after he lost his Son and both Parents, death was just not something that he wanted to talk about. Those of you have lost a loved one, especially a child or a parent know what I'm talking about.

Interestingly I did the exact opposite. When my mom was nearing the end of her time on this earth (around the same time that Prince died without a will), I made an appointment with an attorney and drew up a will, made sure that any accounts had a primary beneficary named and began planning and paying on my final expensives, so as not to leave my loved ones scrambling, in a lurch and with a mess on their hands. Also I agree with what someone else stated about having a trust instead of a will. The attorney discussed with me the options of trust and a will and how a trust is private. Seeing as how I'm just a working class jane, didn't really see the need for a trust. I found it all very interesting and the attorney I spoke with said you would be surprised the number of people who die without wills or without making any type of arrangements for the distribution of their assets.

Agree. My Grandfather did not have a will leaving any/everything to my Grandmother. They were far from rich.

cloveringold85 said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Well there is a story where Prince locked himself in his room for a few days after MJ died, because he was so upset by it. (And there is a lack of tour dates at that time.)

People losing someone is part of life. He'd already lost Boni Boyer and did a concert for her before mom and dad, and Ahmir. If anything, losing someone makes death more approachable, because now you're familiar with it. It's people who haven't experienced it up close and personal that tend to keep those sort of things at arm's length.

But yeah, there was an interview after Prince died, where Londell mentioned that he repeatedly tried to get Prince to get his affairs in order and he wasn't having it.

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Wow, I did not know about that story when Prince locked himself in his room for several days. That is so sad. I know Prince was never friends with MJ and he didn't like being compared to MJ or anyone else, for that matter. I'm sure it affected him deeply, nonetheless.

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Losing a loved one certainly changes a person and how they think about life and death.

Yes - and Tavis Smiley, who told that story in an interview (filmed, although it was a radio interview) went on to say that when Prince emerged from his room (after several days) he took Tavis out onto a balcony and just talked and talked, wihout interruption, about what a genius MJ was - for hours, until dawn broke.

i think it was intentional ...as was discussed..to let the vultures ruin their lives by fighting over all this

phatphuk said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Superfan1984 said:

"…Prince was such a control freak, I think there is no way he did not leave a will. Just no way. It is fishy…"

"…Not really. The simple love a conspiracy theory, but the truth is much more interesting. Londell said he talked to Prince about having a will more than once, and Prince just didn't want to do it. He hated talking about death and refused to pay attention to his assets after the fact. The way Prince shoved his past down and often times seemingly refused to acknowledge it or be part of it (albeit short periods), it's no surprise that he would ignore having a will. Not the best business move, but Prince wasn't known for making the best business moves. The lack of a will only continues that. I mean, it's unfortunate obviously. But I'd be very surprised if one ever turned up. (It won't.)…"

You nailed it with that one, TrivialPursuit HaHaHaHa!

And the beauty of it is, you slid it by them without them still not even registering it.

Slick! ; د )

Teach me how to do that? HaHaHaHa!

Dibblekins said:

TrivialPursuit said:

luvsexy4all said:

i think it was intentional ...as was discussed..to let the vultures ruin their lives by fighting over all this

Agree

cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

Superfan1984 said: -- He moved all of the songs into the LLC do depending on how it was set up he may taken care of the music. He may not have cared about the money after he was giving a lot of it away.

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Also, I read something about the JW, that they feel when a Man dies, he should not die with a lot of wealth. Money and wealth has no meaning in heaven. Prince probably wouldn't care if he just gave it all away, but to a good cause, of course.

That's not a JW thing.

There is no JW thing that dictates anyone's personal assets, the disposition of those assets before or after death...and another thing that I've heard erroneously in interveiws by that guy who was close to P (the one who worked for Obama) and fans repeat like it's factual, there's no JW rule about a member being "forbidden to discuss their charity or philanthropy". JWs consider those things a personal choice, BUT, members are encouraged to be modest IN ALL THINGS...also, to do charitable/philanthropic works with the same type of heart that the Good Samaritan and/or Jesus would, in other words are you doing those good works to help or are you doing them simply for attention? P simply took that and added his own desire for privacy and from the outside only those directly involved knew about charitable things he'd done, but he'd done the same thing way before he was a JW.

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Dibblekins said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Wow, I did not know about that story when Prince locked himself in his room for several days. That is so sad. I know Prince was never friends with MJ and he didn't like being compared to MJ or anyone else, for that matter. I'm sure it affected him deeply, nonetheless.

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Losing a loved one certainly changes a person and how they think about life and death.

Yes - and Tavis Smiley, who told that story in an interview (filmed, although it was a radio interview) went on to say that when Prince emerged from his room (after several days) he took Tavis out onto a balcony and just talked and talked, wihout interruption, about what a genius MJ was - for hours, until dawn broke.

Um. I saw the same interview in video form on YouTube.

That's not exactly what Tavis said.

He said P talked for a couple of hours. It was about MJ, but Tavis never specified what was said or any context.

Tavis did say that P was in his room for a few days after hearing that MJ died and was upset.

They were born within a couple of months in 1958. That had to be creepy to think about, and P was older so that had to be strange to consider "Am I next?"

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LBrent said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Also, I read something about the JW, that they feel when a Man dies, he should not die with a lot of wealth. Money and wealth has no meaning in heaven. Prince probably wouldn't care if he just gave it all away, but to a good cause, of course.

That's not a JW thing.

There is no JW thing that dictates anyone's personal assets, the disposition of thaose assets before or after death...and another thing that I've heard in interveiws by that guy who was close to P (the one who worked for Obama), there's no JW rule about a member being "forbidden to discuss their charity or philanthropy". JWs consider those things a personal choice, BUT, members are encouraged to be modest IN ALL THINGS...also, to do charitable/philanthropic works with the same type of heart that the Good Samaritan and/or Jesus would, in other words are you doing those good works to help or are you doing them simply for attention? P simply took that and added his own desire for privacy and from the outside only those directly involved knew about charitable things he'd done, but he'd done the same thing way before he was a JW.

One of his girlfriends say in the 80s he would send people out to fastfood places to pick up hundres of bags of food and take them to homeless shealters in downtow Minneapolis. This is long before he was a JW and a few people said his mon would buy kids coats when she was a social worker in the school system. I believe he was a man with a good heart stuck in a ruthless industry.

laurarichardson said:

LBrent said:

That's not a JW thing.

There is no JW thing that dictates anyone's personal assets, the disposition of thaose assets before or after death...and another thing that I've heard in interveiws by that guy who was close to P (the one who worked for Obama), there's no JW rule about a member being "forbidden to discuss their charity or philanthropy". JWs consider those things a personal choice, BUT, members are encouraged to be modest IN ALL THINGS...also, to do charitable/philanthropic works with the same type of heart that the Good Samaritan and/or Jesus would, in other words are you doing those good works to help or are you doing them simply for attention? P simply took that and added his own desire for privacy and from the outside only those directly involved knew about charitable things he'd done, but he'd done the same thing way before he was a JW.

One of his girlfriends say in the 80s he would send people out to fastfood places to pick up hundres of bags of food and take them to homeless shealters in downtow Minneapolis. This is long before he was a JW and a few people said his mon would buy kids coats when she was a social worker in the school system. I believe he was a man with a good heart stuck in a ruthless industry.

Exactly!

I swear, if P wiped his nose with Scott tissue instead of Kleenex, folks would swear it's because JWs aren't allowed to use Kleenex!

Lol

LBrent said:

Dibblekins said:

Yes - and Tavis Smiley, who told that story in an interview (filmed, although it was a radio interview) went on to say that when Prince emerged from his room (after several days) he took Tavis out onto a balcony and just talked and talked, wihout interruption, about what a genius MJ was - for hours, until dawn broke.

Um. I saw the same interview in video form on YouTube.

That's not exactly what Tavis said.

He said P talked for a couple of hours. It was about MJ, but Tavis never specified what was said or any context.

Tavis did say that P was in his room for a few days after hearing that MJ died and was upset.

They were born within a couple of months in 1958. That had to be creepy to think about, and P was older so that had to be strange to consider "Am I next?"

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I wonder if we saw the same video then..Because the one I saw (or maybe I read it?) explicitly said Prince spoke for hours about MJ's genius until the sun came up - and Tavis just had to sit back and let him get it off his chest.

I'll see if I can find it and post here.