Thread started 10/28/16 11:01amIstenSzek |
UNITED STATES OF DIVISION - who's on backing vocals?
i just checked princevault but they have no info about other people on the song except for prince himself.
to me it always sounded like wendy/lisa, especially the bit that goes:
how far from heaven must we go before the wind of change will blow and show..
everybody stop fighting, everybody make love.. maybe i'm just hearing things because i couple the musicology era to the duet between prince and wendy on "reflection", as performed on tv.
it also seems like the kind of message song that he would ask them for input on, considering. kinda like 'in this bed eye scream'.
did it every come to light who is on backing?
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Reply #1 posted 10/30/16 7:06am
IstenSzek |
so, no one? and true love lives on lollipops and crisps |
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Reply #2 posted 10/30/16 7:52am
dodger |
IstenSzek said: so, no one? I've just listened on headphones out of pity for your thread... . There is definitely some female vocals in there and you may be right, I guess it could be W&L. Rhonda and Candy were around then so they could be possibities |
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Reply #3 posted 10/30/16 8:05am
Guitarhero |
dodger said:
IstenSzek said:
so, no one?
I've just listened on headphones out of pity for your thread... . There is definitely some female vocals in there and you may be right, I guess it could be W&L. Rhonda and Candy were around then so they could be possibities
I think it's Rhonda too. |
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Reply #4 posted 10/30/16 8:58am
thedoorkeeper |
UNITED STATES OF DIVISION was recorded in 2004 - why would you think it could be Wendy & Lisa on background vocals? |
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Reply #5 posted 10/30/16 9:27am
paulludvig |
Prince could recreate that W&L sound with other singers. The wooh is on the one! |
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Reply #6 posted 10/30/16 10:28am
OperatingTheta n |
thedoorkeeper said: UNITED STATES OF DIVISION was recorded in 2004 - why would you think it could be Wendy & Lisa on background vocals? Wendy & Lisa are on the 'Planet Earth' album released in 2007 and Prince performed Reflection live on TV with Wendy in 2004, along with a performance at The Brits with both Wendy & Lisa in 2006. Given that, I'd say it's quite possible. |
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Reply #7 posted 10/30/16 11:10am
dbpdexter |
Most likely it's Rhonda because it sounds like her talking on the black,white,straight,gay breakdown or it could be both Rhonda and Candy. I don't know how you could think it's W&L. Any Prince fan would know their voices without a doubt. [Edited 10/30/16 11:11am] AKA PDEXTER |
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Reply #8 posted 10/30/16 11:32am
IstenSzek |
dodger said:
IstenSzek said:
so, no one?
I've just listened on headphones out of pity for your thread... . There is definitely some female vocals in there and you may be right, I guess it could be W&L. Rhonda and Candy were around then so they could be possibities
rhonda and candy? sounds about right i think.
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Reply #9 posted 10/30/16 11:32am
IstenSzek |
OperatingThetan said:
thedoorkeeper said:
UNITED STATES OF DIVISION was recorded in 2004 - why would you think it could be Wendy & Lisa on background vocals?
Wendy & Lisa are on the 'Planet Earth' album released in 2007 and Prince performed Reflection live on TV with Wendy in 2004, along with a performance at The Brits with both Wendy & Lisa in 2006. Given that, I'd say it's quite possible.
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Reply #10 posted 10/30/16 11:37am
IstenSzek |
dbpdexter said:
Most likely it's Rhonda because it sounds like her talking on the black,white,straight,gay breakdown or it could be both Rhonda and Candy. I don't know how you could think it's W&L. Any Prince fan would know their voices without a doubt.
first, the spoken vocals on the breakdown are different in tone and timbre from the ones that are on the background singing vocals.
second, see the above post, W&L were around between '04 and '07 and they might have worked on more songs with prince than what we know now.
but, after reading the bolded part, i guess i'm not a good fan i've only been around since 1988, for every single scrap of music prince released either in stores or online.
but i guess you're right, if i'm a prince fan i would know their voices. so i'm not a fan
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Reply #11 posted 10/30/16 4:10pm
paulludvig |
IstenSzek said:
dbpdexter said:
Most likely it's Rhonda because it sounds like her talking on the black,white,straight,gay breakdown or it could be both Rhonda and Candy. I don't know how you could think it's W&L. Any Prince fan would know their voices without a doubt.
first, the spoken vocals on the breakdown are different in tone and timbre from the ones that are on the background singing vocals.
second, see the above post, W&L were around between '04 and '07 and they might have worked on more songs with prince than what we know now.
but, after reading the bolded part, i guess i'm not a good fan i've only been around since 1988, for every single scrap of music prince released either in stores or online.
but i guess you're right, if i'm a prince fan i would know their voices. so i'm not a fan
A lot of people thought W&L sang background vocals on Planet Earth based on the sound. Turned out it was The Twins The wooh is on the one! |
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Reply #12 posted 10/30/16 4:19pm
IstenSzek |
paulludvig said:
IstenSzek said:
first, the spoken vocals on the breakdown are different in tone and timbre from the ones that are on the background singing vocals.
second, see the above post, W&L were around between '04 and '07 and they might have worked on more songs with prince than what we know now.
but, after reading the bolded part, i guess i'm not a good fan i've only been around since 1988, for every single scrap of music prince released either in stores or online.
but i guess you're right, if i'm a prince fan i would know their voices. so i'm not a fan
A lot of people thought W&L sang background vocals on Planet Earth based on the sound. Turned out it was The Twins
not true fans, none of them
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Reply #13 posted 10/31/16 1:12am
jaypotton |
It would be a nice little Easter egg if it was them on USOD. Certainly plausible though why would it be a big secret?
Will have to have a listen (not that my old ears are any better than anyone else's)
On Planet Earth (album) I remember reading that W&L were never in the same studio as Prince. He sent them files/tapes and they added their bits. He gave them free reign to just add what they thought was right. 'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything. |
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Reply #14 posted 10/31/16 6:38am
leecaldon
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IstenSzek said:
dbpdexter said:
Most likely it's Rhonda because it sounds like her talking on the black,white,straight,gay breakdown or it could be both Rhonda and Candy. I don't know how you could think it's W&L. Any Prince fan would know their voices without a doubt.
first, the spoken vocals on the breakdown are different in tone and timbre from the ones that are on the background singing vocals.
second, see the above post, W&L were around between '04 and '07 and they might have worked on more songs with prince than what we know now.
but, after reading the bolded part, i guess i'm not a good fan i've only been around since 1988, for every single scrap of music prince released either in stores or online.
but i guess you're right, if i'm a prince fan i would know their voices. so i'm not a fan
I thought it was common knowledge that Wendy was involved in this track - but the only things I can find written about it are from you, IstenSzek, from 2004 and me from 2007! [Edited 10/31/16 12:35pm] |
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Reply #15 posted 10/31/16 9:39am
IstenSzek |
leecaldon said:
IstenSzek said:
first, the spoken vocals on the breakdown are different in tone and timbre from the ones that are on the background singing vocals.
second, see the above post, W&L were around between '04 and '07 and they might have worked on more songs with prince than what we know now.
but, after reading the bolded part, i guess i'm not a good fan i've only been around since 1988, for every single scrap of music prince released either in stores or online.
but i guess you're right, if i'm a prince fan i would know their voices. so i'm not a fan
I thought it was common knowledge that Wendy was involved in this track - but the only things I can find written about it are you from you, IstenSzek, from 2004 and me from 2007!
i've just looked this up and i'm going jeez, that was a long time ago.
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