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JUDGE TOSSES OUT PRINCE CLAIM | |
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well...he's not his blood brother. RIP Prince I will forever  and miss U | |
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Oh i know.I'm wondering if the other sibs knew this years ago | |
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Im sure they did RIP Prince I will forever and miss U | |
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Gosh what a mess. I wonder if the rest of the family knew and/or how long they've known?? P even grew up with Duane they went to high school together and Duane worked for him for years. I guess that doesn't change biology, but why was John Nelson his father of record I wonder? He was married to Prince's mom at the time Duane was born to another woman. Weird. I'm sure the answer is complicated. And I didn't know til I read that article that all the siblings named as heirs are at least half if not a full sibling. Earlier it was stated that there were some step siblings too that would qualify as heirs but according to this article no step siblings are included in the list. Like I said what a mess to sort out. I'm glad it sounds like that part is now over or almost over and that they were able to rule some out. It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN | |
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The family knew he was not related because he was not listed as a heir in John L. Nelson estate and Prince was the executor of his Dad's estate. Duane was born to John while he was married to Prince's mom Mattie and John went back to his first wife Vivanne after his divorce to Mattie.
He took Duane in and treated him like a son but never adopted him so he is daughter is not able to obtain any inheirtence.
I believe some of this has to do with Duane behaivor later in life when he started attacking people and Prince got a restraining order against him.
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. This is great news - glad the judge did the right thing. |
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laurarichardson said:
The family knew he was not related because he was not listed as a heir in John L. Nelson estate and Prince was the executor of his Dad's estate. Duane was born to John while he was married to Prince's mom Mattie and John went back to his first wife Vivanne after his divorce to Mattie.
He took Duane in and treated him like a son but never adopted him so he is daughter is not able to obtain any inheirtence.
I believe some of this has to do with Duane behaivor later in life when he started attacking people and Prince got a restraining order against him.
How could Duane "be born to John" if he wasn't John's child and John wasn't even married to his mother at the time of his birth? So was Duane's last name Nelson from birth. If so, why? Or did John just hand out his name to women and/or their children to use in these situations? It's still a strange arrangement I think. It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN | |
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sonshine said: laurarichardson said:
The family knew he was not related because he was not listed as a heir in John L. Nelson estate and Prince was the executor of his Dad's estate. Duane was born to John while he was married to Prince's mom Mattie and John went back to his first wife Vivanne after his divorce to Mattie.
He took Duane in and treated him like a son but never adopted him so he is daughter is not able to obtain any inheirtence.
I believe some of this has to do with Duane behaivor later in life when he started attacking people and Prince got a restraining order against him.
How could Duane "be born to John" if he wasn't John's child and John wasn't even married to his mother at the time of his birth? So was Duane's last name Nelson from birth. If so, why? Or did John just hand out his name to women and/or their children to use in these situations? It's still a strange arrangement I think. ---I worded this wrong Duane was born to Vivanne John's ex-wife while John was married to Mattie. Vivanne passed away and Jonh took Duane in however it is confusing that Duane had the last name Nelson if Jonh never adopted him. I only thing I can think is Vivanne never changed her name back to her maiden name after the divorce and Duane was given the last name his mother was using when he was born. | |
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Re Duane's last name as Nelson: John L is on Duane's birth certificate as his father, so that's why. Sounds like he probably never knew his real dad who was very briefly on the scene, so John L was only father he really had.
It's interesting to me that Brianna/VN didn't try for genetic testing just in case, but they must be absolutely sure John L wasn't Duane's biological father or surely they would have given it a try!
What seems clear is that John L and Vivian ( Duane's mum) had a stong connection all their lives. 19 years of marriage and 4 kids. Offering to put his name of Duane's birth certificate after they'd been divorced for a year. Taking Duane into his home after Vivian died. Plus John L dedicated his record to her memory in the '90s.
There's a draft will (unsigned) where he lists his children which includes Duane, which shows he regarded him as his son, however the reason he's listing his children is to declare none of them will receive any benefit from his estate, except P, who gets it all!
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If a woman has a baby by another man who is not the childs's father then the husband will be listed as the father. It was my understanding that John L and this lady were seperated at the time and the divorce was not final at the time of his birth. |
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Hi everyone, John L and Vivian's divorce was issued March '57. John married Mattie (P and Tyka's mother) Aug 57. Duane was born in aug '58. However now that I think of it, do you need the father to actually sign a birth certificate? If not, maybe Vivian could have just listed him anyway, given he was father of her other children? Maybe it was about respectability too, as she didnt want to list the actual father, given they weren't married and sounds like he was only briefly around. | |
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You can put anyone you want on the birth certificate as the baby daddy. | |
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
You can put anyone you want on the birth certificate as the baby daddy. Well that would explain it. | |
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Yes, thank you all for explaining the different scenarios which makes it easier to understand how Duane fit into the family. I'm glad John took the boy in like he did, poor kid. And for at least some amount of time he and p actually seemed to have a true familial brother relationship. Too bad things went sour between them it sounds like in later years. It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN | |
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This is for why I wasn't born like my brother handsome and tall. | |
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