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Reply #1021 posted 11/25/16 3:18pm
Reply #1022 posted 11/25/16 3:51pm
dance4me3121 |
I like the CD a lot but what the hell is "Gotta Stop Messin' About" doing on here?? If they wanted a b side on here they should've included "17 Days" or "She's always in my Hair" |
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Reply #1023 posted 11/25/16 4:03pm
TrivialPursuit
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sexton said:
I believe I have the edit version of "Girls And Boys" as a bonus track on the Peach CD single. Some other edit versions like ones of "Batdance" and "Glam Slam" were also released on CD as singles, but not on any album, you're right about that.
Yeah, "Peach" was a 2-part EP really of spill-over songs. And you spotted what I did, in that "Girls and Boys" edit was released on the Peach EP (disk 2). The times are off by 1 second, but of course it's the same edit.
I kind of thought "Glam Slam" might have been out there, too. "Batdance" had to exist somewhere in the form of an edit, because I saw the video with that edit in it (cutting out the second solo), and the edit was played on radio a lot. Not that either of those are indicative of it existing on CD, but it's probable.
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Reply #1024 posted 11/25/16 6:25pm
Kobe |
Gotta Stop (Messin' About) was released as a single in the UK in 1981 so it's an A-side
dance4me3121 said:
I like the CD a lot but what the hell is "Gotta Stop Messin' About" doing on here?? If they wanted a b side on here they should've included "17 Days" or "She's always in my Hair"
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Reply #1025 posted 11/25/16 7:45pm
dance4me3121 |
Kobe said: Gotta Stop (Messin' About) was released as a single in the UK in 1981 so it's an A-side
dance4me3121 said:
I like the CD a lot but what the hell is "Gotta Stop Messin' About" doing on here?? If they wanted a b side on here they should've included "17 Days" or "She's always in my Hair"
[Edited 11/25/16 18:26pm]
Really?? I thought it was a b side cuz its on the b sides disc of the " the hits/besides" CD.I was just saying the song isn't that great when they could've added 17 days.Thanks for the info though . [Edited 11/25/16 19:47pm] |
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Reply #1026 posted 11/25/16 8:18pm
djThunderfunk
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dance4me3121 said:
Kobe said:
Gotta Stop (Messin' About) was released as a single in the UK in 1981 so it's an A-side
[Edited 11/25/16 18:26pm]
Really?? I thought it was a b side cuz its on the b sides disc of the " the hits/besides" CD.I was just saying the song isn't that great when they could've added 17 days.Thanks for the info though . [Edited 11/25/16 19:47pm]
B-Side in the U.S., A-Side in the U.K.
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Reply #1027 posted 11/25/16 9:27pm
Adorecream |
Bought it today, pleased it was so cheap at $19.95 NZ which is $13.95 US and £11 UK.
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Cardboard package again? Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name |
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Reply #1028 posted 11/25/16 10:41pm
udo |
Adorecream said:
Cardboard package again?
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Perhaps it is cheaper than a standard 'jewel box' type of package.
(which is more easily replacable when damaged or worn) Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. |
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Reply #1029 posted 11/26/16 4:32am
Reply #1030 posted 11/26/16 4:45am
udo |
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. |
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Reply #1031 posted 11/26/16 5:38am
MIRvmn |
udo said:
Adorecream said:
Cardboard package again?
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Perhaps it is cheaper than a standard 'jewel box' type of package.
(which is more easily replacable when damaged or worn)
Apparently there is a jewel case version, I saw it on Facebook earlier Welcome 2 The Dawn |
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Reply #1032 posted 11/26/16 9:32am
oliviacamron |
Send all your Moonbeam Levels to me. I will give you my email address I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R. |
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Reply #1033 posted 11/26/16 9:57am
TrivialPursuit
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udo said:
Adorecream said:
Cardboard package again?
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Perhaps it is cheaper than a standard 'jewel box' type of package.
(which is more easily replacable when damaged or worn)
It's not a "cardboard package". It's a digipak. It is cheaper, as Udo stated, and is also enviro-friendly. Some record companies are using 100% post-consumer waste to manufacture digipaks, which is awesome. When they have the built-in plastic tray, they're often made from recycled water bottles. The rest is made from sugarcane, egg cartons, etc. If anything, it's heavy cardstock, not cardboard, IMO, although sometimes there's a fine line.
All of Prince's records since 2001 have been digipaks.
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Reply #1034 posted 11/26/16 10:10am
djThunderfunk
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TrivialPursuit said:
udo said:
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Perhaps it is cheaper than a standard 'jewel box' type of package.
(which is more easily replacable when damaged or worn)
It's not a "cardboard package". It's a digipak. It is cheaper, as Udo stated, and is also enviro-friendly. Some record companies are using 100% post-consumer waste to manufacture digipaks, which is awesome. When they have the built-in plastic tray, they're often made from recycled water bottles. The rest is made from sugarcane, egg cartons, etc. If anything, it's heavy cardstock, not cardboard, IMO, although sometimes there's a fine line.
All of Prince's records since 2001 have been digipaks.
Most, yes, but not all: Ultimate, HitNRun Phase 1 & 2 were all released in jewel boxes.
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Reply #1035 posted 11/26/16 11:14am
KaresB |
TrivialPursuit said:
udo said:
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Perhaps it is cheaper than a standard 'jewel box' type of package.
(which is more easily replacable when damaged or worn)
It's not a "cardboard package". It's a digipak. It is cheaper, as Udo stated, and is also enviro-friendly. Some record companies are using 100% post-consumer waste to manufacture digipaks, which is awesome. When they have the built-in plastic tray, they're often made from recycled water bottles. The rest is made from sugarcane, egg cartons, etc. If anything, it's heavy cardstock, not cardboard, IMO, although sometimes there's a fine line.
All of Prince's records since 2001 have been digipaks.
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No, this is not Digipak. It is the cheapest excuse for CD packaging. Digipaks have either plastic or paper trays that hold the discs in place.
These cheap cardboard sleeves offer no protection for the discs at all – record companies using them should at least have the decency to put the discs into antistatic inner sleeves to avoid scratching.
Also, it doesn't properly hold its shape. Very cheap and poor packaging.
It's a shame Warners is showing little respect for Prince by putting out his albums (AOA, PE, 4E) in this form.
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Reply #1036 posted 11/26/16 1:45pm
Adorecream |
KaresB said:
TrivialPursuit said:
It's not a "cardboard package". It's a digipak. It is cheaper, as Udo stated, and is also enviro-friendly. Some record companies are using 100% post-consumer waste to manufacture digipaks, which is awesome. When they have the built-in plastic tray, they're often made from recycled water bottles. The rest is made from sugarcane, egg cartons, etc. If anything, it's heavy cardstock, not cardboard, IMO, although sometimes there's a fine line.
All of Prince's records since 2001 have been digipaks.
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No, this is not Digipak. It is the cheapest excuse for CD packaging. Digipaks have either plastic or paper trays that hold the discs in place.
These cheap cardboard sleeves offer no protection for the discs at all – record companies using them should at least have the decency to put the discs into antistatic inner sleeves to avoid scratching.
Also, it doesn't properly hold its shape. Very cheap and poor packaging.
It's a shame Warners is showing little respect for Prince by putting out his albums (AOA, PE, 4E) in this form.
[Edited 11/26/16 11:16am]
Thank you!
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I knew what they were, but these digiaks look like lower quality card than the albums from TRC to Lotusflow3r. 20 Ten is on some really nasty cheap cardboard they used for CD singles back in the day. This thing smells cheep and nasty and I know that this cardboard will wear quickly, just as well I will hardly ever use it, Burn the cd and put it on my shelf.
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I am not familiar with the term "Jewel Case" it is not used in my country. I am assuming it is a CD case that is slightly larger than the CD.
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Overall I am pretty disappointed with the 4ever album, the photos are more from the 1993 Hits out shoot and the booklet is just a list of dates. Overall I would give this a 2/10 for marketing and style. Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name |
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Reply #1037 posted 11/26/16 3:02pm
skipthecharade s |
I bought 4Ever together with 2 other two-disc Greatest Hits, and yes: 4Ever has the worst packaging.
Bowie's Legacy is also in cardboard but slightly better with plastic trays. The sleeve doesn't look very strong as well though.
Placebo's 20 years has a really nice package, it's kind of like a book and feels solid and luxury.
This is how WB should have released 4Ever. |
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Reply #1038 posted 11/26/16 3:05pm
eyewishuheaven
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$14.99 at HMV Toronto. Bought two!
At that price, I'm not bothered if the packaging is a little bit cheap. Keep those costs down, and spend the BIG money on deluxe reissues! PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman! |
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Reply #1039 posted 11/26/16 3:10pm
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KaresB said:
It's a shame Warners is showing little respect for Prince by putting out his albums (AOA, PE, 4E) in this form.
Yeah, that's it. As if Prince had no say so. It's just WB being disrespectful by distributing in a fucking digipak.
Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. |
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Reply #1040 posted 11/26/16 3:40pm
KaresB |
TrivialPursuit said:
KaresB said:
It's a shame Warners is showing little respect for Prince by putting out his albums (AOA, PE, 4E) in this form.
Yeah, that's it. As if Prince had no say so. It's just WB being disrespectful by distributing in a fucking digipak.
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As pointed out before, this is NOT a Digipak.
Prince obviously supplied the artwork for at least AOA and PE for Warners, but that doesn't necessarily mean he wanted to have a say in which particular cardboard sleeve version will be used for the releases. Maybe he has made the decision himself – but even in that case WB could've advised him to at least use a Digipak, which is similar looking but more professional, and for which the artwork would've been easily adoptable.
Anyway, in the case of '4Ever' Warners obviously had a choice yet they opted to spend as little as possible. |
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Reply #1041 posted 11/26/16 4:22pm
MidniteMagnet |
This collection sucks. The volumes aren't even normalized. Play MNIP and then play G&B. Not even close in volume!!! I'm not going to adjust my volume for every track. "Keep in mind that I'm an artist...and I'm sensitive about my shit."--E. Badu |
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Reply #1042 posted 11/26/16 4:55pm
cloveringold85 |
It's a good song, but the lyrics are so sad.
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"Please send all your moonbeam levels to me/ I’m looking for a better place to die."
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Reply #1043 posted 11/26/16 5:00pm
jtfolden |
Is there a listing somewhere that states eactly where each track originates from (in other words, this came from this single edit, that came from that album, etc...)?
Thanks!
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Reply #1044 posted 11/27/16 12:42am
Adorecream |
Then again, listening to the rest is good, the sound on it is really good and much better than I expect, plus its perfect for playing Prince at parties, driving music and when you only want your Prince in small doses. Some days I am just not into listening to 20 minute long xtended jams and alternative mixes of Wonderful ass. Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name |
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Reply #1045 posted 11/27/16 9:40am
thx185 |
KaresB said:
As pointed out by others already, 'Moonbeam Levels' definitely wasn't sourced from the 1st gen master and that's outrageous.
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Reply #1046 posted 11/27/16 10:54am
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KaresB said:
Anyway, in the case of '4Ever' Warners obviously had a choice yet they opted to spend as little as possible.
There's no evidence to this, whatsoever. It's 100% conjecture.
Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. |
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Reply #1047 posted 11/27/16 1:22pm
thebiscuit |
It might not be perfect quality but this version of Moonbeam Levels is the best I've heard. And it's a revelation. What a beautiful song. Raw and nuanced. And a bittersweet reminder of why I fell in love with Prince's music all those years ago. I can't wait for the PR Deluxe version. Hoping for pristine quality. |
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Reply #1048 posted 11/27/16 2:17pm
jaawwnn |
Sloppy release. Mountains is from the album, not the single. You can tell because it cuts short just before it fades out. They managed to get the right version of it for the Peach single in 1993 but not here . Let's Work doesn't fade out, which the single does, I don't know what version it is God knows what they used for the sources across the board. Doesn't bode well for future releases.
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Reply #1049 posted 11/27/16 2:19pm
Kobe |
Wait... Stop the press Who is that? Digipac... Digipac... Good luck with the PR deluxe |
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