Asenath0607 said:

CAL3 said:

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<p>That kind of thinking is illogical.

Your opinion...what's the saying about *@$holes and opinions? Anyway, that and a $1.00 can get you a cup of coffee at some McDonald's....

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No, not opinion. Your line of thinking is, in fact, illogical in the face of the actual facts surrounding Prince's death.

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EDIT: And also illogical when applied to any individual's death.

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There are two things that stand out for me. 1. He was left alone by his caring physician. We can blame his "inner circle" for leaving him alone, but I'm not sure that is fair. His doctor should have never left him alone. 2. He died hours before help was on the way. The california doctor was on a "life saving mission" and it really hurts that he didn't get there in time.

petalthecat said:

Genesia said:

I think it's just as likely he would have been in that elevator a couple of weeks sooner.

I agree. It depends which way you want to look at it. I think he announced the shows as a distraction to his private problems. Maybe he thought a distraction would help him come off whatever he was taking. I read an interview recently(I think from 2014?) where he was talking about the natural high he gets on stage and it wasn't til he was in the car after the show that he realised his legs hurt.

It's like when people ask me how I can still act if I'm sick. (I've gone onstage with a fever before - and acted with a cough drop tucked inside my cheek.) I always tell them, "I may be sick, but my character isn't."

I am not unique in that regard. During the last play I did, another actress (sick as a dog that night) came offstage, went straight into the restroom to throw up, swished some mouthwash, and went back onstage again. She skipped the curtain call, but up to that point, no one in the audience would have known she was sick.

You find a way to "use" whatever is ailing you. You might collapse afterward, but the show must go on.

I think about him everyday. I live in the Atlanta area and wish I could have seen him in April.

CAL3 said:

tomcooper2323 said:

Yes seeing those last shows are both a curse and a blessing, but made Prince's passing so much more difficult. I hadn't seen him live in probably 10+ years and really felt like I reconnected to him and his music that night and was on a major high for days afterwards and then of course, the emotions swung about as far as they could in the opposite direction. I still can't really process those shows and what they should mean to me...maybe I'll figure it out eventually or maybe there is just no answer that makes sense.

Yes this is how I feel too, I saw him in Sydney in February at the Opera House - and I was on such high it was amazing - and I too am now trying to reconcile my own feelings and still yet to open that Piano & Mic tour book I brought from Electric Fetus only a day before he left us all behind .....

Genesia said:

petalthecat said:

Genesia said: I agree. It depends which way you want to look at it. I think he announced the shows as a distraction to his private problems. Maybe he thought a distraction would help him come off whatever he was taking. I read an interview recently(I think from 2014?) where he was talking about the natural high he gets on stage and it wasn't til he was in the car after the show that he realised his legs hurt.

It's like when people ask me how I can still act if I'm sick. (I've gone onstage with a fever before - and acted with a cough drop tucked inside my cheek.) I always tell them, "I may be sick, but my character isn't."

I am not unique in that regard. During the last play I did, another actress (sick as a dog that night) came offstage, went straight into the restroom to throw up, swished some mouthwash, and went back onstage again. She skipped the curtain call, but up to that point, no one in the audience would have known she was sick.

You find a way to "use" whatever is ailing you. You might collapse afterward, but the show must go on.

i remember billy crystal said that he had a horrible fever when he hosted the oscars and got rave reviews, he also said that he was so relaxed that it made everything flow better. Singing is different, if you're voice is affected by whatever an ailment is, forget about it, your voice is just a voice, not something you can will better.

No he was still taking drugs so even without the shows he would have still od'd. He had an addiction problem that got the best of him like it often does to the best of us

tomcooper2323 said:

'If not for the Atlanta shows, would Prince still be here?'

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His location did not influence his problem.

His problem went with him as he moved around.

Atlanta was not at fault.

Prince was.

You play with pills knowing the fatal risk then nothing can be blamed cept him. If hip issues were that bad he wouldnt be walking n touring hed a been wheel chair bound so what is it we dont know .. he like getting high? something else we dont know ? what was the real deal w him

stop pushing the race stuff, he didn't.

Some folks are trying so hard to force it where he really didn't, its just not working.

PeteSilas said:

it all depends on perspective, and by any perspective Prince's death is a huge loss. But my first thoughts were how he completed his circle, what better place than Atlanta, Black American capitol of the usa, for him to say goodbye? Prince was not always free from racial ambivalence and he became more and more unambiguously black, the afro, some of the songs like Black Muse and the Atlanta finale, demonstrating a wonderful rapport with his own, it's a fitting if not a happy ending.

Jon1967 said:

You play with pills knowing the fatal risk then nothing can be blamed cept him. If hip issues were that bad he wouldnt be walking n touring hed a been wheel chair bound so what is it we dont know .. he like getting high? something else we dont know ? what was the real deal w him

we don't know, last night i watched some segments on nfl players in retirement, it was pretty pathetic. one guy was homeless, other guys had severe problems from all the concussions, another almost died from his kidneys shutting down. In some ways, i feel they know the risks, in others, they are lied to too and taken advantage of.

A few serious injuries and surplus cash seems to set a guy up for addiction. One guy was having a knee surgery and said it felt like his knees were getting hit everytime his heart beat. So whether it was pain that got Prince or some other ailment, it must have been pretty serious. I think Prince would have been aware and smart enough to deal with the problem before it got as bad as it did. gonna take time to find out what happened.

StopIt said:

stop pushing the race stuff, he didn't.

Some folks are trying so hard to force it where he really didn't, its just not working.

PeteSilas said:

it all depends on perspective, and by any perspective Prince's death is a huge loss. But my first thoughts were how he completed his circle, what better place than Atlanta, Black American capitol of the usa, for him to say goodbye? Prince was not always free from racial ambivalence and he became more and more unambiguously black, the afro, some of the songs like Black Muse and the Atlanta finale, demonstrating a wonderful rapport with his own, it's a fitting if not a happy ending.

Prince did plenty of pushing himself, Baltimore, Black Muse, things he's said in interviews. It's only his white fans that want to pretend that the utopia prince suggested when he was young was what he believed in all his life, it wasn't. We all go through phases, prince said once that he wanted to mark any box asking race as human, in his later years he was adamantly black.

Jon1967 said:

You play with pills knowing the fatal risk then nothing can be blamed cept him. If hip issues were that bad he wouldnt be walking n touring hed a been wheel chair bound so what is it we dont know .. he like getting high? something else we dont know ? what was the real deal w him

You don't know how much pain Prince felt. He was not the type of person to start popping pills for the hell of it. It's reasonable to consider that he began taking stuff for pain and built-up more and more tolerance (and dependence) to medication, while simultaneously, what pain he had continued to increase.

When Prince was performing, adrenaline could certainly help him push through. A solid theory is that once the concert was over, then he'd feel pain kicking in again. That's probably a reason why Prince started performing 2 shows in one night. That way (with his adrenaline still going) Prince could complete a couple of shows.... rather than dealing with pain (while trying to perform a 2nd show) the following day.

tomcooper2323 said:

I went to see the shows in Atlanta and I feel guilty about it sometimes, because clearly he wasn't feeling good and took some drugs to get "up" for the show and to give the thousands of people there and even more special and magical performance. He OD'd on these drugs a couple of hours after the show and that just seemed to lead to the end, a week later.

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I know he always wanted to give an amazing performance and I bet he took the painkillers to help him do that, in addition to dealing with hip or leg pain. I know can't change the past, but I just wish he would have held off on those ATL shows. But he was always moving so quickly and didn't want to slow down for anything. :-/

I believe he gave us all he had to the end of his life, I wish he had put self first before his fans and taken care of his self. I mss Prince soo much , I cry when I hear certain songs , Lord only knew what was going on with his pian.

Bummed out the city I live in was rumored to be one of his next stops... almost went down to Atlanta and now I wish I had've.

Good thing I flew to Anaheim for the Grove shows in 2013.

Since we are going to die, if it weren't Atlanta, Grim Reaper would come after Prince in another way.

tish9311 said:

tigerlilyluv said:

tish9311 said:

Let's not go down this road. Don't feel guilty about the Atlanta shows, cherish the moments and the memories.

I agree. Even his friends couldn't help. No point in fans feeling guilty. Don't know what others feel about God but I feel it was just time. Nothing, I think, would have changed it.

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Lots of things could have changed it. To say otherwise is just another form of denial really. "It was just time"?

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No - unfortunately Prince's death was not from natural causes. It was an unnatural death. There were ways it could have been prevented (not playing in Atlanta of course is not one of them, but still).

Jon1967 said: